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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.
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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.
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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.
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His wife just reached out to me.
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Welcome to the Meat Market.
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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.
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We are your hosts.
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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is JC Welcome.
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Thank you.
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How are you, ladies, good?
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How are you?
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I'm doing awesome actually.
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So I have a question.
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You are from Canada.
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You live in the USA now.
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Are the Canadian men different from the American men?
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Well, they say, canadian men are nicer.
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They say, canadians in general are nicer.
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I mean come on on it's just like a stereotype.
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I mean I've met good and bad, whatever, but you know there's.
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There may be.
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I was in calgary for 15 years before moving here, so very rustic, kind of like denver oh, okay did you date much there in a couple, a little here and there.
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Yeah, I have a couple stories from canada, but yeah, but you know, I moved here and, with my dog, me and my dog decided to move to the US.
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So here I am are the men more aggressive here in America.
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More forward um, I don't know more aloof really more aloof, huh yeah, and maybe a little it depends.
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I think you know it depends.
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I've tried dating older, younger.
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I don't really have a stereotype of what age.
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You know there's a clicker if you have a vibe.
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Yeah, kind of go with it, you know, Do you typically make the first move or do you like the other guy to make the first move?
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I mean, come on, we all like somebody else to make a move right yeah.
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Right, but I'm not exactly shy, so you know I have no problems.
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I'll go out, travel by myself, do all that kind of stuff.
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I'm like if you want to do it, you got to just go out and do it.
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So, on the dating apps, do you ever reach out?
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Do you ever make the first move and take initiative to message?
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them first, I'll swipe in the right direction.
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I'll swipe and wait for that message to come in.
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But you know what?
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I've done both right.
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It's nice when you get a message.
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You know somebody takes the initiative, but I have no problems doing it as well, you know, and sometimes you meet a great person and sometimes you have a story for the friends.
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That's true.
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Do you have any go-to moves in person, like that you do when you're out, when you're traveling?
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I mean it's lame, but it's like you always buy somebody a drink Like I mean, that's classic right.
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Do you send a drink or do you ask hey, can I buy you a drink?
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I just like be observant as to what the person's drinking.
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Okay.
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And yeah, I usually buy them a drink or just hand them a drink.
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Okay, I think I'm past that point of just having a friend do it.
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You know, it's kind of like I don't know, I don't know kind of takes away from it.
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I think you know, when you're trying to get to know somebody and initially start up a conversation, so I kind of will do it myself.
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So you said you travel a lot.
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Do you have travel romances or travel one-night stands?
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A whole and every area counts, so you want the 411?
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Are you naughty on the road?
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You know, I've dated on the road.
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I had an ex that I met in denver and he moved here and then we moved there and then we moved back and then he moved back by himself, which is probably good.
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It wasn't definitely a good thing, but yeah, I mean, yeah, I figure it opens up your possibilities and opportunities, right, um, because I look after a few states and and, uh, have somebody that reports me from canada and so I travel a bit for work, which keeps it exciting.
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You make your own schedule.
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So it's that's just pros and cons, you know so you'd be open to a long distance relationship um, with an end in sight, you know like you have to have a conversation as to.
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You know, what does this look like long term, you know?
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But yeah, I mean, why, why would you not, I mean, if the right person's out there, I think so I have a question for you too.
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Are you members of the mile high club?
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What do you want?
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How did I not know this?
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I was gonna say it seems like it would be so uncomfortable and squished and like stressful right yeah, I feel like.
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I feel like the only way you could would be like on a private plane.
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You wouldn't, it would be hard on a commercial flight or on one of those dubai planes where they have the showers in there.
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So what is?
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like like to be on the mile high club.
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Do you have to go to the restroom?
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no, but I think you have to have sex Like it has to be.
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I don't think just like a quick finger bang counts, does it A quick blowy Well, a blowy might, a blowy might.
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Really I feel like.
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I feel like oral sex would count.
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Are you a member of the Mile High Club?
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No, no, okay.
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Yet, yes, yes, I know right, it's kind of on my bucket list, yeah, I don't even think I've fooled around on a plane, have you no?
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I think it's disrespectful to the people that you're sitting around.
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What if there's nobody beside you?
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Well, and that's the thing.
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If there's nobody beside you.
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It's one thing, but flights are so packed nowadays I feel like it's hard, that's true, they cram so many people in.
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Maybe if you're in first class it's empty.
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The lights are off.
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You have the blankets.
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You have a blanket.
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You have to have a blanket.
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You have to set the mood and light a candle.
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Well, you can't light a candle.
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You have to order champagne.
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Well for sure, right?
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I mean, like you're in first class, you need a little blanket.
