Dating in Beta: Eric’s Analytical Quest for Love 💡💕

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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.

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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.

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Welcome to the Meat Market.

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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is Eric Welcome.

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I am so glad to be here.

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I don't know if I would use the word sizzling, but I'm here.

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I'm single, forever single.

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Listen, I'm self-deprecating.

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Call it like I see it.

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Let's have a good time with it.

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So I hear you love statistics, and you love statistics so much that you keep a spreadsheet on your dating life.

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Tell us about that.

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Do you really want me to?

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pull it out on my phone and start giving you numbers.

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Kind of yeah, All right, so what happened?

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All right fine.

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All right, so in 2023,.

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I went out with 18 different girls.

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I was like, all right, from the dating apps.

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I was like, all right, well, I got to see how 2024 goes, so I kept a spreadsheet of matches from the dating apps.

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Then I would have conversations which I constituted as going back and forth twice, so that counts as a conversation.

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Now, if it's a one-timer, no conversation, that's a miss.

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I'm serious, that's how I do.

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It Doesn't make the spreadsheet a one-timer.

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Then I have dates and so I would play the conversion.

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Listen, I'm in marketing and stats, so, yeah, I want to see how I do so.

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Basically, last year I matched with about 130 different girls over 12 months.

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I had I went out with 24, albeit 21 of them came from the dating apps, three were not from the dating apps, and I think my conversations were about one out of every three.

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No, sorry, it's one out of so.

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Half the girls that I matched with I had a conversation with, and then I would say's one out of so.

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Half the girls that I matched with I had a conversation with, and then I would say, about one-third of those I had a date with.

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Wow.

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So what conclusions did you make from these statistics?

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Dating apps suck.

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I mean, you know, I never drew it up.

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Being 42 and single, there was no way that thinking about it when I was younger, that this was how it was going to turn out, and it's just.

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I'm living like a nightmare and I tell my married friends I was like be glad you never have to do this.

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It's so bad.

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And there's some wonderful people that I meet and there's some really shitty dates.

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I mean it's the way it is.

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Like it's just bad.

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And as a guy, like when I go out, I'm paying.

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Like every date I'm paying.

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Like every date I'm paying.

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So you know a girl, you go out, you're getting a free dinner, free, whatever.

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Like it's great.

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So where do you take a woman on a first date?

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Because that's got to get expensive All right.

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So my favorite little double play that I call here so when you go to the Biltmore I like to do the Pomo Frost double play.

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So you take them over to Pomo.

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Such a sports guy them over to pomo, such a sports guy, of course, everything's a sports analogy with me.

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So I take them to pomo, which you know, the italian place.

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You get a glass of wine and I get you know, I'm a picky eater, I eat like a five-year-old.

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So I get like a little margarita pizza, I'm happy with that.

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And then I take them to gelato, and you know you go get.

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You know, I get my chocolate gelato and they get whatever.

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And I'll tell you what the success rate for date number two is like 80, 90%.

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Oh, wow, okay, so 80, 90% of the time it works every time.

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Listen, I'll take the wins where I can get them, because there are a lot of losses.

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So that's what you take, everyone on the first date.

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So do this.

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No, okay, so you don't take everyone no.

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So I go by location.

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I always say you know what part of town is most comfortable to you.

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Well, a lot of the girls that I match with are in central Phoenix, so we'll do the Biltmore.

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Oh yeah, it's like halfway I'm like oh for the world, the Blanco Over the years.

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Like you know, when you go to like I'll take girls to Blanco and my second date percentage is really bad and long term it does not end well blanco.

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That's so funny.

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I don't know why, I don't know, it's interesting, it's been bad, yeah.

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So now I figure you know in true food for me this I figure you go to pomo, you get a glass of wine, you get a little, you know whatever, normally I get a second date out of it.

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So you know the small victories in life do you keep notes in your spreadsheet like of, like, this was a really good day.

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This is, it's all in your head.

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Oh my what so I can tell you just about I mean of the girls I went through it the other day from 2024.

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And there's been six this year thus far, through April.

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So all right, so 30 girls over the last two years.

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I can tell you at least one thing about everyone that I've gone out with and give you kind of like a here's what I thought.

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So why do you think there are no second dates?

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Oh, I get second dates.

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Why do you think there's no relationship?

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That's the question I've wondered for a long time.

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Lindsay, I think I do everything right.

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I mean, I'm an old fashioned gentleman.

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I hold open car doors.

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I walk them to the car.

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I hold open doors, like I do.

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I pay for the meal, like, do things right.

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Maybe I'm not that interesting, I don't know what I will say.

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The biggest problem that I have on dates is that and I love to ask questions you know I work in uh broadcasting somewhat so I get a chance to to host some podcasts like you two and ask questions the amount of people that don't know how to ask back and keep the two way conversation going, I hate that.

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And that's just in general in life.

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I'm not just forget just dating, but just when you meet somebody, think about, I mean, in your jobs, like you meet somebody, how often do they say how's your day and ask you anything back.

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That's what gets frustrating?

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Yeah, also, do you feel like the problem might be the apps in some of these?

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Women are just sort of on them for free dinner, so I thought about that.

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Have you ever got that impression?

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Yeah, there's sometimes I go out and I'm like this girl's totally using me for dinner.

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I wouldn't say that often because I like to think that I vet them well enough.

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There was one girl I have good dating stories, so my friends love it.

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This is how I'm useful to my friends, because I give them, you know, the married couples.

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I give them, you know the married couples, I give them good dating stories.

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This one will go back about three years ago and I take a girl and I match with her on the app night before, and this was in July, and I was like I don't know, she's probably not going to be that great of a conversationalist, but OK, we'll give it a shot.

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So we end up going to Grimaldi's OK, yeah, grimaldi's, great place, right.

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So I walk up to the at the front and I see her and I say, hey, how are you?

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Fine, what I'm going.

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Here we go.

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So we sit down.

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I'm starving, okay.

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So I get there.

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We order our glasses of wine.

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I say, hey, what kind of pizza do you want, knowing that you know I'm cheese only, whatever, I'll get my half.

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I don't eat red, whatnot, and it's just, it's like an interview.

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I mean, might as well be holding a microphone right so finally.

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I say this is literally word for word.

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I say so what's your favorite kind of music Rap?

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So what's your favorite like?

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Who's your favorite artist?

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I don't have one.

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So what do you listen to on your playlists?

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I don't know.

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I said I'm like I'm 20 minutes in.

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I usually can talk to the wall.

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I said I'm done, I got nothing.

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So I said, excuse me, I need to go to the bathroom.

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So I go and I stand in the bathroom.

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I look in the mirror for like two minutes just to make it look right.

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I'm like I got to get out of here.

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What do I?

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To cut this short?

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And I'm a really bad liar, okay, so we do that.

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And she goes are you serious?

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Yeah, I'm just starving girls Like I'm I'm dying here.

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The food hasn't come yet.

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We didn't even order.

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I didn't want to order I was delaying.

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I knew this was so bad, okay fine.

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So uh, the bill comes, I pay the bill.

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We walk outside.

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I say I wish you well, give her a half hug.

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I bolt down the other way, delete her out of my phone, delete the hinge, match.

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Okay fine.

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A half an hour later I'm talking to friends on the way home.

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I'm like that was a traumatizing date.

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I get a text from her number and it simply says 0 slash 10.

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And I was going to write your personality question mark but I did not.

