Big Plays, Bigger Heart: Dating with a 6’6” Ex-NFL Pro

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Oh my God, I just totally got catfished.

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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.

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Welcome to the Meat Market.

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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is Zach.

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Welcome, thanks for being here.

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Thanks for having me.

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Great to be here.

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So you were an NFL player and you won a Super Bowl.

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Congrats.

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How did that?

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feel that must have been exhilarating.

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Yeah, it was a great year.

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It was my rookie year with the New England Patriots.

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It was an unbelievable time and a year I'll never forget One for the books for sure.

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Wow, you played for the Patriots.

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That's amazing.

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Did you play with Tom Brady?

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Of course, that's my quarterback.

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Why Forever the GOAT.

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He was my high school crush.

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Really I had a poster of him in my locker.

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Really High school From Sports Illustrated.

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That's awesome.

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He's a great guy, great guy.

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You know who my crush was?

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Young Tom Brady was fine, he was good looking.

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Yeah, yeah, he was good, he was cute.

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So how did you get into football, had you been playing since you were a child?

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No, I actually started my freshman year of high school, so it was just a way to just have some extracurricular activities.

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I didn't play it growing up, so when I started at 15, I was just completely brand new to it, and then I just so happened to be good at it Over time as well, and did you start in the NFL with the Patriots?

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Yeah, so I got drafted in 2014 out of Concordia St Paul First play in school history to do it, and then made stops with several other teams and ended my career out here with the Arizona Cardinals.

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You played with the Cardinals oh nice who was?

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The quarterback when you were with the.

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Cardinals Josh Rosen, so that was his first year as well.

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Then next year they got Kyler Murray.

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Nice.

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So how was dating?

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Being an NFL player, did you have women just throw themselves at you all the time?

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Oh man, you had to like swap them away.

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I mean, if we're being honest, yeah, I mean, that's just what comes with the life as a professional athlete.

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You're going to have, you know, women flocking themselves to you, but, um, in my case, you know, you just gotta have, you know, uh, you gotta have a sense of what to look for right, because if you can be involved with the wrong person, then your entire career can be messed up.

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So we've seen it time and time again can you pick them out pretty easily I can like I've never been in my swiss six pro year career.

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I've never had any instances with, like you know, some getting into the headlines or being exposed for something, or you know a woman coming out and saying I did something to her, so I got that sense.

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But other guys, I guess they don't.

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I don't know.

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When you were dating, was it?

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Were you worried about the intentions of the women?

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Yeah, I got to be honest.

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Yes, because you know at that point, you know, as pro athletes, you've got so much to lose, right, and there's millions of dollars on the table, so you've got to really screen who you're putting around you.

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But I'm not going to lie.

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I was fine being a bachelor and being single my years because I was focused on the game, so I really wasn't too much into trying to find a date or a woman.

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I was just going to ask that.

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If you were in a relationship while you were playing or if you were single for your career?

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No, were in a relationship while you were playing, or if you were single.

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No, my career I was single.

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I mean, I would have loved to been a relationship prior, but you know it just didn't happen.

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It's probably better that way.

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Yeah, have you seen relationships ruined because of the lifestyle of?

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unfortunately, yes, I mean, there's good and there's bad.

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I've seen teammates, you know they had, you know, really rocky relationships with their women, but I've seen, you know, great marriages last.

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So, you know, I think it's like case to case, yeah, yeah and did women find it hard to trust you because there are rumors that nfl players cheat when they're on the road.

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Don't they have that reputation?

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Yeah, I mean every athlete, because we've talked about this before.

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Like the um, what's his name?

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Like the patrick mahomes rumors here at bottle or whatever it was like when he's supposedly this great husband and great guy and blah blah blah.

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So it's like rumors, there's always rumors right.

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So did women find it hard to trust you.

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Did you ever have that issue?

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I don't think I've had that issue.

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Like I said, I've seen it in other situations but my whole thing I don't mean to sound corny or anything but my whole philosophy is if I'm corny or anything, but my whole philosophy is if I'm with somebody, I'm with them, right?

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I believe life is much more simple when you got one woman to satisfy.

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So if you're in a committed relationship, right, it's best if you just stick with that person.

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You don't want to become like a you know, a lust robot or whatever they call it, Because then it's going to bring about a whole other issues.

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Right, and trying like, if you're a guy that, or an athlete, pro athlete wants to date multiple women, you gotta be.

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You gotta have the knowledge to know that.

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You gotta deal with a lot of different personalities and sometimes that can be hard to juggle.

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So it's one woman is exhausting enough.

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I can't imagine trying to juggle multiple and I feel like some people like the drama right.

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So, like the guys who maybe like like the drama, like the sort of toxic relationships or the attention, they probably lean more towards the let me, date multiple women and have women in multiple cities.

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I've seen instances of that.

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But you know, like I said for myself, I don't like being toxic, I don't like all the chaos, right.

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So I'm a peaceful, private, quiet person.

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But, like you said, other guys, they get the thrill out of that.

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I can't understand why, but maybe that's just what works for them.

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Well, you sound like a keeper.

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You sound like a good one.

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So where did you meet people when you were playing in the NFL, Like at clubs, bars?

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Where did you meet women?

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Yeah, primarily bars, clubs.

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That was like my scene back then, not so much now.

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I don't drink.

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I haven't drank in almost two years bars or clubs anymore, but that's primarily where I meet women, so did they approach you?

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Did you approach them?

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99% of the time I'm approaching women because I'm a big guy.

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For those that don't know, I'm 6'6", very muscular man, so they can get intimidated approaching me.

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I've had some instances where that has happened, but 99% of the time I'm approaching women.

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What was your line?

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Oh man, Did you have a line?

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He's 6'6".

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He doesn't need a line.

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That's so true.

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He does not need a line.

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Yeah, it wasn't really a line, it was just it wasn't.

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You know, you just got to fill out the vibe Like maybe look at what she's drinking, what she's wearing, compliment her, offer another drink.

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Just start a conversation on this situation.

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I'm such a gentleman I feel like too.

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Did you ever get vibes from women who were more forward in approaching you that they were the ones that maybe didn't have great intentions?

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Like they could see, you were someone they wanted to get in on?

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The lifestyle, or the money or the you know, whatever it was.

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Well, yeah, I have a keen eye for that as well, so for that as well.

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So I can I can pretty much sense bad intentions um so when I get those red flags I kind of just move away.

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I don't even entertain it.

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Yeah, is it hard dating as a public figure?

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Do you find it tough?

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no, not really, because you, you can meet women that have never watched sports and never played or never watched football, so they have no idea who you are.

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You know, they just see, maybe like a tall person, where, in my case.

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So, um, I like meeting women like that who don't know the sport, never seen football, so it's not hard, right, but um, it can be, depending on where you're at.

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Like, if you're like a sports club, maybe they recognize you.