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So, technically, if you're in first class, there's usually two of you right um, so yeah, yeah, I mean there's been a little hot and heavy in first class.
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Yeah, I think we should do a poll like what counts, what qualifies you for the mile high club, because just just you know first, second base I always assume it's having sex in the restroom, but there are other places to have sex on the fly, yeah you know that a lot of action happens in the cockpit.
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It's called the cockpit for a reason.
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There was this story going around online that there was some private flight that was designed just for that.
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It had like a bed in the back seat Really, and it was like yeah, it was like some sort of special like deal, so it was like the airborne Playboy Mansion.
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Kind of Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, kind kind of the gay equivalent would just be any circuit party.
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I've seen some interesting things on the dance floor that's funny, I have two actually at that I've I've been to a gay bar or two and the the people watching on the dance floor is definitely top notch do they, they get down.
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Oh, yeah, really.
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Oh yeah, my biggest fear is like what if there's people that you don't want to participate?
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Try.
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Right, exactly, exactly, like you can usually pick your person.
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but I mean, you know there's, you put it out there.
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It's kind of like, well, you kind of have to expect there's people going to want to join, it's true.
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So I don't know.
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To each their own.
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I'm not a prude, but that's just a little bit too much for me.
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I'll be the one looking from a distance, but I won't be the one participating.
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We tow the line of public acts but we don't cross it right, exactly, you've got to have some standards First class under the blanket on an airplane is one thing, but in the middle of the dance floor at the club is something totally different.
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It is.
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It is.
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So how do you meet people out here?
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Are you on the apps?
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Do you go to clubs?
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All of the above yeah, so how are the?
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apps.
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Oh my god it's.
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I mean today it's 2025, so you know, we're fortunate because there's a lot more ways to meet people.
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But there's a lot more ways to meet people, but there's a lot more BS out there.
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Right, there's like scammers and catfish and I mean I remember this one experience where I mean so many times, catfish, you meet somebody and it's like, wow, I bet you were hot when you were 30, 40 or 50.
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Like, all right, I mean maybe you should have used the picture in the last couple of centuries, you know, I mean maybe you should have used the picture in the last couple centuries, you know I mean you try to be nice, but there gets to be a point, right, you know like yeah, there's just stuff like that.
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So, yeah, I'm on the apps.
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You know I'm you got to take the good with the bad, you know.
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So when?
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that happens when you go on a date and you're clearly being catfished.
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Do you follow through with the date?
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Do you leave?
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Do you call them out?
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it depends how bad the catfish is, I think, or how interesting like if you're interested.
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Have you have any interest at all in maintaining like a friendship or any sort of relationship?
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How can you maintain a?
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friendship when you started off lying it's true, that's true, that is true, right, um, and I think, like when you do a catfish, it's kind of like you plan on meeting the person and we all age, like God, we have my age coming up, that's I'm going to hit a birthday, which I don't want.
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No more birthdays.
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But you know, we all get older, you know.
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So it's not about getting older, it's about just being honest and truthful.
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Yeah, you know, there's a, there's a you're going to find out some stuff along the way, don't start from a point of a lie, and I feel like at our age, we're done with the bullshit, we're done with the lying.
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We just want authenticity over the bullshit.
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Yeah, but like you've said before, people think they still look how they looked 10 years ago.
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We're in denial right exactly, exactly, exactly.
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I mean, I wear glasses sometimes too it's like but you know it's, it's good to, and you feel great about yourself sometimes and you know, look after oneself and do all the things right.
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We age, you know.
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Everybody ages, you know.
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So it just kind of it's one of those things, I think, when you're going out there and you're putting yourself out there, if, I'm being truthful and sincere, you expect, and we try to expect, that from others, but you don't always get it back Right.
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But when you put yourself out there, you got to know that there's going to be good and bad.
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It's kind of part of the game.
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I don't understand If I was single nowadays meeting people online.
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I would 100% FaceTime before I make the time and effort and energy to meet them in person.
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Wouldn't you face her before you meet in person?
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Absolutely, because it's such a quick easy.
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Yes, like, not a test.
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I shouldn't call it a test, but it kind of is a test.
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Yeah, like it's a test, you know what I mean.
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Like it's are, is this a real person and do they look like what they look like in their pictures?
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you take, it takes away the fraud aspect right and the catfish yes, I have a friend that met a guy that was out of state and he was gonna fly out to meet her and they hadn't facetimed yet.
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I'm like, you've never met in person.
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He's gonna fly out for a weekend.
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I think you should probably invest 10 minutes in a face time, right?
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it's not that hard, it's not there's no reason why you can't nowadays, right.
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So that's, that's one thing, definitely that I've incorporated into the dating scene.
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If it's an online is you know, as long as there's blue dots, when you text, I'm like yes yeah, do you judge?