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I figure you know what you got to be an adult here and just let it slide.

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And never she sounds riveting.

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So can you give us her information, so we can have her as a guest on the podcast.

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She sounds so exciting.

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I have plenty of guest suggestions.

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That is not one of them.

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So what was her?

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deal Like was she just not interested from the get-go?

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She was doing this the whole time.

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Like is that just?

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who she is, her personality Maybe, Well.

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I don't want to give more detail because I'm sure she's a nice girl and I certainly hope that she's not watching, but when you're sitting across from somebody who's rocking for half an hour and not asking questions and answering them in one word answer, I mean it was brutal.

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That was arguably one of the worst ones I've ever had.

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And I think that's why a lot of people don't want to do dinner on a first date, because then you're stuck.

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Like what?

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If you had have ordered the pizza and it was taking a long time, you would have had to go through that for another hour.

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And do you come with the same energy, Like you're ready to go?

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You come with the same energy, like you're ready to go.

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You're like, hey, I'm pumped about this date, Like let's, let's see where this is going, Like it was just on two different levels.

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That's a great question.

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Jess, I tried it.

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If I'm going to have a date, and I know that like I gotta be up for it and I think that, based on a conversation, like I know which dates at this point are going to be decent and which ones are going to suck I went out with a girl.

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Oh, first of all, my motto is this if the date's gonna suck, at least I hope it's interesting enough to get a story out of it.

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True, like I went out with a girl the other week and she was very nice and it was just a boring like there was nothing there.

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Like and I don't have any good stories from it.

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It was clear she wasn't into it and I wasn't into it.

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Just okay, cool, but I don't have a good story.

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So that was kind of like a bummer.

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I'm like I just paid for this and I don't even get a good story out of it.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So going back to that other girl like there was no need for her to send that text zero out of ten.

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No, Like what was the point of that.

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I mean, I guess I was a bad liar.

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Maybe she was saying my lying skills were a zero out of ten.

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I mean, probably she obviously had some other issues that were not good and she was either too nervous or too whatever.

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And it was, but it was utterly painful, that one like I don't think I went out on another date for like a month, month and a half Cause.

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I was so traumatized.

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after that date I was like I cannot believe this just happened to me.

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Do you have any other dating disaster stories.

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Where do you?

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Where do you want me to start?

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All right, I'll give you one.

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Okay, and this girl is very nice.

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So if she's watching which I don't believe, she has social media, so hopefully she's not.

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So my birthday was a couple months ago and I was going out with this girl on a third date and very, you know, fine.

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The first two dates went well, okay, solid.

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She comes over on a Sunday afternoon and she brings me a gift bag for my birthday and brownies which I love.

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Oh, this is great.

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I you know I'm thinking, wow, this girl.

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So in the gift bag she hands me the brownies.

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I put them in my, my fridge.

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I opened, I said she said open the gift bag after we eat lunch.

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So we go to lunch, we come back to my house, I opened the gift bag.

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There's some golf balls, there's some candy in there.

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Oh, that's really sweet.

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So, whatever she leaves, you know it was still, you know, very start of the relationship and she leaves about an hour later and I call one of my good girlfriends and I say I'll tell you what we might have a prospect here, like this girl really went above and beyond.

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I haven't opened her card yet.

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Let me open the card.

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So I open the.

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I pull out the card and it says scott, and my friend on the phone is dying already.

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I open out of the envelope and it says happy birthday, scott.

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Xoxo her name as a reminder to our listeners, our guest's name is eric yes, so, yes.

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So I text her.

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I say, hey, thank you so much for the brownies and everything else.

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However, did you mean for the card to be for someone else?

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And she said, well, oh no, I had a friend over and my handwriting is so bad that I had my friend write the card and she's crushing on a guy named Scott.

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Wow, that's a pretty quick lie, though.

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That's a pretty quick cover up.

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It is impressive.

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But there's no good that can come out of that lie because, either she can't write six words, so that's really not good.

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That's true, that is true.

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So I mean sometimes, sometimes you go, we're giving her too much credit.

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I had last year.

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I had a girl bring a seven-week-old baby that was not hers by birth on the date.

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Wait what?

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Why Was she babysitting?

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She was in the process of trying to adopt the baby and brought the baby on a first date and this was not an online date.

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This was a setup and so that one was interesting, A nice girl, but I just date number two.

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Well, I guess you know why not.

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Because if you're not going to accept that baby, why go on a second date?

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Yeah, but she can tell you about the baby without bringing it on the date she did.

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Well, right, but she wanted, and she kept saying, well, we're going to come and we're going to.

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I mean, I'm thrilled for her with that's what she wanted.

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She literally was looking for a baby.

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Daddy, don't you love her?

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Isn't she so cute?

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Aren't you so attached now?

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I mean I always thought I would have kids and it's to the point where if I have kids I'd like them to be my own.

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I'm not saying that's like 100% either way, but that was a lot and so that one was kind of a tricky one.

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Didn was kind of a tricky one.

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Didn't you date someone that was in a cult?

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She was not.

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She was a very nice girl.

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But I did some Googling.

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I'm very listen, I work in research, like I know how to dig up things and her family had recently been, I guess, freed from said cult, oh my gosh.

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And I once asked her.

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I said this sounds like, sounds like a cult.

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And she said it's not a cult and I'm like, yeah, it was.

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There were websites saying it was a cult.

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So I'm gonna say it was, it was.

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It just made things more difficult than they already were.

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Uh, the parents were, um, staying with her indefinitely, uh, and in a small townhouse and it certainly complicated thing.

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And I actually really liked her, like she and I went out.

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She was the most that I had gone a girl I went out with eight, eight times last year and it just wasn't.

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It wasn't working long term like I was trying to find every solution and everything was failing.

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Very nice girl and I liked her attractive and she checked a lot of boxes.

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That made it difficult.

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And didn't you say you went on a date with someone that would make you brush your teeth Like before kissing, after kissing?

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Same girl, same girl.

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Was that part of the cult ritual?

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It was not.

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Her job was in dentistry, okay, and that was a big thing, and I like to think that I have good dental hygiene.

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My grandfather was a dentist.

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My father was a doctor.

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I know how to take care of myself.

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You have nice teeth, my parents paid a lot of money for braces and retainers and stuff as a kid.

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So uh, yeah, but it's um, that was a tough one, uh, every time that we would go out and she had a gluten allergy, I believe, and was afraid that you know, could be transmissible by.

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I can tell you that after talking with some doctors and people in the medical field that it seems rather difficult for that to happen Not impossible, but very unlikely.

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But very nice, girl.

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I'm sorry it didn't work out.

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I'm sorry things were not able to work out there.

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I have been willing to brush my teeth usually people are concerned about, you know, stis.

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She's worried about having a gluten reaction chest.

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We weren't even, I mean literally, it was, uh, the opposite, for that one.

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I mean it was, I was slow, it was like straight out of high school.

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I mean it was it was gonna be a long-term play.

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Oh, that's so funny and I'm okay with that.

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So you're looking to get married, potentially have kids?

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Describe your perfect partner.

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Somebody who has a personality.

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I mean I think let's start there.

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Obviously you want somebody you're attracted to.

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We all know that.

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Like that's key Physical attraction, everybody could say, yeah, it fades whatever.

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Yeah, we both want to enjoy it.

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Like, I want somebody who's into me as I'm into them Great.