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I don't know, but for me it isn't, it isn't difficult we read an interesting fact that nfl players spend more money at the club than any other athlete.

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Have you heard this?

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Do you know why?

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Do I know why they spend it?

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Yeah, they spend more money NFL players than any other athlete at the bar at the club's VIP service, because they wear helmets when they play so people don't recognize them.

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Ah, yeah, so they feel like they have to be extra flashy to kind of get the attention.

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I done been in Miami where I seen a couple of bottle wars.

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So, yeah, great point, that's great.

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Yeah, guys have them.

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But I'm cool on that.

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So your last girlfriend?

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How long ago was that?

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Oh, this is like 2022.

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Okay, and how did you guys meet?

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So she used to be my, so I have dreadlocks, so she used to be my loctician, so she used to do my hair.

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So that's really how we met.

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Got you, so very natural organic.

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Yep, yep.

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Are you on the dating apps?

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No, no, no, I don't know.

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I get paranoia being on those apps Just because maybe somebody might recognize me.

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Then they try to put me on a shade room.

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Or you know, they got this new tea app and all that stuff.

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Oh my God right.

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I'm trying to stay away from these apps for sure, it's kind of scary that and then that Facebook.

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Yeah, they got a lot of those dating.

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Are we dating the same guy, Phoenix type page.

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So I'm trying to stay clear away from all of that.

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Especially if you're when you're dating, you're talking to multiple people.

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We've talked about this before Right Before you're exclusive, you expect each other to be talking to multiple people and women will post on those pages.

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Just started talking with this guy yesterday.

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Is there any tea?

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It's like, why are you looking for tea?

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On a guy that you just started talking to yesterday.

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You're not exclusive.

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Like you know, it's crazy the culture that the internet has created, the dating apps and these Facebook groups.

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Yeah, it's ridiculous.

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That's why I said I'm trying to stay clear away from it.

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So, hopefully I can meet someone organically and not on the app.

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Have you been married before?

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No, never been married.

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But, you have kids.

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Yep two kids, two daughters.

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Okay, and do they live with you full-time?

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Do you split?

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time, part-time, split-time, yeah.

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How do you find dating with daughters?

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Well, my last relationship, you know, I had a.

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Well, she had a daughter as well.

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So it's not difficult for me to date with kids, primarily because I know I'm not and people get a misconception, right, if someone has kids, then you have to feel like a role, right, or like a step-parent role with me, like if I'm dating you, like you're here for me, I don't need you to be a step-mom, I don't need you, you know, to have that relationship.

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You know you need to be a positive influence, but I'm not looking for you to fill a void in my or fill a space in my kids' lives.

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They have that.

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They have a dad, they have a mom.

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So if I'm dating you, you're here for me.

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Are they protective over who you date?

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Do they kind of say I don't like her?

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They'll tell me.

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But you know I do my put the right people around me so they can be a positive influence on them.

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But yeah, I don't think I've brought a woman around them that they said they didn't like, because I know if I can tell if they'll like them before they meet them.

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Do you have a rule with how soon you introduce a woman to your kids?

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Yeah, it's got to be like a couple of months, like I don't know exactly how long, maybe like three months.

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I'd't know exactly how long, maybe like three months.

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I'd say that's three, four months around around that time.

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so and what does it take for a woman to land a guy like you?

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uh well, for me, physical health and mental health is huge.

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Where I go to therapy, I work out, I work on myself every day.

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So they have to have a foundation for physical health.

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I'm not saying you have to be a workout junkie, but you have to have some type of exercise routine because that's important for mental health as well.

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So their tag team partners I don't believe you can have one without the other scientifically proven.

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So she has to have a great head on her shoulders, right, great routine, purpose and I would say, just like a good career, right.

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I like people that have goals, that have aspirations, so we can feed that energy off each other.

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So, yeah, those are big for me.

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And you do training right.

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Yep so now, that's sort of your passion your job.

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Yep online men's health and fitness coaching Okay.

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So yeah, you turn dad bods into father figures.

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I love that.

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That's my line tell us about that um.

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So, yeah, I got into that post-retirement right.

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So I retired in 2020 and then, through 2020, 2022, I went through a bad spell of depression, anxiety, ptsd, identity crisis, right.

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So just trying to figure out who I was past football, you know, the sport is over with, right?

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So now I got the next God willing, 40, 50 years to live.

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So now, what is my purpose?

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So, um, and I kind of dabbled into fitness while I was playing, so I kind of had that in my, in my back pocket.

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But during that time, during that two-year span from 2020 to 2022, I gained a lot of weight, right.

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I almost looked unrecognizable.

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So once I looked in the mirror, I was like I to get myself back in shape right now, talked about mental health and physical health, so I dedicated my time to get back in shape.

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I dropped 42 pounds in four months.

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Within that time, I also got ISSA certified to be a fitness coach.

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And then, once I went on that journey, I realized you know, this can really how this impacted me losing all this weight and getting my mind and body right.

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I know this can help other guys as well, so that's why I launched my business.

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That's amazing, thank you.

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Are you all online or do you do in-person stuff?

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Well, I do hybrid training, so I mean, obviously you have to be in Arizona, so I'll do in-person training, but it's very limited because my schedule is really full.

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So online coaching has really helped.

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You know me, uh allowed me to help guys from anywhere.

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I got clients all over the nation, even one in Canada and Australia, Right, so I'm able to do more.

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Right, You're only limited, a certain amount of hours in person.

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So and you only train men, or do do you have women clients too?

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Okay, so I do have a few women clients.

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I'm never so.

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The reason why I train men right and it's really age 30 through 45, middle-aged men because I can relate to them right, but I will never Turn around anybody that's serious about getting in shape or better in their health.

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So I do have a few women clients, but my niche or my market is really men.

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After this episode airs, he's going to have a huge in-route to female clients.

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I love it.

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Come get right.

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Because we've talked about that too in episodes with like, because we've talked about articles right of like the careers that are the top cheaters.

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Oh, wow, and so we always talk about, like personal trainers and women jealous of their boyfriends or husbands or whatever, who are personal trainers.

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And I've even had friends who are dating guys who are like I will not have my husband training women and it's like a source of tension in their relationships because the guys are like this is my job, you know I need to train who is paying me?

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but it's like, so there's, there's that little, so that's another reason why I wanted to move online, cause that eliminates that as well.

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That is true, that is true.

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But I've had instances where I train women, even online, and they may have a significant other that didn't like the fact that another man was training a girl.

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So I'm like let me just eliminate all these problems and just train men.

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Yeah, so we always hear horror stories of dating in Scottsdale.

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Have you dated Scottsdale girls?

00:14:13.575 --> 00:14:17.801
No, not really, Because I live in Goodyear, which is like way west, and I've heard those stories as well.

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You stay away.

