March 11, 2026

Jill’s First Date Story — Pros: He Brought Diamonds. Cons: He Brought Tears as Well 😵‍💫

Jill’s First Date Story — Pros: He Brought Diamonds. Cons: He Brought Tears as Well 😵‍💫
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Dating apps promise sparks, but Jill’s experience proves it’s more like fireworks… and sometimes a fire alarm. 

She’s a realtor, snowboarder, gym rat, and full-time master of spotting red flags. Her wildest first date? Diamonds on the table, tears on the side, and sneaky married men lurking in the DMs.

We spill TV-level drama from real life, laugh through lifestyle deal breakers, and hear about Jill’s wildest single-life adventures. From diamonds to DMs, she’s got stories that are shocking, hilarious, and oddly educational for anyone still swiping.

Press play for laughs, outrageous first-date tales, and tips to survive your own rom-com. 

Share with a friend, hit follow, and drop a review with your wildest first-date fail.

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00:00 - Cold Open: Catfish And Chaos

00:15 - Meet The Hosts And Jill

00:45 - Jill’s Work And Boundaries In Real Estate

02:06 - TV Realtors vs Real-Life Licenses

03:47 - Values In A Partner And Travel Non-Negotiables

05:19 - Honesty On The Slopes

06:40 - Travel Stories: China And The Married Athlete

11:01 - Food Abroad And Keeping An Open Mind

11:28 - Red Dirt Country And Two-Stepping

13:05 - Types, Deal Breakers, And Meeting Offline

15:05 - Almost-Engaged And Choosing A Bigger Life

17:08 - Love, Kids, And Adding Value

18:14 - Disaster Dates: Tears, Trauma Dumps, And Diamonds

21:22 - Neighborhood Lore And Boundaries

24:19 - Keep More Minute: First-Date Ride Home

25:13 - Beauty Capitals And Why Scottsdale Pops

28:06 - First-Date Formats And Safety

30:19 - Travel Compatibility And Feminine Energy

32:41 - The Finance Bro Question

36:00 - Celebrity Card: The Coffee Pot Underwear Scandal

38:00 - Rapid Fire With Jill

41:00 - Closing And How To Date Jill

41:18 - Tag Back To Catfish Cold Open

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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.

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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

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So I found out the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.

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Welcome to the meat market.

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The single scene is a slaughterhouse, and we are here to devour it.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Lindsay.

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I'm Jess.

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And today's sizzling single is Jill.

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Welcome.

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So I stalked all your social media platforms, and I love that you work hard, but you play harder.

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I love that about you.

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There's so many videos of you just busting your ass in the gym, and I know you do real estate, but then there's videos of you snowboarding drinking a cocktail.

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Yes.

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I love that.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, I like to work hard but play harder.

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Yeah.

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So you do real estate?

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Is that you?

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I do.

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That's my primary job is real estate.

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And then I also work for a security company as an event coordinator.

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And then I also manage some properties.

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Oh, nice.

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Yeah.

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You must be busy.

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I stay busy.

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Yeah.

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I stay really busy.

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So being a real estate agent, do you have any crazy?

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I bet a lot of clients hit on you, no?

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They do, but it's a little bit scary on the scarier side, not so much like fun flirty.

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Um I had like one situation that was wild.

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But for the most part, I would say most people are pretty respectful.

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Um they can separate work Jill from play Jill.

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So I would say it's pretty professional for the most part.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We'll never be able to have a real estate agent on without me thinking of hooking up at an open house.

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Oh my god.

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Have you ever had anybody try to try to proposition you?

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Oh, for sure.

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I mean, yeah, showings, open houses.

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What?

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Yeah, I've had some insane situations, but at the end of the day, my license is on the line.

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So I have to be.

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Not worth risking it.

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Yeah, it's definitely not worth risking it.

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And plus, it's just overplayed.

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Everyone thinks of that.

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Everyone thinks of the realtor like that.

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So like how does one approach, like, thank you for showing me this home, want to show me something else?

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Guys are insane.

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Like, what the hell?

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Yes, guys are insane.

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They have no shame.

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They'll say anything.

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They'll it yeah, I've heard it all.

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It's it's wild.

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It's crazy.

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I'm watching um selling the OC right now, and it's like they're the whole scandal is like the girl who's supposedly slept with people to get listings and things like that.

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It's just like so crazy.

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I feel like the real estate world is wild.

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I can't, I think I can't really speak on how the real estate market is with females here in Arizona.

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Um, I don't know how it is in like Beverly Hills selling sunset stuff like that.

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Um, I I'm kind of a tough critic.