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I want somebody who is engaging, who is intelligent, who is witty and calls me on my crap and is willing to say all right, enough, watching sports today, we're doing this Like that.

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And a lot of people aren't, you know, aren't willing to do that.

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Listen, you want to.

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I like mean girls.

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I don't know what it is, but I like when girls are mean, I just it's, it's, it's a flaw, I know it, I'll own it.

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But nice girls it's very rare.

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When I meet a nice girl I'm like wow, you're almost too nice.

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I'm not used to this.

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I mean I dated a girl one time.

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She was very we'll just say stern um with me and she called me a lot on my stuff.

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I mean a lot, a lot and I really, really liked her, no question about that.

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But I just have always liked girls who are going to lay down the law.

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Do you think you'd like a professional dominatrix?

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No, that's not going over the top here, but but I just I mean, listen, I like, I like somebody that you know, I like a girl that knows what she wants when within reason.

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I you know there and I think I've learned, I learned from that experience and you know okay can stand up for myself a little bit better.

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I'm not a pushover, I can promise you that, but just somebody that knows how to have a conversation and somebody that can tell a good story.

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I feel like I can tell a good story, hence the fact that you guys invited me on the podcast.

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I hope that people listening are entertained and I would hope that somebody, when they're talking to me, can tell a good story.

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There's a lot of girls that I go out with that cannot, and I would say the vast majority cannot.

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I was going to say it's surprising how many people have no personality don't know how to ask questions, don't know how to engage in conversation and are just boring AF.

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Well, it's because I think, all the engagement now is online.

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People aren't engaging with each other in real life anymore.

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Well, people, don't ask questions, like the amount of people that have said to me wow, you're really good at asking questions, like you really seem to want to know the answers, and I'm like, yeah, of course I do, otherwise I wouldn't ask the bloody questions, but I guess people just don't ask that's see, that's a problem, that's a hot button topic for me, obviously, and I mentioned that a few times.

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But I mean, I work where I host podcasts and I host shows.

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I got.

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That's what you do for a living.

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I want to well that's.

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That's a side part of my job, and I actually got a chance to host a show on cable tv this fall, this past fall on CBS sports network, which is great.

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I mean, it was like a check it off the bucket list.

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I used to do stuff here in local Phoenix for a few years on air, which is great, both in TV and radio.

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I know how to ask questions.

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My ultimate nightmare is when a date turns into an interview session and I mean, listen, you guys have interviewed enough people where some people I'm sure will come on and they won't give you satisfactory answers and you're like, oh God, how are we going to get through this hour with?

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Just so?

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That's kind of how I feel about a date and you and like I just put like a timer in my head like I got to get through one drink milk, this one drink, call for the bill, get out of here, say never again, right?

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The other problem that I have just in general, I don't like to end things.

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I feel guilty.

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I like to.

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Maybe I just I'm a glutton for punishment that I would rather the girl end it.

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So then I don't have any idea in my head of did I make a mistake?

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So you don't have no regrets.

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Correct.

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Because you don't have control of ending the relationship.

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It's on her.

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So what is your longest relationship?

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My longest relationship six months and I'm not proud of it.

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She's a great girl, but I'm not proud of saying that Did that's it's not.

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No, she's a great girl, but I'm not proud of saying that.

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I mean that's, Did she end it?

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Did you end it?

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She ended it Okay, why?

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Because?

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my sports got in the way.

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We'll just say that, oh, and I learned from it.

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But I I mean she and she married a great guy by all accounts, and you know I wish her well and you, yeah, I did not.

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I really thought she might've been the one and I probably screwed that one up and you know, no regrets, I think it worked out for her and not for me, but I'll figure it out.

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So you're not scared of commitment.

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You want a long-term relationship.

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Oh, you bet I just that's my biggest red flag when you ask what you know.

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If you were to say what's your red flag?

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The fact that my longest relationship is is a short period of time and I'm not proud of it, but I will.

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I'll own two things right.

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I'll own three things right off the bat.

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When I talk to a girl.

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First of all, I am not very cultured, so I'll own that.

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I'm not.

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I've never been to Europe, like I'm just not a traveler.

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You know a lot of girls say, oh, I love to go travel.

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I mean you know number two I'm a picky eater.

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Um, you know I'll go wherever.

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Just let me order my basic stuff, like let me get my chicken strips and cheese pizza.

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You nailed it, jess.

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I mean, it's like I had a roommate like that in college chicken caesar salad, throw it in there.

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I mean, those are my three staples, and I would say number three, or the fact that my is the fact that my longest relationship is six months, and it's just not something that you know I'm proud of, hey it's better than cheating on your ex-spouse.

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I would never do that.

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And that's the thing about it, lindsay.

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It's like I don't want to be with somebody where I would ever have the temptation.

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Not that I'm a player, and God knows, I'm the opposite of a player but I would never cheat, because that's my biggest fear on the I know that, I know that I know of and that's okay.

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I mean, I listen, I'm not with the girls long enough for them to see that quickly anyways, you know.

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But you know it's hard because I would rather just be honest with somebody and if that turns, if that turns someone off, that, oh, you haven't been in a relationship.

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I had one girl that was like freaked out about it.

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Okay, fine, that's, that's good.

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Yeah, I, I'd rather than get out early and then you definitely won't have to worry about that.

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What are your hobbies?

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Sports and sports.

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I mean I love watching sports, I love going out with friends, I love to play golf, I love to be around people.

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I think that's really important for me.

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Whatever I'm doing, being with people is more fun and having dialogue and making you know, having laughs and making memories.

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I love going to sporting events, for example, but going by myself I've never done it, because it's not the same as when you go with other people and can share those memories with them.

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That's really what's important to me.

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So, yeah, I'm kind of a basic guy, but yeah, I mean I love to just spend time with other people and do whatever.

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Now can I talk about other things in sports?

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Sure, I'm fairly well-rounded, I think about that, but that's a drawback of mine that I need to work on.

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And when I'm with a girl, I'd like her to kind of help expand my horizon.

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I think that's great, that you can admit your faults or your beige flags and you own them and you don't try to hide them.

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I think that shows a lot.

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Do you want a girl that's into sports also, or are you okay with having a girl that maybe doesn't really like sports but is open to learning about them through you?

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I'm.

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That's a great question.

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So and I've kind of debated this going over the years I would sure I'd love a girl that can go hit the hit the golf course with me.

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That'd be, that'd be awesome.

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But I'm also not going to rule out somebody that says, hey, you do your thing, I'm going to do my thing.

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Great, you know, obviously there are sacrifices that I have to make.

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I can't go down to every U of a football game Like I used to for the last 20 years.

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If I'm going to be with somebody and and and stay committed right Like I have to, I have to make sacrifices and I'm absolutely willing to do that.

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So do you have any crazy unique talents or things people don't know about?

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you Listen, I what you see is what you get with me I love to do.

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You know, my biggest thing is to be on air and I love it and I think that's something that at my job now it was not anywhere related to what I do I've always done it, you know, in the past year, as I think I told you, I have a TV background here in town, I have a radio background here in town and I just wanted to kind of get into it and just that gives me my rush.

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Some people like to get drunk or high all the time.

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I love to be in front of a camera and a microphone and talk to people.

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That is kind of my thing.

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So I don't know if that's a hidden talent, but I would say that that's a talent of mine that I'm proud of.

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I'm ready for it.

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All right, today's listener question Okay, I'm starting to feel like the human equivalent of a free trial Fun for one night, but no one ever sticks around for the full subscription.