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Fortunately, unfortunately, I have not dated a Scottsdale girl well, so you stay away, fortunately, unfortunately, I have not dated a scottsdale girl.

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Have you been cheated on?

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To my knowledge, no, but no, I don't know.

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I don't know what people do when they're not around me, but to my knowledge, no so what are you looking for?

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are you looking to get married?

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Are you looking to have more kids?

00:14:33.318 --> 00:14:35.282
uh, so that's a tough question.

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So married here's the thing about marriage.

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Um, I believe it's great, it's a great union between two people, but it's not something that I don't feel like.

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My life is incomplete without, like, if I never get married for the rest of my life, that's fine, right, because marriage is not for everybody.

00:14:51.024 --> 00:14:55.923
But if I get the opportunity to experience it, I would definitely go for it, right.

00:14:55.923 --> 00:14:57.595
But it's steps leading up to that, right.

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I gotta work on myself first, right, then I, then I got to vet, you know, a woman that fits what I'm looking for and a partner, and then we can take things from there.

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What are your deal breakers?

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I say bad habits, that's one Vaping.

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I do not like women that vape.

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And yeah, lack of physical health, right, a woman that don't exercise, that don't doesn't work on herself, it doesn't have any like goals or aspirations.

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Uh yeah, those are pretty much deal breakers.

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Have you had any disaster dates?

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I was just going to ask that.

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Do you have any crazy, crazy dating stories?

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Oh wow.

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Yes, I don't know if I'm allowed to say on camera.

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You don't have to say a name.

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Oh wow, She'll never know, they'll never know.

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Yeah, I've had instances where, you know, I've been on a date with a woman.

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She secretly invited out her friends, which is like all right, whatever.

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Like along to the date, yes, or just sit in a different part of the restaurant and watch no along to the date.

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Just sit in a different part of the restaurant and watch no along, so she showed up with her friends.

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Yeah, so everybody could get a free meal that is oh, are you kidding me?

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you think, that's why?

00:16:08.118 --> 00:16:10.003
I don't know about a free meal, but maybe she.

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Uh, I don't know, was this the first date it's more like a second date and she didn't tell you she was bringing her friends.

00:16:15.825 --> 00:16:20.602
But my whole thing is like I don't know maybe she wants like I don't know, I want to say security but making sure she's safe.

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I don't know.

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Maybe she wants like I don't know, I want to say security but making sure she's safe.

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I don't know, Whatever the case may be, but if a woman don't feel that safe around me, then we should just call this quits, right, Because I don't want any instances where you think I'm going to do something to you and then I get in trouble and, like I said, I'm trying to keep everything you know peaceful, private, quiet.

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Maybe, maybe she was intimidated.

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I dated a guy and on the first date he bought a male friend, and then the second date he bought the same male friend, like he never wanted to be alone with me.

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It was so weird.

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Why?

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I don't know why.

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Yeah, it's crazy.

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Maybe they're like insecure and they think they don't have much to talk about, so they need that security blanket of more people to.

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I don't know Like a moderator.

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Yeah, then you're on the date with the wrong person If you can't talk to the person that you're on a date with without having someone to coach your conversation.

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Are you religious?

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Do you go to church?

00:17:08.556 --> 00:17:09.259
I'm not religious.

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I'm spiritual.

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I do believe in the higher power, but I don't belong to any religion.

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So, if you don't mind me asking, why didn't it work out with your ex?

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To be honest.

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So, like I said, during that year, during that span of 2020 and 2022, right, I went through a lot of mental health issues, right.

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So I'm still trying to figure out myself post-football.

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And then 2022 happened and that's when we got in a relationship.

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So, in my opinion, I had a lot more work to do on myself before I got in a relationship, and that's me taking accountability, right, I believe she had something to do on her end.

00:17:41.785 --> 00:17:49.501
So, when you got two people who haven't did the work on themselves and then just get in a relationship, you know things tend to spiral out of control.

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You know, sooner rather than later, and then that's to me, that's what really happened.

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Like you start to.

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You know she's a great person.

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I don't ever want to badmouth any of my exes.

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You know they're great people, obviously, because you know I chose to be in a relationship with them and they also chose me as well.

00:18:05.388 --> 00:18:07.790
Um, but yeah, we had my opinion.

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We had a lot of work to do on each other before we should have even been in a relationship well, and if you're both in a sort of a bad space, you all you do is bring out the worst in each other right because neither one of you is in a good place.

00:18:19.124 --> 00:18:25.817
Yeah, was that your longest he was in a good place.

00:18:25.817 --> 00:18:26.721
Yeah, was that your longest relationship?

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No, uh, my longest relationship would technically be with my kid's mom, but that was, that was my like my high school sweetheart.

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So that was all through high school and then after that I had a girlfriend in college, like my senior year I believe that was probably the longest like a year well, post um high school.

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So, yeah, I've only had since high school, I've only had two serious relationships.

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So I've been single for, you know, majority of my adulthood would you say you're more of a relationship type?

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do you prefer being in a relationship?

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yeah, I gotta say, man, life is easy when you got one woman to satisfy.

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Like I can't juggle too many personalities because I get irritated super quick I was just gonna ask that, if you're quick to cut things off, yeah, and that's something I have to work on myself as well, because once somebody does something I don't like or triggering, I'm easy to cut them off instead of just maybe having a conversation with them or trying to work them through it or just having that conversation about it.

00:19:18.394 --> 00:19:21.224
So once you get the ick, you're done, you're cutting them off.

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But also to your point earlier, if someone hasn't done the work on themselves, you can have that conversation with them, but if they're not accepting of the constructive criticism and willing to, willing to work through it and actually change, then you're going to beat your head against the wall, you're not going to go anywhere, and so then you're better off cutting it off.

00:19:42.210 --> 00:19:42.431
Yeah.

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Anyways, you know what I mean.

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You sort of have to feel out if the person really has the emotional maturity to work through those issues, because a lot of people don't.

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Absolutely.

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Is the thing that I find in the single sort of like the single scene is there's not a lot of people that have the maturity to actually work through.

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Yeah and then you know you get to a point where you may meet someone.

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They've gone through several, you know they've been on, they've been in several relationships and they've been carrying that trauma to each relationship and it's been building up and building up and then you meet them and then you get dumped with all that.

00:20:18.307 --> 00:20:23.300
So, like I said, doing the work on yourself is super important for sure, what age range do you date like?

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describe your ideal partner uh, to be honest, how old are you?

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I'll be 35 next month, okay, yeah, so, to be honest, I'm really into older women, or older women really into me.

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So you like all the women yeah, I love all the women.

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Like I said they to me they're just more peaceful, like the young, the younger generation.

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No disrespect to them, but in this social media age it's like everything's got to be put on blast and social media and, yeah, it's just messy.

