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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.
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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.
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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.
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His wife just reached out to me.
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Welcome to the Meat Market.
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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.
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We are your hosts.
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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is Claudia.
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Welcome, thank you, thank you so much.
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So you had hired a private investigator on a guy that you went on a first date with and you found some pretty disturbing stuff.
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Tell us so.
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I would say it wasn't a first date, okay.
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So he had been really honest and he had, like you know, disclosed some things to me, but I'm a mom of two and I can't afford to trip, so I'm like I'm going to do my due diligence.
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Good smart.
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Yeah, and everything he had told me checked out, so he was honest about it, but still it like it didn't serve me, like the things that I discovered.
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And so was the private investigator because, as women, right Like we, are all private investigators in our own rights right.
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I feel like.
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I feel like with a first name in a city I can find out a lot of information.
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So did you do your own deep dive first and just were like hitting roadblocks or what led you to feel like you needed to actually hire someone?
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You know those like low hanging websites where it's like $5, $1.
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Like I did, all of those Truthfindercom or whatever.
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Yes, I did all of those and the only really reason I did it was because I have kids.
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Okay, it's really the only reason.
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So, had I had not have children or been married or whatever, I honestly probably wouldn't have done it, just truthfully, which is so scary nowadays that people aren't doing their due diligence.
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But yes, I tried all the original low hanging fruit websites and then I found this company and they're local here in Arizona and they're retired cops and we actually may potentially work together.
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So question you did the low hanging fruit companies, yeah, what made you go to the more experienced companies?
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Did you find something little yeah?
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So it was just so long ago the incident that took place that you're not going to find it online.
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You know, and had he had not been fully transparent, I probably would have stopped.
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He mentioned he had something yeah what like a felony or a it was a felony.
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It was a felony, oh okay, yeah, and um, it was just something I couldn't.
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I couldn't kind of move forward with let go you know, yeah, what was it?
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can you say no, I?
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Respect okay, and.
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I'm really grateful.
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Honestly, he was a really key player in the development of who I've become.
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So everything happens for a reason he served his purpose, he is amazing and actually I was like this isn't going to work.
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But we still chat all the time.
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We're not close and see each other too often, but I just wish him the best it's kind of scary to me because they say there are many articles about if you are single and you have kids.
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When you post your profile online you do not put any pictures of your kids, do not say you have kids, because apparently there are predators that go on these dating websites looking for the kids.
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No, Looking to access these women just to get to their kids.
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It's so disturbing to me, it's so gross well as a mom of two, they're like my first priority and my life is already so like enriched by them that I'm like listen, I can single life this and do a really good job on it, you know.
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So I'm like but I would love someone complimentary to come into my life.
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That is amazing for them and elevates it If it's if they're going to come in with this like third child syndrome, I would have just had another kid you know Right, true, I love how you made the comment that if you are to get married again, you want to check in monthly and be like is this marriage still serving us?
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I love that.
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I think that's so important still serving us.
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I love that.
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I think that's so important.
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I would say monthly is like too frequent.
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I would probably go like every five years.
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And it has to be on vacation outside of this country, not like local, like we're going to go to Santa Barbara, no, like like we're going to go on vacation.
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Exactly Because, like it's so hard to like invest that much and then have a terrible time.
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Like let's actually like have a moment and reassess.
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It doesn't have to be every five years, maybe every 10 years, but I think a nice check-in on vacation.
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Do you think it needs to be more frequent earlier on, as you're learning each other and sort of like learning?
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each other's.
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That would really make sense.
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Styles Like I could see that.
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I could see like a yearly check-in or something like that in within the first, you know, five years, and then, once you've made it that far, yeah, then it, you can start to.
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I actually really like that idea.
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That's a really great idea, yeah, yeah, instead of just like dating unintentionally willy-nilly like, let's go to dinner let's go to dinner.
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Like it gets old, it does, it does.
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I want to go back really quick a second and talk about the private investigator.
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Oh yeah, it's bringing me to this story, and I don't think I ever told you this, Lindsay.
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So the first guy that I dated seriously here in Arizona was back in like 2014, 2015.
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And years after I ended things with him.
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This was the guy who was catfishing online.
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Remember Hashtag no complaints.
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Yes hashtag.
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No complaints.
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I found out that he had all these fake dating profiles and social media profiles, that he was pretending to be someone else.
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Okay, so fast forward.
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Years later I was back home in the Midwest and we were driving somewhere.
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We were literally on the road in South Dakota in the middle of nowhere, and I was with both of my parents in the car and my other, my second guy that I have dated here in the past like 13 years.
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But I get a phone call and it's a private investigator looking for my ex what.
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Yeah, what was he hired?
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to find out.
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I don't know, he couldn't all he wanted, he wanted to see if I still was in contact with him, if I knew a current address, if I had an updated telephone.