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I've been on a string of first dates that seem to go great Laughs, flirty vibes, even let's do this again promises, and then nothing.

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No second date, just radio silence or vague been busy texts.

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Is there an invisible red flag I'm waving, or is this just the new normal in dating?

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that makes me feel sad.

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You're not the free trial, you're the full premium package.

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Baby oh, I think it also depends on there's I like our?

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Is this person, you know, sleeping with these people on the first date?

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He needs to self-reflect.

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Is he doing something?

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Yeah, yeah, like I need a little bit more information than this?

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Is he trying too hard?

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Maybe, mm-hmm, maybe he needs to just be himself.

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Or is it a she, or is it a she.

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There's not a name on this one.

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We don't know if that's a no, there wasn't a name, it was an anonymous one.

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Here would be my thing, and we'll see if you two agree with this.

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I feel like when I go on a date, I got to earn it, whatever it is Like I have to earn to move along the line, let's say and if I don't earn it, then kick me out.

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I think that's a key.

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Like a girl that is willing to write away is not necessarily long-term.

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I don't look at that as much of a long-term thing.

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It's happened with people, but I would say it seems more rare than not Right Interesting.

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And you had made a comment about people dating outside of their league.

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Is this person a two trying to date a 20?

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I don't know, Maybe maybe them, maybe yeah, because they say you're supposed to date.

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Like what is it within, within two below, or two above, like it's like you're supposed to, but you know what personality can take you from a two to a ten right?

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no can't?

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you don't think so.

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I've dated a guy that was probably a one, but his personality was hilarious.

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He made me laugh so hard so it took him to like an eight or nine in your eyes.

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It did, but objectively to the general public it did not, is it?

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I think that's what you're saying, I mean listen.

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I know realistically what I think I can get and what I should get.

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And have I dated above that before?

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Yeah, but I mean not overly common.

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But I also don't want to date below what I feel is.

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You know, let's say I put myself kind of in the middle.

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Uh, I, but I also don't want to date below what I feel is, you know, let's say I put myself kind of in the middle.

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I don't want to go for a two, like that doesn't make me feel good.

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But I also I'm not getting a nine either, like that's just not happening, like I get it.

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Yeah, I think you need to just keep showing up, be yourself, and then I feel the right one will come along and won't ghost you right.

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Yeah, just takes out one right person, it's a numbers.

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It's a numbers game, obviously, as we've learned today there's a lid for every pot, so I want to discuss these funny ways to break up.

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I saw this on reddit.

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There was a discussion, so you can say it's not me, it's you, you.

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Seinfeldism.

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Dear baby, welcome to Splitsville Population you.

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Nobody ever would do that Within reason.

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Come on.

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Telling them the relationship was worse than the Big Bang Theory.

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I don't watch the Big Bang Theory.

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Is that a reference to?

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the show.

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Is it a reference to the show or is it a reference to the actual Big Bang Theory?

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Saying hey, baby, just going to go out and get some smokes, be right back.

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That's kind of mean.

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And then never come back.

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Yeah, savage Breaking up on April 1st, because they're going to think it's a joke, but it's not.

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Oh no, I kind of like that one now and I can get on board with it, because then you could go back on it and mean it keeps your options open that's true if you're not super sure about it.

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Yeah, I like that um, steal all their stuff and run away that's not cool no, that's that's theft, I will see you, I will burn your car, take an egg out from the fridge and tell them it represents your relationship, then smash the egg on his face.

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Who does these?

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Where did this list come from?

00:27:53.813 --> 00:27:54.635
Oh, it's from Reddit.

00:27:54.635 --> 00:27:55.557
Oh, it's a Reddit thread.

00:27:55.557 --> 00:27:59.938
If they're cool with it, throw a party and invite all your mutual friends.

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Then at the party state it's a breakup party.

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That is so bad that's mean that's mean I would be too Propose.

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and then, no matter what the response is, you say no and walk away.

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No, that's bad.

00:28:15.962 --> 00:28:17.723
Who does these things?

00:28:17.723 --> 00:28:18.545
Who would say these things?

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I hope these are just jokes.

00:28:19.846 --> 00:28:25.391
I know, I remember the first.

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I remember breaking up with my high school boyfriend and I remember it like it was yesterday, because I remember calling him to tell him that we needed to talk and then going and I think his mom answered the door and I had to ask if he was home and then she asked if I wanted to come in and I said no and I broke up with him on the front porch of his house.

00:28:46.150 --> 00:28:49.181
Well, at least you didn't go in, so that's okay, I know.

00:28:49.201 --> 00:28:56.059
It's courteous, I know, I know, I know I just it, breaking up is hard.

00:28:56.059 --> 00:28:58.314
It's hard to have that conversation.

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That's why there's a song about it.

00:28:59.557 --> 00:29:01.604
Breaking up is hard to do.

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I remember one time my first boyfriend.

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I feel terrible.

00:29:05.154 --> 00:29:09.313
We were together for a couple years and I broke up with him in an email who does that?

00:29:09.353 --> 00:29:10.194
you did who does who?

00:29:10.214 --> 00:29:11.017
does that?

00:29:11.498 --> 00:29:12.460
I've always broken up in person.

00:29:12.460 --> 00:29:16.002
I've never broken up over email and text.

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You're good about that.

00:29:16.809 --> 00:29:19.336
You're okay with confrontation.

00:29:19.436 --> 00:29:33.654
I hate confrontation, so here's a question for both of you what's the rule on how long you have to be going out with somebody, like you can do it over text if you go on this many dates and this happens, versus doing it in person or on the phone after this happens?

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Do you have a rule on that?

00:29:37.171 --> 00:29:38.094
That's a good question.

00:29:38.094 --> 00:29:50.321
It is a good question I think you have to, for I mean, if you've only been on like a handful of dates and you primarily, I think it depends on your primary mode of communication.

00:29:50.321 --> 00:29:57.941
If you've primarily been texting with this person and you've only been on a handful of dates, I think a text message is appropriate.

00:29:57.941 --> 00:30:08.016
If you primarily speak on the phone and you've been on a handful of dates, I think a voice conversation, a phone call is appropriate.

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But if you've established a relationship where you're exclusive with each other, I think you have to do it in person.

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I think that's fair.

00:30:16.320 --> 00:30:22.147
I think if you're my, my cutoff is if you're sleeping with somebody, then it's kind of a difference.

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Also it should be in person.

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But if it's not, if it's just, PG 13,.

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You know we haven't gotten to rated our stuff yet.

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You can probably get away with the other stuff, stuff.

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I just I'd rather they do it to me over text.

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Uh, don't, don't ghost.

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Anybody who ghosts oh yeah, I am not a.

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I am not a.

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I will say this I will say this.

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This is one.

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A couple years ago, um, I was going out with this girl and everything was, I thought, was going well, but she wouldn't commit.

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And one day I went over to her house and she we were talking on the phone every night and she was changing the sheets and I was like no big deal and I went over.

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A couple days later she was changing the sheets again and I'm thinking who changes their?

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Sheets on a king bed twice in three days Nobody in the room.