00:20:52.835 --> 00:20:55.044
And you seem to have a really calm energy about yourself.

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Yeah, I'm really zen.

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So, even though I'm from the city, from Chicago, I'm a city boy but I like to get out in nature and just be peaceful and calm and yeah, just really zen.

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So I go up to Sedona a lot.

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You know Slide Rock Park, it's beautiful just listening to the water, so I'm really zen, yeah what are your hobbies?

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What do you do in your free time?

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Besides working out, I game a little bit just to kind of take my mind off stuff and then mind off stuff and then, like I said, I just get out of nature, go up to sedona, the verado stairs.

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I just like to get out of nature and just see different stuff other than the cities and clubs and bars.

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I've been seeing it for a lot of portion of my life so I'm trying to, you know, see different stuff.

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I've been to colorado and hiked in the mountains when it's like snowy and stuff, so that was pretty cool to see how are you in a relationship?

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are you romantic?

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Are you?

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yeah, I like, I like doing exclusive stuff.

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So I'll always and I've been like this since high school I always try to find ways to like do different stuff, like, for um, for example, I believe, valentine's day with my ex uh, yeah, back in 2022.

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Um, I seen this.

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Like this little, it was like on tiktok.

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Like this little ad for like these, like explosion boxes, was like you open the box and like all these butterflies just explode out.

00:22:04.906 --> 00:22:06.759
Yeah, so I like that's pretty cool.

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And then you get to add like pictures of yourself, like really customizable.

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So, yeah, I like doing different stuff.

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Like that.

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I seen one where you get to make like a song or a mixtape for your partner.

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I mean, I'm single right now, but that's something that I would do.

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Oh, I love that I still have mixtape CDs from high school that guys made me.

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I swear I do.

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It's so funny, I don't have a.

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CD player, but I have these mixtape CDs.

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That's funny.

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That's good Old-fashioned.

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What would you say?

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Your love language is.

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I like all of it.

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I mean before, I'm not.

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It's only four, right?

00:22:43.817 --> 00:22:45.701
I don't know if there's more been added, but I think a good dose of everything for me.

00:22:45.701 --> 00:22:46.844
I like that answer, yeah, yeah.

00:22:46.844 --> 00:22:51.281
One last question before we move on do you have a crazy unique talent that not many people know about you.

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uh well, I just started development, developing it, so I know how to cha-cha I took.

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I took dance lessons at the Fred Astaire Studios out here in Glendale.

00:23:03.681 --> 00:23:06.502
Well, no, peoria, peoria, that's amazing.

00:23:06.502 --> 00:23:12.333
So that was like back in uh march and then I had my first dance competition in may.

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So yeah, I'll develop a skill to dance and do the cha-cha that's funny.

00:23:16.208 --> 00:23:18.535
I feel like football players are either one way or the other.

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They're either really good on their feet right with their footwork or they're really awkward they're just like you know what I mean.

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Depending on, depending on how they were so dance competition in may.

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How'd you do?

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uh, we came in sec.

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Mean, it was like a Dancing with the Stars type thing, but for that to be my first competition, it just came in second, you came second.

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Yeah, wow, that's amazing.

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Because I was the only male star.

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So how it was right.

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We worked with a Fred Astaire professional, so I was the only guy with a female partner, whereas all the rest of the professional were girls.

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No, were guys dancing with female like stars?

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So I was the only one that you know.

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You had the professional female.

00:24:01.124 --> 00:24:02.516
Yeah, you were the only one with a professional female.

00:24:02.516 --> 00:24:03.424
Everyone else had a professional female.

00:24:04.166 --> 00:24:08.217
So really, in dance or like the cha-cha right, the male leads.

00:24:08.217 --> 00:24:12.309
So when you got a male professional leading with a star, it looks better, right?

00:24:12.309 --> 00:24:14.333
Yeah, for sure, as opposed to me.

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I'm not a star, I mean I'm not a professional, right?

00:24:18.117 --> 00:24:18.898
So it looks different.

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But we did good.

00:24:19.619 --> 00:24:26.603
That's even more of an accomplishment, because you beat out all of the other professional males except for one.

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Basically it was fun.

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I got to unbutton my shirt, so I was in my magic mic mode.

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And a Super bowl champion, and now a dance champion.

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All right, this one.

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We only hang out after 10pm.

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Should I be flattered or furious?

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He's sweet, sexy and keeps me up all night, but I've never seen him in the daylight.

00:25:02.231 --> 00:25:07.088
Is this just a spicy situation or am I his vampire side chick?

00:25:07.088 --> 00:25:07.999
She?

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is his booty cool?

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I feel yeah Right If you don't want to do anything but be in the bedroom together.

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Yeah, yeah, next I would move on, have higher expectations, have more respect for yourself especially if you want a relationship, if you want a relationship with the person.

00:25:22.472 --> 00:25:25.729
If you just want to hook up, there's nothing wrong with that, like that.

00:25:25.729 --> 00:25:26.310
That's what it.

00:25:26.471 --> 00:25:31.528
Yeah, I mean I had I had a um not to get off the subject, but I had a take on that right.

00:25:31.528 --> 00:25:41.015
I don't see anything wrong with a woman who only wants to date a man for money, as long as they're up front with that, like, hey, this is how I move.

00:25:41.015 --> 00:25:48.711
Or on the opposite side, I don't think there's anything wrong with a man who only wants to date a woman and have sex with her, as long as he's up front about that.

00:25:49.045 --> 00:25:50.109
We talk about that all the time.

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Everything is fine, as long as you communicate it and you're open and honest and upfront and you don't keep them on a different page.

00:25:56.625 --> 00:26:05.451
That's the thing is, if one person is going this is a relationship, we're together, and the other person is like no, we're not, we're just sleeping together.

00:26:05.451 --> 00:26:07.372
It's like then you're on two different pages.

00:26:07.372 --> 00:26:09.092
That's where the problem is Absolutely.

00:26:13.785 --> 00:26:18.500
So now we're going to discuss this reddit thread worst dating advice you've ever received and everyone kind of chimed in the worst dating advice they've received.

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Have you ever received any terrible dating advice?

00:26:20.892 --> 00:26:22.194
terrible dating advice?

00:26:22.194 --> 00:26:23.459
No, I can't say I have.

00:26:23.459 --> 00:26:24.868
I've usually operated on my own.

00:26:24.909 --> 00:26:32.767
Of course I can't say I've had any terrible dating advice my mom used to always say never take a guy serious until you have a ring on your finger date around.

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You know, never commit, play hard to get, and I feel like a lot of guys don't like that.

00:26:38.057 --> 00:26:43.423
You know, if a guy finds out you're dating around and if you play hard to get, that's kind of juvenile right.

00:26:43.423 --> 00:26:47.333
Yeah, my mom was burned so she was a little she was jaded.

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I don't think I've ever gotten bad.