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I haven't seen too much of the show, but what I've seen, I'm like, do they really have their licenses?

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They know what they're talking about.

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What are they doing here?

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Like it's all for like TV and show.

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I always wonder that too.

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Yeah.

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Well, they have their licenses, but I think that there has been like deep dives into the history of their sales, and it's not as they have one closing.

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I think it's not as much as they make it seem like on the show.

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Right.

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What's like what is that show?

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The servers?

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Vanderpom?

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Oh, Vanderpom.

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Are they really servers?

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Do they, or is that just fake?

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Are they just staging to serve?

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Do they actually serve customers?

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I've always wondered that.

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I don't know, we should find out.

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I think they have one here now, the Vanderpump.

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They have a restaurant here in Sai?

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Yeah, we should go.

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Oh yeah.

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No, we didn't have this over cocktails.

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Yeah, they do.

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I've been to the surve.

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I don't know.

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I think it's still open, the one in California or wherever it is.

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Yeah, and not uh none of the servers that were on the show were there.

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It was years ago, but yeah, I don't know.

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They were probably atmosphere a lot of times, and you'll see at the parties here, just like the atmosphere people, like clearly, yeah.

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They're not just here at this party, they are for a reason.

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So you're very active, whether it's fitness or snowboarding.

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Is that important to you in a partner?

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They have to be just as active as well.

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For sure.

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I've tried like dating guys or going out with guys that we don't share those similar interests, and it's never gonna work.

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Like my social media portrays like snowboarding and working out, but those are things I do for me.

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So I don't necessarily think my partner has to do them with me, but just like a commonality, like a common interest, like the way that I love animals and like I have a rescue dog and all these things.

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Like, those are important to me, but I don't necessarily need them in a partner, I think.

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Um, just kind of have the common interests to be able to like go out and do things and travel.

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And like I want to like travel the world and see more countries than I've already seen, and I cannot be with somebody.

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That's probably my number one.

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I can't be with somebody that's like never gonna leave the United States.

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It doesn't have a passport, doesn't have a passport, couldn't couldn't be me.

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Never.

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I can't do it.

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Would it give you the ick?

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Okay, I'm gonna give you a whatever you're gonna say, yes.

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This is why I'm single.

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I get the ick so bad.

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I know it's menu.

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Okay.

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Would it give you the ick?

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So I ask this because I recently had a situation.

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If you if you and a new guy were going snowboarding, say, and and he tells you like that he knows how to snowboard and he's been snowboarding before, right?

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So he's not a newbie.

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You're not expecting him to be brand new, right?

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And then you get out there and he's like terrible.

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Would that give you because he lied to me?

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That's a lie.

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Just be like, I've never been, and I'd be like, I'd be happy to show you some pointers, right?

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I've been snowboarding since I was like 12.

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So I'd rather them be honest.

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I'd be like, don't lie to try and impress me.

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I don't expect you to be Sean White.

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Like, just tell me, be like, hey, I've maybe done one, I've maybe gone like one time, and I think I would like that a little bit more.

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Like, okay, cool.

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I can coach you if you want, or we can put you in lessons and I'll have a great day.

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Like, whatever.

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Yeah.

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That's a red flag.

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Yeah.

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It is.

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Right.

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Lied.

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Right.

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Uh-huh.

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Do you ski as well or just snowboard?

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I skied one year.

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I think it was like 12.

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And then I was like, these snowboarders are way cooler.

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Yeah.

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I was like, I want to wear the baggy clothes.

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I want to be shredding some gnar and do all the cool snowboarder stuff.

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So I've been snowboarding since I was probably 13.

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Is it Lindsay Vaughn and how she had that leg injury and they thought they might have to amputate her leg and she's a skier.

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Like that would be devastating.

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Decorated Olympic champion.

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Like she's incredible and like massive injury.

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Like your worst nightmare.

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Yeah.

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Career ending.

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So hopefully she'll she's even like able to walk again.

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That's why.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So you like to travel like internationally?

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I do.

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That's right.

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That's probably the thing that I live most for.

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I'm most passionate about that for sure.

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There was a guy that I wanted that came on the show that I was wanting to hook her up with, but he's afraid of planes.

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So that was the deal.

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Oh, well that'll never work.

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She's like, that condo.

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That will never work ever.

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That's unfortunate.

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Yeah, I know I love to travel.

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Where's your favorite place?

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I suck at this question.

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Um I think my favorite have been where I've been the most uncomfortable.

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Um, I would say maybe like China.

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It was never on like my to-do list.

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I never had it on like my must see.

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Like I had like Italy up there, and I had Greece and all these things, and all these wonderful places that I loved.