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I guess she wets the bed or something.00:31:03.455 --> 00:31:04.460


I don't know.00:31:04.809 --> 00:31:11.481


She wets the bed, so the next week I call her at a normal time of nine o'clock or 9 15 at night, whatever.00:31:11.481 --> 00:31:15.214


She didn't answer and didn't get back to me until noon the next day.00:31:15.214 --> 00:31:18.851


So later that week we went out and she tried to play it off.00:31:18.851 --> 00:31:23.843


Normally I was like wait a second, you're totally doing something with somebody else, I am.00:31:24.111 --> 00:31:28.711


She said at least she admitted it so finally another week or two and I was like I can't do this anymore.00:31:28.711 --> 00:31:30.575


I said, hey, let's take some time apart.00:31:30.575 --> 00:31:33.440


Um, you know, I hope we'll talk in a few days.00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.792


Never talked to her again and I guess she had a baby with the other guy so it worked out for her.00:31:36.834 --> 00:31:58.675


I mean, I mean so, but if you're not willing to commit, I don't need to be competition exactly but it was very amicable, like we had a nice like breakup thing, but it was like kind of unofficial and I was good with that, like that's good with that so question you go on a date and you feel that it's not going to go anywhere, do you let them know if, even if it's just been one day, do you let them know?00:31:58.675 --> 00:32:04.859


Hey, you know I had a great time, but I just don't see this going anywhere so I will never initiate that.00:32:05.140 --> 00:32:06.103


I think it's messed up.00:32:06.103 --> 00:32:12.943


And so I've had one girl that I remember after three days of not responding to me and like came out of nowhere with that, I assumed you were gone.00:32:12.943 --> 00:32:13.925


I don't need to know that.00:32:13.925 --> 00:32:14.627


You know she.00:32:14.627 --> 00:32:16.251


Basically I'm not attracted to you in this.00:32:16.251 --> 00:32:18.660


What where the hell did that come from?00:32:18.660 --> 00:32:26.259


Uh no, if somebody wants to keep going out again, I will try to just like not be as responsive and then let it fizzle.00:32:26.641 --> 00:32:35.631


And if they don't get the hint from there, then you have to be outward with it that's how I, but I know that a lot of people nowadays are letting people know right away, and I think that's kind of respectful and good.00:32:35.631 --> 00:32:40.571


I would want to know rather than for my hopes to be kept up or for me to keep reaching out to them.00:32:40.893 --> 00:32:41.575


I typically do.00:32:41.575 --> 00:32:53.799


If I go out with someone and they text me the next day and are like hey had a really great time, I'd really love to go out again, I will immediately say you know, I had a great time too.00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:55.021


Thank you for the invite.00:32:55.021 --> 00:32:55.962


I just didn't feel.00:32:55.962 --> 00:32:58.045


I don't think I felt the same way that you did.00:33:03.970 --> 00:33:06.296


I think I would rather not go out a second time, but it was great to meet you and I wish you luck.00:33:06.296 --> 00:33:11.868


And see, I respect that you know as somebody who's generally you know, more often than not having to be on the wrong end of that, yeah, I mean otherwise you just don't.00:33:11.868 --> 00:33:18.020


You know, you don't respond to each other in that set, but I would rather you be honest with me than you know some other crap.00:33:18.020 --> 00:33:21.773


Like one girl I went out with last year and we, we kissed on the second date.00:33:21.773 --> 00:33:25.112


I'm thinking, okay, great, I text her, sure she texts me.00:33:25.112 --> 00:33:30.505


When she and I was like, are you still okay?00:33:30.505 --> 00:33:32.270


And then she finally responded three days later.00:33:32.270 --> 00:33:33.173


I'm not into it.00:33:33.173 --> 00:33:35.111


You couldn't have said that like one day afterwards.00:33:35.332 --> 00:33:36.626


Right, exactly Like.00:33:36.626 --> 00:33:38.373


Just put me out of my misery early, yeah.00:33:38.785 --> 00:33:41.732


One girl I went out with late last year.00:33:41.732 --> 00:33:43.636


Everything was like this girl and I were.00:33:43.636 --> 00:33:48.829


I'm big on the and you girls are going to roll your eyes with this, big on the platitudes.00:33:48.829 --> 00:33:50.295


Oh, you're so great.00:33:50.295 --> 00:33:51.596


And I say what I feel.00:33:51.596 --> 00:33:53.138


Like you know, I wear my heart on my sleeve.00:33:53.138 --> 00:33:55.141


Oh, you know, you're wonderful.00:33:55.141 --> 00:33:58.494


So like she was doing the same to me, which is, you know, weird.00:33:58.494 --> 00:34:00.009


So everything was going great.00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:03.115


Third day we went out to watch a game and her mom came.00:34:03.115 --> 00:34:08.086


She's like I'm so excited to see you, I can't wait Da-da-da-da.00:34:08.086 --> 00:34:08.487


Monday.00:34:08.487 --> 00:34:12.269


We watched the game on Monday night and Tuesday.00:34:12.269 --> 00:34:14.652


She was very sinister in text.00:34:14.652 --> 00:34:20.416


Tuesday night, what I paid for the dinner with her and the mom and it still got me an X.00:34:20.454 --> 00:34:22.277


Do you think the mom didn't approve?00:34:22.277 --> 00:34:22.697


Maybe?00:34:22.737 --> 00:34:23.797


And I'm usually great with parents.00:34:24.077 --> 00:34:26.840


Come on how can the mom not approve of this?00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:28.121


You're so personable.00:34:28.420 --> 00:34:29.400


I thought I was great.00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:30.902


There was nothing.00:34:30.902 --> 00:34:31.563


I thought I did wrong.00:34:33.324 --> 00:34:33.766


Wow, that's weird.00:34:33.786 --> 00:34:34.851


But I got X'd by the mom, I think.00:34:35.186 --> 00:34:39.532


I wonder if she always brings the mother on the third date to kind of be the make or break decision.00:34:39.634 --> 00:34:40.094


As a test.00:34:40.094 --> 00:34:41.099


I think it's terrible.00:34:41.099 --> 00:34:41.641


Don't do that.00:34:41.802 --> 00:34:42.505


Anybody listening out there?00:34:42.865 --> 00:34:44.672


wait till, like, the sixth date, don't do it on the third.00:34:44.873 --> 00:34:45.114


Right.00:34:45.114 --> 00:34:57.179


The third even like I know, but bringing bringing your mom along on any date before your mom is kind of weird before you're like in a relationship.00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:58.485


In a relationship, I'm not kissing her in front of her mom.00:34:58.485 --> 00:35:11.992


Yeah, I'm not putting on the pda not that I'm big on pda but like I'm not even doing anything, yeah with a mom sitting, like the mom's sitting this far from me where you are, lindsey like yeah, what am I supposed to do here, bringing the mom on the third date?00:35:12.032 --> 00:35:20.534


I don know because if I really like a guy and we really have a connection and I feel comfortable, and the third date my mom was like hey, I'm in town, I'm going to be in the area, can I join you for dinner?00:35:20.534 --> 00:35:21.757


I'd be fine with it.00:35:21.757 --> 00:35:23.110


I'd be like, sure, why not?00:35:23.110 --> 00:35:27.030


You think that's kind of off.00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:33.099


On a third date with connections, they're like what, my mom's super cool and they'd be drinking with us.00:35:33.099 --> 00:35:37.342


I don't know, I don't think it's weird because I'm so close to my family, but you know what?00:35:37.342 --> 00:35:38.429


There probably wouldn't be a fourth date.00:35:38.429 --> 00:35:39.456


He'd probably be like.00:35:39.536 --> 00:35:47.849


I don't think it has anything to do with being close with your family, because I'm very close with my family too and I wouldn't want my mom on a first, on a third, a third date with with me.00:35:47.909 --> 00:35:51.315