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I'm trying to think I don't think I've ever gotten bad.

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I'm trying to think I don't think I've ever gotten bad in a relationship.

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So these are real life ones.

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Good things come to those who wait.

00:26:56.330 --> 00:26:59.130
It's kind of true Like get off your ass and go and get it.

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Go for what you want.

00:27:00.492 --> 00:27:01.757
Yeah, you know, I believe that.

00:27:02.786 --> 00:27:08.106
Someone said women in clubs like it when men grab their hips while dancing and start dancing behind them.

00:27:08.106 --> 00:27:08.488
No, they.

00:27:08.488 --> 00:27:10.451
That is terrible advice.

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Does any woman like to be grabbed on the dance floor?

00:27:14.058 --> 00:27:16.714
No, no, no, no, no.

00:27:17.425 --> 00:27:19.554
The trick to attracting women is to be mean to them.

00:27:19.554 --> 00:27:21.871
I told her to fuck off and she got mad at that.

00:27:21.871 --> 00:27:23.395
Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, damn.

00:27:23.395 --> 00:27:25.471
But I don't think that the trick to attract.

00:27:25.471 --> 00:27:28.192
But you know what Some women like men that are dicks.

00:27:28.545 --> 00:27:41.320
Well, and there's, like there's something to be said about sarcastic banter and a little bit of the shit talk and giving each other a hard time or whatever like that.

00:27:42.027 --> 00:27:48.272
But to be mean, yeah that's kind of overboard Some women do like the bad boys and they do say that nice guys finish last.

00:27:48.272 --> 00:27:51.133
There's that saying for a reason I don't know.

00:27:51.133 --> 00:27:51.575
That's true.

00:27:52.406 --> 00:28:00.265
Buy her nice things to keep her happy, that's kind of bad in a relationship or just on a date oh, just says, this was bad dating advice.

00:28:00.325 --> 00:28:04.586
They've they received oh yeah, buy her nice things to keep her happy, but then she's always going to expect it, right?

00:28:04.586 --> 00:28:05.869
Yeah, that's true.

00:28:05.869 --> 00:28:13.371
Someone told me to cheat on my girlfriend so I can get as much kitty as I can while I'm young but still have the wife material locked down.

00:28:13.371 --> 00:28:15.454
But then what if she finds out?

00:28:15.454 --> 00:28:17.939
That's terrible advice what is that?

00:28:17.959 --> 00:28:22.683
expression fuck around and find out, like if you cheat, I felt you have to be willing to lose that relationship.

00:28:22.683 --> 00:28:25.009
Right, it's a numbers game.

00:28:25.009 --> 00:28:29.018
Just swipe right on everyone for better chances oh wow, what's swipe right?

00:28:29.018 --> 00:28:40.692
On the apps you know and you can just accept every woman agree to every woman and it's kind of true, guys do do that because don't they say, statistically men get such a small amount of dates, so why not just increase your odds?

00:28:40.873 --> 00:28:44.787
yeah, yeah, it makes sense, and swipe right on everybody stop trying.

00:28:44.787 --> 00:28:58.088
Love will find you when you stop trying I don't know if I agree with that I've also heard that when people stop looking so hard for it, it like the universe gives like, it like comes to them.

00:28:58.109 --> 00:28:59.792
There's some that happened to me.

00:28:59.792 --> 00:29:01.738
I kind of gave up on trying.

00:29:01.738 --> 00:29:10.799
That wasn't my priority, I was focusing on myself and I think maybe men can smell the desperation or they can sense that you're independent and you're not, you don't need that.

00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:13.298
So maybe that's attractive to them because I once I'd kind of stopped trying.

00:29:13.298 --> 00:29:13.636
That's when't need that.

00:29:13.636 --> 00:29:15.202
So maybe that's attractive to them Because I once I kind of stopped trying.

00:29:15.202 --> 00:29:15.590
That's when I met my husband.

00:29:15.590 --> 00:29:19.952
And maybe it's because they're like intrigued that you're not all over them trying so hard to find love.

00:29:19.952 --> 00:29:25.272
I don't know, and this is terrible advice, even if they're taken, hit on them anyways.

00:29:26.545 --> 00:29:28.007
I mean, that's work for some people.

00:29:28.007 --> 00:29:30.950
You'd be surprised it does.

00:29:31.951 --> 00:29:33.692
If you get pregnant, you can be together.

00:29:34.273 --> 00:29:35.815
Oh, that is terrible.

00:29:35.855 --> 00:29:41.561
Some women I've known women that have done that, like they want to be with a guy that doesn't want to be with them, so they intentionally get pregnant.

00:29:43.306 --> 00:29:44.047
That happened to my ex.

00:29:44.047 --> 00:29:52.400
So his second child, the mom, got pregnant on purpose because he didn't want to get married.

00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.488
Pregnant on purpose because he didn't want to get married.

00:29:56.488 --> 00:30:06.354
And so when the baby was like six months, she sat him down and was like by her first birthday, we need to be engaged, I need to have a ring on my finger and he looked at her and he said I he's, he goes.

00:30:06.454 --> 00:30:11.133
I told you from the beginning that's not in the cards and they split like it was done.

00:30:11.133 --> 00:30:15.464
And I'm like whatever made this woman think that having a baby?

00:30:16.026 --> 00:30:28.590
with a man who doesn't want to be with you is going to make him want to be with you and I feel like if he doesn't want to be with you before the kid, like after the kid, that's when the stress comes out and it really tests the relationship.

00:30:28.671 --> 00:30:32.249
So that's it's not gonna work damn, you're putting a lot of stress on that kid growing up, right, it's so true.

00:30:32.249 --> 00:30:33.272
Not fair looks don't matter, it's not going to work.

00:30:33.292 --> 00:30:35.481
Damn, you're putting a lot of stress on that kid growing up, right, it's so true that's the most important thing.

00:30:35.481 --> 00:30:36.244
Not fair Looks don't matter.

00:30:36.244 --> 00:30:38.269
It's all about confidence and personality.

00:30:38.871 --> 00:30:39.471
I disagree with this.

00:30:39.471 --> 00:30:41.718
I can kind of see that, because looks can change, right yeah.

00:30:42.345 --> 00:30:44.248
I feel like confidence can take someone from.

00:30:44.248 --> 00:30:49.994
Like I always say confidence can take, I'd go two to a ten Lindsay, maybe like a two to a seven, two to a six.

00:30:49.994 --> 00:30:56.087
Pete Davidson.

00:30:56.087 --> 00:31:02.153
He's not that physically good looking right, but he look at the women he gets Kim Kardashian, kaya Gerber.

00:31:02.153 --> 00:31:03.538
He gets some beautiful women.

00:31:03.538 --> 00:31:06.127
It's gotta be that he does, but he's still not a ten.