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I mean, we all judge a little come on like.
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Let's be honest, it is um, but when there's green dots, I'm like all right.
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So it's either an android or a google number yeah, so yeah, but yeah or whatsapp
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if they want to whatsapp you.
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That's a complete block and delete.
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Like when you talk, you're talking to somebody and they're like and I'm like, I've learned this you just kind of go.
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Is there any other platforms you'd like to talk on or you want to chat somewhere else?
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Like, yeah, Do you have WhatsApp or Telegram?
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I'm like WhatsApp, Okay.
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Yeah, block, delete Right.
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Because we're on whatsapp exactly, or even like somewhere in the us.
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That's how I always feel too.
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Unless you're someone that I've met on an international trip, there's no reason for us to be chatting on whatsapp on an international trip in first class, which sounds exactly, exactly, exactly.
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The standards are rising after this episode so tell us about your last relationship.
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How long was that?
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Why did it end?
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my last relationship was close to two years, quite, not quite, but up up there close to two years, um, I it ended just because, well, I mean, he was a narcissist for the most part, um, and I seen early on, you know he was always the smartest person in the room, always right, you know.
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Yeah, so, but you know he had a lot of great qualities, great everybody, nobody's perfect, you know.
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So, thinking things will change.
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And, uh, he'd always argue and there was no affection, lack of intimacy, and he flipped it back that there was no affection lack of intimacy.
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And he flipped it back that it was my fault.
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I remember one time I was staying at my place and he came in and I went to say, hey, how's it going?
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And you know, haven't seen him for a bit.
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Go to give him a kiss.
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And he goes not right now, just because you want it, and he walks upstairs.
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He walks upstairs an hour later.
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He's like do you want that kiss?
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I'm like I want to fucking kiss what a dick, but lots of little examples like that.
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I mean.
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So it's just like yeah, so it ended for those type of reasons, you know, and uh, wish them well, just not for me, you know sounds like you dodged a bullet and you're better off without you know yeah, and my, like my family and everybody's like wow, like yeah, like I'm no longer with so-and-so, and they're like awesome, we're happy.
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Look, you could have told me this before.
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I feel like that always happens with family they see it way and friends they see it way before you do and it's like oh, if you would have let me know like my rose-colored glasses were on.
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You know what I mean.
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So I mean, the thing that I've learned now is basically, when you look and you're wanting to meet somebody, flags are real.
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Trust yourself, trust your gut, you know, because it won't do you wrong.
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You have a story about not trusting your gut right, Ignoring those red flags, and then it didn't work out and you're like dang it.
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Yes, so which one?
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Yeah, I mean, I met somebody over the holidays and super nice person Actually that's not the one I want to use, because that one I trusted my gut and it ended.
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But my ex of five years, which we went from Denver here back and forth and you know, early on we kind of continued because I figured grass is not greener, and early on there were signs.
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You know he was a very beautiful man but he always seeked unnecessary attention.
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And we're going back a few years, like 2015, 2016.
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And social media was just kind of kicking off, like Instagram, that type of stuff.
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And you know he didn't have Instagram.
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I'm like, okay, well, whatever, you know.
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But my gut was always my spidey senses were tingling and whenever we would go out people would be like, hey, how are you doing?
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So?
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Brian was his name.
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I said, how are you doing Brian?
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And I'm like, oh, but you always complain, you have no friends, but everybody seems to know you.
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He's like whatever, he would ignore the people and my gut was always telling me like something's off, something's wrong.
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He did a whole photo shoot once and I found out by seeing the pictures posted online.
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Wow.
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Yeah, and I found an Instagram, I mean.
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So my senses were there, I just chose to ignore them.
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So he had all the social medias.
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He had them, but he wasn't sharing them with you.
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There were some DMs that I ended up reading Because it's like I never want to be that person again where you don't trust.
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Right, because when you don't trust and I travel for work it's hard.
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Right, I went into his phone.
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I know you're not supposed to.
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I went into his phone because I didn't trust and.
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I saw everything that I was fearful I would find.
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Well, there's a reason why he was hiding his social media from you.
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You don't have to hide something unless you're doing something wrong.
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Exactly In today's day and age.
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My niece she's gorgeous, she lives in Orange County, she's going to school in Orange County and like the photo she takes on the beach, I'm like, oh my God, but she's beautiful, Like I mean, she's dating someone.
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It's fine.
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Just be honest and upfront.
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I don't care.
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You know, it's nice if you have an attractive partner that looks after themselves he or she, whatever you fancy.
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You know what?
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If you're honest and upfront, nobody cares.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, you shouldn't.
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You should be like, wow, yeah, look at them, that's awesome, you're proud of them.