I don't think no, it would have to be months, it would.00:35:51.315 --> 00:35:53.077


It's the same for me.00:35:53.077 --> 00:35:54.606


It doesn't matter how great things are going.00:35:54.626 --> 00:35:57.331


Same for me, yeah I guess I was different.00:35:57.331 --> 00:36:01.447


I yeah, you know, maybe like a couple weeks of dating continuously.00:36:01.447 --> 00:36:05.246


If my family were having a get together, I'd be like, come on bye, meet the crazy crew.00:36:05.246 --> 00:36:10.304


Yeah, that's why I was single for 10 years, but wait, when do you introduce friends?00:36:10.606 --> 00:36:12.130


like, at what point do you bring now?00:36:12.130 --> 00:36:19.514


Now, I've done it different ways, but what are your golden rules, both of you, on when you would bring friends around with a new person?00:36:21.706 --> 00:36:22.568


I'm all about.00:36:22.568 --> 00:36:37.291


You know, even after the first date, if you're having a great time and you decide to go to a nightcap and your friends are there, I'm all for that same night if it's going well, friends, you know I don't have a golden rule, necessarily for friends.00:36:38.193 --> 00:36:41.822


It I just maybe change how I introduce the person.00:36:41.822 --> 00:36:49.952


I'm like, oh, this is someone that we've gone out on a couple dates and we're just stopping to to grab a drink and thought we'd say hi, you know what I mean.00:36:49.952 --> 00:37:00.869


But like in to introduce someone as your significant other to your friends or to bring them to like a thanksgiving or a christmas dinner, something like that, with your friends.00:37:00.869 --> 00:37:01.873


That's different.00:37:01.873 --> 00:37:02.815


That I need.00:37:02.815 --> 00:37:05.764


That needs to be a like relationship status.00:37:05.764 --> 00:37:06.646


What is your view?00:37:07.367 --> 00:37:11.157


uh, my view is let's take a little time here uh, let's not let's.00:37:11.157 --> 00:37:13.610


I mean I would say at least a month or month and a half.00:37:13.610 --> 00:37:19.431


Listen, I'm used to the sky falling Like I'm waiting for the ship to sink.00:37:19.431 --> 00:37:25.134


I know I just I mean I just the way that I go about things, I just wait for.00:37:25.134 --> 00:37:37.791


I mean all this, all these dumb stories, adults and babies, and I mean just I just wait.00:37:37.791 --> 00:37:39.438


The mothers like come on, like getting my the wrong name on a card.00:37:39.458 --> 00:37:40.201


I just wait for something to go wrong.00:37:40.201 --> 00:37:41.184


So maybe I'm jaded when it comes to everything.00:37:41.184 --> 00:37:46.824


I think my mentality was this I had been on so many bad first dates that didn't go anywhere.00:37:46.824 --> 00:37:54.027


I kind of stopped caring like, whatever, I'll introduce them to my friends, it's probably not going to work out anyways, but if it does great.00:37:54.027 --> 00:37:59.791


I just stopped really thinking too much into things and kind of just went with the flow and the thing is is I don't want.00:38:00.012 --> 00:38:07.869


I don't want to waste my friends time meeting people that aren't gonna be around.00:38:07.869 --> 00:38:37.190


So it's like if we happen to run into friends or if friends are out and we're going to be out too, okay, let's go grab a drink or whatever when things are new, but I'm not going to sit down and introduce someone that I'm casually dating to my friends more so out of respect for my friends' time and energy, because I don't want them to have to be constantly introduced to someone new like oh, who's she bringing around this?00:38:37.291 --> 00:38:38.253


month or whatever.00:38:38.253 --> 00:38:39.074


You know what I mean.00:38:39.074 --> 00:38:46.074


And the gossip too, exactly the rumor mill, yeah, listen, I partake in it and I always like to be, you know, some.00:38:46.074 --> 00:38:47.458


I like to know what's going on.00:38:47.458 --> 00:38:55.713


I'd rather talk about others than myself, but you know, honestly, like I don't need to give them fodder until it's somebody.00:38:55.713 --> 00:39:00.809


Now, one of the girls that I went out with, you know, last year I brought around a buddy and he's like that girl's terrible, get rid of her.00:39:00.809 --> 00:39:03.697


Right, she's awful, get rid of her.00:39:03.697 --> 00:39:05.146


And so I ended up.00:39:05.146 --> 00:39:07.188


You know it was gone sooner.00:39:07.188 --> 00:39:10.632


So I also don't want that influence, I want to be able to make the judgment on my own.00:39:10.672 --> 00:39:11.574


That is a good point.00:39:11.574 --> 00:39:14.637


Yeah, yeah, yeah, cause friends usually have a lot to say.00:39:15.018 --> 00:39:22.646


And, and I just you know, is everybody, and I'm not doubting cause that friend ended up being right but, like, do people have the right motivations for me?00:39:22.646 --> 00:39:30.516


Are they saying, you know, I know that I will be honest with somebody as best I can, but are they going to do the same with me?00:39:30.516 --> 00:39:32.179


Are they going to BS me?00:39:32.179 --> 00:39:32.739


I don't know.00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:33.179


Yeah.00:39:33.179 --> 00:39:37.485


Now it's time for the celebrity cut, where we marinate in the juices of the celebrities.00:39:37.485 --> 00:39:39.289


So do you guys know Alex Cooper?00:39:39.289 --> 00:39:40.653


Yeah, yeah.00:39:40.653 --> 00:39:44.175


So she's one woman that gets a lot of hate, which I don't understand.00:39:44.175 --> 00:39:48.550


I find myself like watching all of her social clips and watching them to the end.00:39:48.766 --> 00:39:49.811


She's a podcast host.00:39:57.264 --> 00:39:57.420


You know, to the end.00:39:57.349 --> 00:39:57.516


She's a podcast host.00:39:57.516 --> 00:39:57.681


You know who she is.00:39:57.681 --> 00:39:57.728


Call her daddy.00:39:57.728 --> 00:39:57.764


Yeah, I've seen her.00:39:57.764 --> 00:39:57.940


Yeah, isn't that the?00:39:57.869 --> 00:39:59.094


number one female podcast, I think.00:39:59.094 --> 00:40:02.601


So she got like a multi-million dollar deal from spotify she's and she's like has an empire now she owns the production company.00:40:02.530 --> 00:40:03.115


She owns a hydration company.00:40:03.115 --> 00:40:04.016


She is on fire.00:40:04.016 --> 00:40:08.327


But so, yeah, I see a lot of these videos like I don't get why everyone likes alex cooper.00:40:08.327 --> 00:40:09.530


She's terrible, I think.00:40:09.530 --> 00:40:12.057


I think she's great, I think she's goofy.00:40:12.057 --> 00:40:14.625


She's authentically herself.00:40:14.625 --> 00:40:15.688


She doesn't.00:40:15.688 --> 00:40:16.769


She's self-deprecating.00:40:16.769 --> 00:40:20.128


She doesn't try to be perfect all the time, which I love anyhow.00:40:20.128 --> 00:40:21.856