00:31:07.089 --> 00:31:16.088
I've also, I've also heard it's you know the size, oh too, that it's gotta be that it's gotta be something have you ever dated a woman that was very average looking?

00:31:16.108 --> 00:31:17.051
you weren't interested in her.

00:31:17.132 --> 00:31:31.691
Then you got to know her and she became more attractive to you average looking women yeah, you like average looking women yeah they're less of a problem I wouldn't say that, um, yeah, I met beautiful women that weren't problems and I met, you know, average looking women that were.

00:31:31.691 --> 00:31:34.198
So it kind of just depends for me.

00:31:34.439 --> 00:31:38.390
I know some men that don't like to date a beautiful woman because it's more stressful.

00:31:38.390 --> 00:31:40.936
They have to worry about cheating and it's and like fighting guys off.

00:31:40.957 --> 00:31:41.578
They're insecure.

00:31:41.578 --> 00:31:43.143
Exactly, it's more of a competition.

00:31:43.143 --> 00:31:43.724
Yeah, yeah.

00:31:46.708 --> 00:31:48.569
I just think at that point you just don.

00:31:48.569 --> 00:31:52.314
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, you got to pick an ugly girl for your wife.

00:31:52.314 --> 00:31:55.056
Oh stop, what song is that?

00:31:55.056 --> 00:31:56.397
No, it's from like the 50s.

00:31:56.397 --> 00:31:57.659
You don't know that song.

00:31:57.659 --> 00:32:00.721
It's literally about if you want to be happy, you got to admire an ugly woman.00:32:01.365 --> 00:32:02.348


It's an actual song.00:32:02.348 --> 00:32:03.914


It's an actual song, hilarious.00:32:03.914 --> 00:32:08.652


I'm adding that to my playlist as soon as we're done recording this episode.00:32:09.011 --> 00:32:13.117


Use the dating apps Date multiple people at the same time.00:32:13.838 --> 00:32:14.460


That's bad advice.00:32:14.460 --> 00:32:16.068


I think that's pretty normal.00:32:16.068 --> 00:32:17.654


I think that's normal, I think.00:32:17.654 --> 00:32:18.789


But like, how many though?00:32:18.789 --> 00:32:20.880


How many is too many at one time?00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:21.443


And it depends.00:32:21.443 --> 00:32:43.528


I mean, if you're having sex with multiple people at the same time without being open about it and upfront I don't know, show her who's boss, like how that can be scary, like how are you gonna show her?00:32:43.548 --> 00:32:43.949


that's a lawsuit.00:32:43.949 --> 00:32:45.614


The man's job for the wedding is just to show up.00:32:45.614 --> 00:32:46.656


It's a man's job for the wedding just to show up.00:32:46.676 --> 00:32:48.722


Yeah, technically it is like a woman's like day right, it's her day.00:32:48.722 --> 00:33:00.557


Yeah, I, I feel, I and I feel like you have to know your partner right, because, if, because, if you have a woman who has to be in control, and is super nitpicky about how the day is going to go.00:33:00.557 --> 00:33:03.153


You're probably going to have an easier day if you just show up.00:33:03.333 --> 00:33:06.792


It's true, Just be confident and women will fall all over.00:33:06.792 --> 00:33:11.170


You Again kind of goes back to the confidence thing Don't kiss for three months.00:33:11.170 --> 00:33:14.473


What Damn, oh this is worse dating advice.00:33:14.473 --> 00:33:19.020


Why would anyone get that advice like what a waste of three months, because what if you finally kiss in there?00:33:19.020 --> 00:33:20.107


Terrible kisser right?00:33:20.107 --> 00:33:24.096


Yeah, no, let the ladies approach you two decades later.00:33:24.096 --> 00:33:28.030


Be yourself.00:33:28.030 --> 00:33:30.174


Be yourself was on this list a lot.00:33:30.174 --> 00:33:31.698


Why is that bad dating advice?00:33:31.758 --> 00:33:33.759


I think that's great dating advice.00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:34.305


Why would you be anyone advice?00:33:34.305 --> 00:33:34.651


I think that's great dating advice.00:33:34.651 --> 00:33:34.837


Why would you?00:33:34.837 --> 00:33:38.983


Be anyone other than yourself that's what you should leave with maybe that's the problem.00:33:39.125 --> 00:33:42.294


Maybe that's the problem with people today is nobody is themselves.00:33:42.294 --> 00:33:45.036


Everybody's trying to be somebody that they're not and trying to impress people.00:33:45.136 --> 00:33:46.345


Everyone's trying to impress everyone.00:33:46.345 --> 00:33:55.720


Um, just keep texting, she'll finally respond no, that's not like harassment, it's harassment yes, try to be her friend first.00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:57.067


I think that's good advice.00:33:57.067 --> 00:33:57.528


Start.00:33:57.528 --> 00:33:58.692


They always say that.00:33:58.692 --> 00:33:59.393


You know.00:33:59.393 --> 00:34:03.510


They say marry your best friend, be with your best friend, stick it out with him.00:34:03.510 --> 00:34:04.212


He might change.00:34:04.212 --> 00:34:05.497


They never change.00:34:05.497 --> 00:34:06.565


Yeah, no, that's a no.00:34:06.565 --> 00:34:13.010


Try, tinder, that was on here the list a lot, although I'm at my house still around it's still around, isn't that crazy.00:34:13.190 --> 00:34:17.052


We've had a couple guests on, though, who say that tinder is like the hookup app.00:34:17.434 --> 00:34:27.496


Now it's not really so much a dating app anymore, it's more of the hookup app okay I hate this next one, and I've heard a lot of guys say this look at her mother so you can see if she's gonna be fat and ugly when she's older.00:34:27.496 --> 00:34:30.751


It's so mean.00:34:30.831 --> 00:34:35.679


I hate that one I mean, but there is a, there is a sliver of truth in it.00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:41.219


Like genetics are genetics, you know like, luckily, my mom is a knockout so I have nothing to worry about.00:34:41.219 --> 00:34:42.085


I can't relate.00:34:42.085 --> 00:34:43.969


I can't relate.00:34:43.969 --> 00:34:46.414


Uh, don't give up on her.00:34:46.414 --> 00:34:47.317


I don't know.00:34:47.317 --> 00:34:49.106


There might be a point where you just have to.00:34:49.106 --> 00:34:52.592


Sometimes you gotta give up on people just grab her by the kitty.00:34:52.592 --> 00:34:54.556


Yeah, no, that's the p word, no don't do that.00:34:54.637 --> 00:34:55.318


Don't do that.00:34:55.318 --> 00:34:57.451


Harassment again, another lawsuit.00:34:57.451 --> 00:34:58.815


They got that from Donald Trump.00:34:58.815 --> 00:35:00.291


Isn't that what he said?00:35:00.291 --> 00:35:01.385


Yes, exactly.00:35:02.668 --> 00:35:03.972


I'm sure it's just a bad selfie.00:35:03.972 --> 00:35:05.717


I'm sure she's much prettier in person.00:35:06.911 --> 00:35:10.990


She's probably not pretty in person take it from someone who's not photogenic you are.00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:11.932