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Now I didn't have any information for him and he unfortunately couldn't give me any information.
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But I remember being in the car and talking to my parents and my partner at the time and I was like oh my God, you guys will never guess Like this was a.
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It was a private investigator looking for my ex.
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They were like what the heck?
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It was so crazy.
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So do you think it was another woman that hired this private investigator?
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I'm not sure he told me.
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He said, said I was given your number by and then it was a woman's name.
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That he said it was a woman's name and I remember texting.
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We had one mutual friend with the same name and I texted her and I was like hey, are for some reason are you looking into?
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You know so and so, and she was like no and so I don't know.
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So I don't know who it was, I don't know what they were looking for.
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I don't know that poor woman.
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Yes, yes, yes, so I so I have no idea, but somebody was doing their due diligence on him you have to do your due diligence especially if you have kids especially if you have kids.
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It's I think it's critical.
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It may come off like kind of a little too much, but I don't think you need to do that immediately like first, like actually see if you're interested to even look, because that requires time and energy and money, so it has to be worth it, yeah for sure.
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So they had said that during COVID, during lockdown, the divorce rate skyrocketed.
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You are a victim of that or you are one of those statistics?
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So you got a COVID divorce.
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Tell us about that, I did.
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I was divorced in 2020.
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Was it the lockdown that kind of created the?
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problem Actually.
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No, we both worked from home, like we were always home.
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Now some of my girlfriends, on the other hand, their husbands, were like coming home and they were like, oh my God, they're not used to spending this much time together.
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So for him and I, we were always together and I think like things just got kind of flat.
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And then the whole COVID pressures and having a young family and being a relatively young mom, you know, you kind of just like go through these motions and it kind of you realize whether your person is really your person.
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But we co-parent and he's an amazing dad.
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So I really don't have anything negative to say.
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That's awesome, so you have an amicable relationship and good co-parenting.
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Working on it.
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You're lucky.
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I mean every day just working on it 're lucky, I mean every day just working on it so what are you looking to get married again?
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what are you looking for?
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um, great question.
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Um, I'm not saying no to the idea of marriage.
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It just has to be like a really um, like an organic fit.
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If that's gonna happen, like this has been my best friend that I finally just met, type of feeling, you know.
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So I'm not saying no, but I am looking for just an amazing human who can stand in my corner, I think teaming.
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I have amazing parents and their relationship, although sometimes they want to kill each other, which is totally normal they are.
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Take bonnie and clyde you know they are like in it for the win.
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So thanks mom and dad for setting the bar so high so now I'm like who can match that like naturally right, so um so we'll see.
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I feel like back in the olden days, when something was broken, you fix it.
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You take the time to figure out what's going wrong and you fix it.
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Nowadays, I feel people just throw it away and go and buy their shiny new toy because there's so many options out there.
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They don't want to take the time to fix it, don't you think?
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Yeah?
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agreed.
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There's this back door, this emergency door that you can just exit the relationship at any time.
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Regarding my marriage, I felt like I was willing to do the work.
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You know I was married for eight years, but we were together for 15.
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So we were together since I was 19.
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Oh wow.
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One of those really sticky cohesive relationships are to break.
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But yeah, so I feel like what I'm looking for is just like an amazing human who can stand in my corner, preferably a dad.
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I've realized dating humans who are not fathers, not for me.
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How old are your kids?
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um, I have a soon-to-be seven-year-old and a nine-year-old, okay, so do you want someone that has kids that are a similar age as your kids?
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Or do you have a preference?
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Um like, would you date a man with like a two-year-old?
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that's hard.
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I mean, I have um and they're amazing dads, but I find that I want to help them and I need to, like, protect my energy because, it's not my place.
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The motherly instinct just sort of kicks in and it's like that's like a hard dance, you know, and and then I've also went on a few dates where I found that the guy was just looking for, like his next built in babysitter because he works so much, and that's also definitely not me.
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Not at all.
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My ex was that way a little bit.
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He couldn't be alone with his kids ever.
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He had his kids and it was like I.
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We were together for four years and I don't think he ever spent one weekend just being alone with the kids.
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I think that's hard.
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It's hard it's hard for some.
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Yeah, yeah, I get that.
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Um, so, yeah, definitely a dad.
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I think maybe high school to college would be really nice, because then, like, I need to be inspired by someone.
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So I can only see that that person would have vision and experience.
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So I would hope that by having older kids, they'd be like listen, claudia, that's great what you're doing, but this is how I would do it.
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Like I would hope that by having older kids, they'd be like listen, claudia, that's great what you're doing, but this is how I would do it, like I would love that redirection, or to be able to give you examples of how it went for them Like.
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Oh, when my kids were this age, this is how we navigated through this so that you can sort of take their experiences and feedback and learn from it.