Did you see the billboard that she came out with?00:40:21.856 --> 00:40:23.445


It's caused a lot of controversy.00:40:23.445 --> 00:40:27.016


So coachella is it coachella or stagecoach?00:40:27.016 --> 00:40:28.161


Whatever is coming up?00:40:28.161 --> 00:40:30.489


So she wanted to advertise her hydration water.00:40:30.489 --> 00:40:42.664


So she did this big billboard and it's her covered in water, in a bikini top, with her hydration water covering her boobs, and the caption is holy water, like play on words, but it caused an uproar.00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:45.902


Oh, the religious folks were upset.00:40:45.922 --> 00:40:48.632


It's thirsty, it's a thirsty, no pun intended.00:40:48.773 --> 00:40:51.152


It is Like holy moly, holy water.00:40:54.025 --> 00:40:56.500


I mean, she did it on purpose to get people talking and I think it did come out around Easter Sunday.00:40:56.500 --> 00:40:57.103


Yeah, yeah.00:40:57.505 --> 00:40:58.690


Well, and then the Pope died.00:40:59.126 --> 00:41:02.594


Oh my God, bad timing it probably was like very bad timing.00:41:03.105 --> 00:41:04.670


Well, I mean, obviously she didn't know that.00:41:04.851 --> 00:41:05.333


Exactly.00:41:06.025 --> 00:41:07.286


But is that the like?00:41:07.286 --> 00:41:10.951


Obviously every guy is like oh yeah, that's great, but every girl, every guy is like oh yeah, that's great.00:41:10.951 --> 00:41:12.112


What do you expect them to say?00:41:12.492 --> 00:41:13.594


And you know it got everyone talking.00:41:13.594 --> 00:41:15.836


It got us talking about it on the podcast.00:41:15.836 --> 00:41:17.018


Yeah, I don't know.00:41:17.498 --> 00:41:18.699


Publicity is good publicity.00:41:18.699 --> 00:41:19.981


Right exactly, and that's the thing.00:41:19.981 --> 00:41:26.048


Like people want to hate on everything, and it's like everybody.00:41:26.048 --> 00:41:32.695


With social media, everybody can have an opinion, everybody can get online and say whatever they want, and so it's just like who cares?00:41:32.755 --> 00:41:34.237


She's the one laughing all the way to the bank.00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:35.882


Exactly, and I think that's the thing.00:41:36.465 --> 00:41:41.474


We kind of talked about this before the podcast, but how do you feel when you read comments?00:41:41.474 --> 00:41:44.413


Because I do it with my job.00:41:44.413 --> 00:41:49.648


I'll do videos and they'll be up on TikTok or Instagram for my company or for online.00:41:49.648 --> 00:41:56.016


And yeah, I mean people say this guy sucks, this guy's an idiot, this guy's a moron.00:41:56.344 --> 00:41:57.451


We get it all the time.00:41:57.451 --> 00:41:59.632


People call us old ugly.00:41:59.632 --> 00:42:01.269


We look like men.00:42:01.269 --> 00:42:02.293


Someone called me a dog.00:42:02.293 --> 00:42:04.032


Someone called me an unseasoned chicken.00:42:05.826 --> 00:42:07.030


Why would people do like?00:42:07.150 --> 00:42:09.547


you know and you know what the first episode we had.00:42:09.547 --> 00:42:11.851


When we got all those negative comments, I did cry.00:42:11.851 --> 00:42:13.373


I remember sitting there in tears.00:42:13.373 --> 00:42:15.115


I don't know if I can do this podcast anymore.00:42:15.115 --> 00:42:17.420


We need to hire a younger prettier host.00:42:18.764 --> 00:42:19.445


But like what are you doing?00:42:19.445 --> 00:42:25.155


Like if you're sitting at home commenting comments on strangers' posts.00:42:25.155 --> 00:42:29.170


Like I'm sorry, but you are bottom of the barrel Like what are you doing?00:42:29.269 --> 00:42:29.853


Bottom of the barrel.00:42:34.204 --> 00:42:38.094


Like you don't have anything better to do with your time than sit online behind a computer and write negative things about people Gross.00:42:38.114 --> 00:42:38.936


Well, I think that's it.00:42:38.936 --> 00:42:44.976


You know, a lot of people can hide behind a keyboard, and you know, I just would rather not say something.00:42:44.976 --> 00:42:47.233


You know we all will read something and be like what is that?00:42:47.233 --> 00:42:48.385


But I don't need to trash somebody.00:42:48.385 --> 00:42:49.166


Yeah, that doesn crash somebody.00:42:49.166 --> 00:42:49.286


Yeah.00:42:49.286 --> 00:42:50.467


It doesn't make anybody feel better.00:42:50.568 --> 00:43:00.137


Yeah, if you think my pics suck, Just keep scrolling Like do you need to like and to comment on someone's looks to say they're ugly or they're old, like who does that Like?00:43:00.137 --> 00:43:04.581


I want to make people feel good, feel better about themselves, not feel bad and cry.00:43:04.581 --> 00:43:06.322


But I will say I've never cried since.00:43:14.204 --> 00:43:14.887


Cause now I'm so numb to it?00:43:14.887 --> 00:43:15.389


Cause we bad comment.00:43:15.389 --> 00:43:16.233


Do you really just laugh, do you really?00:43:16.233 --> 00:43:24.983


Yeah, I just at this point, like I like to read them because and I, maybe it's a glutton for punishment, maybe it's kind of like, as I talk about when I would rather the girl get rid of me versus vice versa I, I just I like to like I got.00:43:24.983 --> 00:43:25.887


I want to see what people are.00:43:25.887 --> 00:43:29.699


Like somebody says that guy's ugly okay, oh well, I mean like I get.00:43:29.699 --> 00:43:29.840


It.00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:35.010


It's very rare that I will respond and say something I don't like out and out lies.00:43:35.344 --> 00:43:39.632


That's what you know, if you know me personally, don't be well.00:43:39.632 --> 00:43:44.331


I mean, just like I'm a good guy, I do things the right way.00:43:44.331 --> 00:43:47.652


You want to trash my pics and say they suck, I guess.00:43:47.652 --> 00:43:51.112


Whatever for you, but don't personal attacks like that.00:43:51.112 --> 00:43:54.244


You people have problems when they do that.00:43:54.284 --> 00:43:55.306


You know what's funny is.00:43:55.306 --> 00:44:06.710


So, tiktok, they have this filter now where they filter all the negative comments and I'll go through and say we filtered these comments for you, but you can approve them if you want and I go through and it's all trashing me.00:44:06.710 --> 00:44:13.536


You know you're ugly or this, but accept, accept, accept, except because the more comments the better, better, right, because it's engagement, the more engagement.00:44:13.795 --> 00:44:29.271


Do people not realize that even by them commenting negatively or saying things that are just outlandish and ridiculous, they're driving the engagement and they're actually creating more success for the people that they're trying to put down?00:44:29.271 --> 00:44:29.972


They help us.00:44:29.972 --> 00:44:45.273


Exactly, and so it's like if people had a an ounce of common sense, they'd realize that they would be doing more damage by not commenting anything and just continuing to scroll and not spending time watching the video.00:44:46.376 --> 00:44:52.509


People are stupid I have this comment that I cut and paste on my youtube and it's like thank you so much for taking the time to comment.00:44:52.509 --> 00:44:54.297


This really helps our numbers and our statistics and really on our YouTube, and it's like thank you so much for taking the time to comment.00:44:54.297 --> 00:44:55.715


This really helps our numbers and our statistics and really helps our show grow.00:44:55.715 --> 00:44:56.909