Yeah, you're photogenic?00:35:11.952 --> 00:35:13.094


I am not photogenic.00:35:13.094 --> 00:35:15.159


I don't think I'm photogenic.00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.273


Some people just aren't photogenic.00:35:16.273 --> 00:35:17.643


Yeah, it's true, some people just don't look good in photos.00:35:17.643 --> 00:35:19.963


There are some people that look way prettier in person.00:35:19.983 --> 00:35:22.891


Yeah, and then the last one is to ask Reddit for dating advice.00:35:22.891 --> 00:35:24.414


Oh touche, Wow.00:35:24.414 --> 00:35:28.757


So where is your favorite place to take a girl on a?00:35:28.757 --> 00:35:29.757


Do you like coffee?00:35:29.757 --> 00:35:30.579


Do you like dinner?00:35:31.139 --> 00:35:31.920


Straight to the gym.00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.101


I got to see what type of shape she in.00:35:33.101 --> 00:35:33.920


No, I'm just playing, I don't know.00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:42.675


I like doing activities, so like a putt shack or I don't know, like the what's it called.00:35:42.675 --> 00:35:43.697


That's fun Pop stroll.00:35:43.697 --> 00:35:45.318


Yeah, I like to do something fun, interactive.00:35:45.318 --> 00:35:45.847


You know movies.00:35:45.847 --> 00:35:52.516


You can't really get to know somebody over a movie and then dinner is just, I mean, it'll get to a point for that, but that's just kind of cliche.00:35:52.536 --> 00:36:01.442


So I like to do some like activity or something maybe do an escape room or something speaking of gym on the first date, how do you feel about women who wear a full face of makeup to the gym?00:36:02.043 --> 00:36:02.422


you know what?00:36:02.422 --> 00:36:04.449


I actually had a discussion on threads about that.00:36:04.449 --> 00:36:10.552


I just don't understand how they do it like if you're sweating, like, does that come off, like, does it feel like sticky and uncomfortable?00:36:10.552 --> 00:36:13.175


I don't mind, mind it, but you know, I just don't understand it.00:36:13.516 --> 00:36:14.538


I don't understand it either.00:36:14.577 --> 00:36:14.818


Yeah.00:36:14.898 --> 00:36:31.815


And I see it and like I'm one who sweats a lot, and so then it's like if I, if I even have an ounce of makeup on my face like leftover from something else, you're like wiping yourself with a towel and then pretty soon you've got like makeup all over your towel or you're like you go like this and you've got makeup all over your sleeve, like it's.00:36:32.014 --> 00:36:35.840


I don't know how women do it I'm saying some women work out and it just stays on.00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.009


I don't know if there's like some like super, like it must.00:36:39.048 --> 00:36:44.668


Yeah, I don't know what it is, some long lasting the 24 hour for sure it must be exhausting.00:36:44.728 --> 00:36:51.813


I know some women that can never leave the house without a full face of makeup, like how miserable I'd hate to feel like I always have to be on you know.00:36:51.813 --> 00:36:57.192


So now we're gonna chat about the celebrity cup, where we marinate in the juices of the celebrities.00:36:57.192 --> 00:37:02.411


So you know how bill belichick very fitting um how he's dating jordan hudson?00:37:02.592 --> 00:37:03.934


yep, the 24 year old.00:37:03.934 --> 00:37:13.262


So I guess um a reporter was accepting an award and in her speech she said if bill didn't like something I wrote, he'd call and yell at me.00:37:13.262 --> 00:37:17.054


Now I totally understand why bill gave me such a hard time.00:37:17.054 --> 00:37:20.867


I was 28 years old at the time and he couldn't relate to a woman that old.00:37:20.887 --> 00:37:27.547


So she came out and said that, and then jordan clapped back and said not much of a laugh.00:37:27.547 --> 00:37:33.349


No wonder so many have a contempt for the media, especially those who want to be the story rather than report on the story.00:37:33.349 --> 00:37:39.768


So they're kind of going back and forth, okay jordan but how do you feel about the age difference in him dating such a younger woman?00:37:40.731 --> 00:37:42.617


uh, well, that seems to be like a thing now.00:37:42.617 --> 00:37:56.030


I know al pacino had a kid, one of them like robert al pacino, yeah, like one of them just recently had a kid and they're like 70 something years old, but it's like at that point, if I'm 70, 74, 75, I'm almost on my way out.00:37:56.030 --> 00:37:59.010


I don't know, maybe you can have some fun, as long as it's legal right.00:37:59.391 --> 00:38:01.853


It's true, whatever makes him happy, whatever floats his boat.00:38:02.164 --> 00:38:09.309


I mean, I'm pretty sure there's some nice older women, maybe his age, but you know, at that time maybe he just wanted to have some fun before his is up on this earth.00:38:09.548 --> 00:38:10.030


That's true.00:38:10.030 --> 00:38:12.233


Like didn't check everything off the bucket list.00:38:12.233 --> 00:38:13.996


So, it's like, let me just check this.00:38:13.996 --> 00:38:15.197


One last thing off.00:38:15.237 --> 00:38:17.121


I mean, she is gorgeous, she's stunning.00:38:17.121 --> 00:38:21.213


But how do you feel about her inserting herself in all of his business affairs?00:38:21.445 --> 00:38:23.313


I'm pretty sure he has say so over there.00:38:23.313 --> 00:38:28.393


I know, coach, like he's not going to have someone speak for him, that he doesn't want speaking for him.00:38:38.005 --> 00:38:40.391


So I'm pretty sure they have some level of communication to where he's allowing her to do that.00:38:40.391 --> 00:38:44.141


Yeah, and if that's his way of making sure that, she's good after he's gone, without giving her the life insurance policy or the estate or his kids' stuff.00:38:44.141 --> 00:38:44.802


You know what I mean.00:38:44.802 --> 00:38:52.891


That's his sort of way of protecting her and making sure that she's good after he's gone then, why not do it that way?00:38:53.052 --> 00:38:53.896


You know what I mean.00:38:53.896 --> 00:38:54.257


It's true.00:38:54.284 --> 00:39:03.954


When you're not giving up your family legacy for this woman, but you're making sure that she's okay in a different way.00:39:03.954 --> 00:39:04.507


Did you see her?00:39:04.547 --> 00:39:06.855


real estate portfolio recently Like skyrocketed.00:39:06.855 --> 00:39:09.690


She has like 10, 15 properties Nice.00:39:09.690 --> 00:39:13.119


So you like Bell, he was a good guy, he was a good coach.00:39:14.905 --> 00:39:15.447