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Yeah, I like that.
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Are you on the dating apps?
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Actually, as of recently, I have X'd out of all dating apps.
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Oh, wow, yeah, except one, which one?
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are you still on Hinge, hinge, okay, has your experience been bad?
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How's that been?
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I use this analogy a lot.
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Dating apps are like looking in a trash can that's caught on fire it's like where's the gem, you know?
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No offense to anyone on dating apps.
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I'm on dating apps but um, as of recently I closed down all of them except hinge.
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So we'll see.
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I'm good you made the comment that so disturbing.
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You have gone on a bunch of dates where the guys refer to their exes as the c word.
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Yeah, that's crazy that they just throw that word around.
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It's so unclassy it's so unclassy and it so speaks to like a place of like who they are, as their, as a man, like within their masculinity, and that does not serve me and it makes you think are they going to refer to you as that word if you don't work out?
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yeah, you know.
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I mean, I just I don't think I could be with someone who doesn't just like have a great relationship with the mom of their kids, you know, like such an important role.
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So so, yeah, definitely not younger.
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I'm clearly everything points to like the older generation so what are your hobbies?
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what do you do on your day off or your weekends?
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so I am really focused on health and wellness.
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Um, so, within the past two years, I've been practicing meditation, like yin yoga style meditation.
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So, um, I found it to be amazing and helpful in broadening my capacity to deal with life.
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But really I want to say shit, just deal with shit, but, um, but life in general, you know, just had more capacity.
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It's almost like your plate goes from being really small to being really big and now you can just deal with more and handle more.
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So that's been really nice.
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I'm hitting up the farmer's markets and trying new recipes and, yeah, I love hanging out with my friends and family family first, always and yeah, is your family here in Arizona?
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do you have?
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Yeah?
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yeah, they.
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They originally uh bought property out here, and so I transferred for college to ASU.
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Okay, so what are your deal breakers in a man?
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Great question.
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Another one Um, I would say, ooh, that's a good one.
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I would say, um, so many are like flooding my mind right now that I'm trying to be like really selective with what I say.
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I'm like I just saw like a Rolodex of I'm just kidding.
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No, I would say well, the relationship with the mom, I think, is a mega deal breaker.
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Also, you have to be a morning person to like jive with my energy.
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I can't wake up at six and like go to the gym and I come back and like you're still sleeping, like I would die.
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I would die.
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So just someone that can keep up and like inspire me, um, is what I'm looking for.
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But another deal breaker yeah, you gotta be active, that's a big one.
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Um, alcohol is a really big one too.
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Um, do you drink?
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at all.
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Yep, socially okay.
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So drinking too much would be a deal breaker yeah, but there's a lot of functioning alcoholics out there, oh for sure.
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And it's like I don't know that world.
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I've never seen addiction like in the eyes, so I don't really know.
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Um, I did go out with this guy and I'm like, just like something's up.
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Like a month we we dated.
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And I'm like looking at him and I'm like, is he autistic?
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No, he was an alcoholic.
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So like, maybe I'm the special one because I'm like, oh, something's not wrong with him, no, something's wrong with him.
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So, um, but yeah, so I would just say, uh, alcohol intake is a big one.
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And describe your perfect type, experienced, seasoned, someone who, like, calms my energy, like there's people you can meet and you're just like they're overstimulating Too much.
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Yeah, no, someone I can like who can serve as my confidant I think that's pretty big.
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And someone who's worldly is a must, like worldly is important for me, you seem very worldly, very educated, Did you?
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where did you go to?
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college, you're kind.
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I went to Virginia Commonwealth and then I transferred to ASU.
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You can tell you're very educated and you've got a smart head on your shoulders.
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I think it's kind of screwed on a little too tight.
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Sometimes I've noticed all my friends are aries and they're all like let's go salsa dance, like let's do this, let's do that and I like need that push you know, because I'm like very rigid.
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Naturally do you have any unique facts about yourself that not many people know, or crazy talents I wish um crazy talents.
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Can you sing.
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I mean, my voice isn't bad.
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I mean, I'm not I mean when I hear myself no, I'm, I'm actually uh, creative.
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Oh so, um, sometimes I get like super inspired.
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I'll paint.
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Um, I like to do a lot of arts and crafts projects with the kids.
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I'm not scared of like getting dirty with them, but recently I purchased a home and I gutted it to the studs and I just created my space and it was like so therapeutic.
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How I can turn that passion into like more of a career would be amazing, but it's really more so of a passion.
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I think it belongs there.
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Do you travel with your kids?
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I do, do you?
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do you?
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Yeah, not as much as I want to, though.
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Yeah.
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How do you find that?
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Is it easy?
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Are they easy to travel with?
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they're amazing yeah, they're amazing.