So we appreciate you.00:44:58.987 --> 00:44:59.992


I mean to each their own.00:44:59.992 --> 00:45:05.045


Do you find that Instagram comments are more hateful than TikTok?00:45:05.164 --> 00:45:06.230


Oh, I think TikTok's way worse.00:45:06.565 --> 00:45:07.626


TikTok has been way worse.00:45:07.626 --> 00:45:08.867


Tiktok's been worse for us.00:45:08.867 --> 00:45:09.628


For us, yeah.00:45:09.668 --> 00:45:12.931


Interesting I found Instagram to be on videos.00:45:12.931 --> 00:45:21.581


Now I don't read TikTok gets more engagement, so I don't read as many, but just in the top 20 that I'll look at, Instagram are a lot worse to me.00:45:21.661 --> 00:45:27.215


Yeah, speaking of social media, while we got a little off track, have you ever slid into a girl's DMs?00:45:27.275 --> 00:45:28.458


No, I don't have that kind of game.00:45:28.585 --> 00:45:32.898


You don't know, you've never tried it uh, maybe I've tried.00:45:32.958 --> 00:45:37.403


It's been bad I've never I've never had good results like I'm not the type of guy who's gonna be able to slide in a girl cm.00:45:37.403 --> 00:45:39.009


It's just not gonna work like I.00:45:39.009 --> 00:45:40.853


I know my story you know, your limits, my.00:45:40.873 --> 00:45:44.411


Thing is about me is I feel like I'm good with repetitive exposure.00:45:44.411 --> 00:45:49.628


Like when I'm around somebody multiple times I grow kind of the lindsey playbook where they go from.00:45:49.628 --> 00:45:56.121


I don't want to say go from a one to a nine, but like I feel like I will go up in with repetitive exposure online.00:45:56.121 --> 00:45:59.108


You know it's like throwing a resume out to a job.00:45:59.108 --> 00:46:01.675


You know all they see is a few picks.00:46:01.675 --> 00:46:04.612


They're like nah, I get, so I will never be able to pull that off.00:46:04.612 --> 00:46:05.597


In my opinion.00:46:06.139 --> 00:46:11.797


Are you ready for the juiciest segment of the show, the meat grab you down for the challenge, up for the grab, willing to share?00:46:11.797 --> 00:46:13.557


Pick one if you dare it.00:46:13.557 --> 00:46:16.519


Better be a good one oh no okay, it better be a good one.00:46:16.539 --> 00:46:19.681


She says all right oh no, I just this is not good.00:46:19.681 --> 00:46:20.541


So do you have a hidden talent?00:46:20.541 --> 00:46:21.262


You already asked me that one.00:46:21.262 --> 00:46:22.905


Uh, let's try this again.00:46:22.905 --> 00:46:26.791


Okay, when was the last time you made someone else cry?00:46:26.791 --> 00:46:31.577


Oh, I actually don't.00:46:31.577 --> 00:46:33.541


I actually can't remember.00:46:33.541 --> 00:46:42.673


I mean, I remember, like an ex a while ago, where things were not going, were going sideways, but outside of that I try not to make people cry.00:46:42.673 --> 00:46:44.925


So this is another one, all right.00:46:44.985 --> 00:46:47.293


I was gonna say I don't know if I have an answer to that question.00:46:48.545 --> 00:46:52.536


Have you ever accidentally sent a sex to the wrong person?00:46:52.536 --> 00:46:57.193


Okay, so the answer is no, because I know how to.00:46:57.193 --> 00:46:59.137


I don't do dumb things drunk.00:46:59.137 --> 00:47:04.996


You know I'm not the biggest partier or drinker.00:47:04.996 --> 00:47:08.532


I mean, you know, go have a few here and there, but no, I'm not going to do anything that stupid.00:47:08.532 --> 00:47:10.610


But I'm very careful.00:47:10.610 --> 00:47:15.612


I've sent dumb texts to the wrong person, like this person sucks, and I accidentally sent it to them, to that person.00:47:15.692 --> 00:47:21.731


I've done that I don't know if that counts, but I've never sent like and also nobody wants sexting to me.00:47:22.192 --> 00:47:22.853


You don't sext.00:47:23.014 --> 00:47:25.298


No, I'd rather do it on the phone, Like do it on the oh yeah.00:47:26.226 --> 00:47:27.327


Talk about it.00:47:28.009 --> 00:47:29.070


Voices are key for me.00:47:29.070 --> 00:47:33.639


Obviously, you know work in a business where you hear people talk, so, yeah, I'd rather talk.00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.132


I'd rather hear somebody's voice Reading it over text.00:47:36.132 --> 00:47:37.684


It doesn't get the same.00:47:37.724 --> 00:47:40.972


Well, I wonder if people chat GPT their sex now.00:47:41.152 --> 00:47:41.853


Oh my God, Can you imagine?00:47:41.853 --> 00:47:43.918


Because people chat, gpt, everything.00:47:44.405 --> 00:47:50.538


So I didn't know what chat GPT was until, like I don't know, a few months ago, and so then I had it write my dating profile.00:47:50.538 --> 00:47:56.581


So here's something that's kind of cool so you can type in uh, eric Cohen sports line, because that's the company that worked for it.00:47:56.581 --> 00:47:57.902


I have articles that I've written.00:47:57.902 --> 00:48:04.012


Write a hinge dating profile in the style of Eric Cohen from sports line and it will do it there.00:48:04.032 --> 00:48:07.525


It's like a witty da da, da, da da and it, so it wrote my profile.00:48:07.525 --> 00:48:14.947


So then I picked it apart and wrote it my current hinge profile is wow, yeah, that is a good idea, that's not bad, it's got my style interesting.00:48:15.208 --> 00:48:19.038


Do you have any other questions, any other juicy things you want to share?00:48:19.125 --> 00:48:20.228


all right, let's just.00:48:20.228 --> 00:48:26.329


I'm just trying here like this to anyone who is out there, like me, who's just trying to find somebody.00:48:26.329 --> 00:48:32.208


It's not easy, but you always have to hope that the next one is going to be better than the last don't give up.00:48:32.327 --> 00:48:35.255


There's someone out there for you and it'll be worth the wait.00:48:35.295 --> 00:48:50.634


You got to kiss all those frogs before you meet a lot of a lot of what you know for the guys that are out there and and the girls just have a personality ask questions try to learn about the other person.00:48:50.653 --> 00:49:01.731


like you know, if I could, I'd ask both of you and find it like, obviously there's a finite time limit on this podcast, but, like I want to know, I'm an inquisitive person Find a way to ask questions.00:49:01.731 --> 00:49:10.853


Don't cognitively, over and over, send one-way texts where you're answering something but not trying to keep the conversation alive.00:49:10.853 --> 00:49:13.092


That's a common problem that I have.00:49:13.092 --> 00:49:14.248


But you know what?00:49:14.248 --> 00:49:25.034


Just gotta have faith, gotta give it a shot, gotta gotta have that enthusiasm going out for every time and, you know, let's hope that a good one is around the corner for me, somehow, some way, somewhere and there is, and we will find them.00:49:25.094 --> 00:49:27.925


so thank you so much for watching this week's episode of the meat market.00:49:27.925 --> 00:49:34.416


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Oh my God, I just totally got catfished.00:49:49.617 --> 00:49:51.666


He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.00:49:52.128 --> 00:49:56.755


So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.00:49:56.755 --> 00:49:58.878


His wife just reached out to me.