Greatest coach expertise.00:39:15.447 --> 00:39:16.510


Nice, so you like bell, he was a good guy.00:39:16.510 --> 00:39:17.094


Yeah, greatest coach ever.00:39:17.094 --> 00:39:20.527


That was my first uh football family, new england patriots, so I got to see firsthand why they've won so many championships.00:39:20.527 --> 00:39:22.757


Just because of how he leads that organization and team.00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.748


Yeah, and, did you like, living in boston I love it.00:39:25.788 --> 00:39:27.492


Boston is my favorite place to live.00:39:27.492 --> 00:39:31.527


Like we talk about dating the women that are gorgeous, the cape virgins.00:39:31.527 --> 00:39:34.853


It's like a melting pot of so many different ethnicities.00:39:34.853 --> 00:39:36.056


So it is.00:39:36.135 --> 00:39:43.382


I went to boston for the first time this past summer and only there for one day because we went out to martha's vineyard in nantucket.00:39:43.382 --> 00:39:48.996


But I was like next summer I'm coming back to boston for a longer period of time because I love the city.00:39:49.125 --> 00:39:50.266


It's a hidden gem for sure.00:39:50.286 --> 00:39:55.835


I love it I could be wrong, but doesn't it seem like the east coast women are a little more natural and real?00:39:56.255 --> 00:40:03.336


yeah, I would say so, like you're talking about, as far as like people have like women having like their bodies done and stuff yeah that's more.00:40:03.505 --> 00:40:19.637


That's more, I say prevalent out here, like not out here, but like the west coast vegas it just seems like like boston, they're a lot more about intellect and they're a lot more down to earth, laid back, more real.00:40:19.637 --> 00:40:25.193


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Frozen yogurt?00:40:28.038 --> 00:40:28.679


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It's delicious Nice, so rapid fire.00:40:32.954 --> 00:40:34.076


We're going to ask you these questions.00:40:34.076 --> 00:40:34.516


Let's get it.00:40:38.572 --> 00:40:40.402


Best or worst pickup line you've ever used, or heard that on me or somebody else?00:40:40.402 --> 00:40:40.764


Either one.00:40:41.025 --> 00:40:41.409


Someone that's.00:40:41.409 --> 00:40:43.043


Has anyone ever used a pickup line on you?00:40:43.043 --> 00:40:43.244


Well, yeah.00:40:43.244 --> 00:40:49.494


The whole, you're a tall drink of water.00:40:49.494 --> 00:40:51.016


I think that's like oh God.00:40:51.016 --> 00:40:57.456


It's always like either a height thing or something or you know, I could never date you because you'd be constantly talking down to me.00:40:58.666 --> 00:41:00.117


That one I haven't heard, but that's pretty clever.00:41:00.117 --> 00:41:00.923


I'd laugh at that one.00:41:00.923 --> 00:41:02.469


I would laugh at that one.00:41:02.864 --> 00:41:04.472


What's your favorite body part on a partner?00:41:05.284 --> 00:41:06.670


Two legs.00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:08.114


Legs, I love legs.00:41:08.114 --> 00:41:09.606


What gives you the ick?00:41:09.626 --> 00:41:16.938


I say tone of voice like a woman that talks too aggressive.00:41:17.257 --> 00:41:17.518


Yeah.00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:18.039


Yeah.00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:25.150


Is watching porn considered cheating In a relationship?00:41:25.150 --> 00:41:26.873


Probably yeah, I would say.00:41:27.614 --> 00:41:28.434


Before you're intimate?00:41:28.434 --> 00:41:31.318


Is it appropriate to ask your date how many people they've been with?00:41:31.318 --> 00:41:33.621


No, it's not appropriate.00:41:33.621 --> 00:41:35.403


Is it acceptable to have your date how many people they've been with?00:41:35.403 --> 00:41:35.965


No, it's not appropriate.00:41:36.905 --> 00:41:39.108


Is it acceptable to have sex on a first date At both parties' consent?00:41:39.148 --> 00:41:43.072


yeah, Should you disclose mental health issues early on in a relationship?00:41:43.072 --> 00:41:43.972


I think so, yep.00:41:43.972 --> 00:41:47.175


And last but not least, what is your favorite sexual position and why?00:41:48.376 --> 00:41:49.579


I like couch cowgirl.00:41:50.179 --> 00:41:50.800


Couch cowgirl.00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.501


I like couch cowgirl too Wow.00:41:56.804 --> 00:41:57.947


Had to squeeze that in there.00:41:57.947 --> 00:41:59.512


Yeah, do you have any other questions?00:41:59.532 --> 00:42:00.954


I don't have any questions for us?00:42:00.954 --> 00:42:03.188


Uh, so what's dating like for you ladies out in arizona?00:42:03.228 --> 00:42:05.873


well, you're married so tinder baby love it.00:42:05.873 --> 00:42:06.396


First swipe.00:42:06.396 --> 00:42:07.016


What about you?00:42:07.606 --> 00:42:11.112


I, I've, I've, so I've been here since 2012.00:42:11.112 --> 00:42:18.733


Okay, um, I've had two significant relationships in that time and I'm good on dating in.00:42:18.753 --> 00:42:19.114


Arizona.00:42:19.114 --> 00:42:21.710


Have you dated more in Scottsdale?00:42:22.572 --> 00:42:24.315


A little bit, A little bit.00:42:24.315 --> 00:42:25.728


Yeah, it's just.00:42:25.728 --> 00:42:26.693


It's this.00:42:26.693 --> 00:42:30.570


I just it's not a great place to date, so I made a thread about that.00:42:31.085 --> 00:42:33.614


I was asking like why is the dating pool Arizona so bad?00:42:33.614 --> 00:42:36.918


And it was like a consensus, like it's terrible out here it's just bad.00:42:37.260 --> 00:42:42.172


It's like statistically ranked like the number one worst place to date yeah and I've dated my.00:42:42.434 --> 00:42:46.010


I have family in Dallas, so I go to Dallas a lot and so.00:42:46.010 --> 00:43:06.115


I've dated guys in Dallas and I find I I like a long distance relationship, I like a little bit of distance, I like a little bit of distance, I like a little bit of space, and so once I'm sort of ready to get back into dating as something that I'm doing intentionally, I think that might be my jam.00:43:06.175 --> 00:43:07.260


Long distance yeah.00:43:07.646 --> 00:43:13.405


And not necessarily long distance, but not dating in my neighborhood.00:43:13.806 --> 00:43:16.235


Oh yeah, If that makes sense dating a good year.00:43:19.170 --> 00:43:22.797


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Oh my God, I just totally got catfished.00:43:43.244 --> 00:43:50.297


He looks absolutely nothing like his picture, so I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.00:43:50.297 --> 00:43:52.451


His wife just reached out to me.