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But I think China, because it was so uncomfortable and it was such a different culture, and nobody was speaking English, and you had to like really immerse yourself, and the food was so drastically different, and the music and the nightlife scene, it was really cool.

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Like it was so uncomfortable that it was like, this is a really great opportunity.

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I'm not sure I'll be able to get there again.

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Like I have a 10-year visa, so that's cool, but I don't know when that's next on my list.

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Like, I have so many other places.

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What made you go to China?

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Oof, it had to do with a man.

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I was just gonna ask if you had travel romance.

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That's a great story.

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Um, I was in Bali on a friend's trip.

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We had gone to Thailand for a week and then Bali for a week.

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And we were at this day pool party, and I see this man, he's like six foot eight, and I was like, Woo! Nobody over there is like that tall.

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So I see him, and we kind of like start talking, and he's got an accent.

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I was like, oh wow, where are you from?

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And he was like, Brazil.

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And I was like, ooh, red flag immediately.

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This is immediate.

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I love it.

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I'm in.

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I'm in.

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I went fishing and I caught him.

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I'm in.

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He's from Brazil.

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He plays uh soccer in China, so that's like red flag number two.

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He's an athlete.

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So he's from Brazil, and then he played soccer.

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Literally a walking red flag.

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And I was like, amazing.

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I'm in.

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I love it.

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Again, this is a me problem.

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I know it's my problem.

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Um, and so we ended up hanging out the rest of the week, and we would go out with their friend group at night, and we would go to dinner, and then we would go like dancing at like the clubs and stuff.

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We had so much fun with their friend group, and I really like this guy, and we were having fun.

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He was like, You should come to China.

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He's like, After this, I go back to China, I live in Beijing.

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And I was like, Well, I'm not gonna go by myself.

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Like, I want to bring my friends.

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And he was like, Okay, cool.

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So he flew my friends and I to China, like five of us.

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Wow.

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Yeah, so we all go to China and it puts us up in like a nice hotel, like the Hilton over there in like downtown Beijing, like really great, like amazing.

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And he ends up being married, which he didn't have like social media, didn't have a ring, all these things.

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I find out right before the trip, and I was like, you guys, like I don't want to hang out with this guy anymore, but I still want to go to China.

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And they were like, Okay, well, let's all just go on this trip because they already got the hotel, they already got the flights, like let's just go.

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So we ended up going and we had a great time, and like we barely hung out with him, we barely saw him.

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His friends were amazing.

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Like his friends were like normal people, like business people.

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Um, some were in school, some were owned restaurants, like they were just like normal, and it was like this small, like little Brazilian group living in China, and his friends were great.

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Like, I loved them.

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So we I've stayed connected with them to this day, but I didn't even I saw him maybe like once or twice.

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How did you find out he was married?

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Um, some crazy things kind of started happening to me.

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I think she found me.

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So what I ended up finding out is she had a private investigator on him when he was in Bali, like taking pictures.

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Wow.

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So then I got pictures sent to me of the two of us, and like then he then he ends up, I confront him about it, and he ends up like telling me, and the whole thing was like insane.

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I ended up getting like my identity hacked, and all sorts of things happened, and I was like, it was in the same time friend, and I was like, man, maybe this was her.

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And I I don't remember if I had a conversation with her.

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I was like, I do not want your married husband.

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I was like, here for a good time, not a long time, girl.

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Like, I did not know it is what it is.

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But I ended up going to China and it was great, had a good time.

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So he has a history of doing that.

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He's famous.

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Yeah, I ended up like blocking him, and then like I think years later, my friends and I were like brought him up, like laughing at the whole situation, meaning like this guy's nuts, and like he was like divorced from that girl and like married to another one, and then divorced from her, and like just all over the place, babies everywhere, and I was just like, Yeah.

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So, anyway, so I went to China.

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China was fun.

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How did you like the food?

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Because it's very different than like American Chinese food, right?

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Completely different.

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It's completely different than American food, and I would say the same about Thai food.

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Um, my experiences in Thailand.

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Um, I think it's fantastic.

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I think it's very different, so you have to go into it with an open mind.

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Um definitely very very different is the best way I can describe it.

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It was it was interesting.

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Now you like country music?

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I do, I'm from Oklahoma.

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Oh, are you from Oklahoma?

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Yeah.

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So I that's kind of born and raised, and I moved out here and I kind of not really like let go of my countryside, but just kind of like left it in the past.

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And then I kind of started bringing my boots out again, and I've been wearing all my boots and listening to country music.

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But I listen to a different kind of country music though.

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We we call it like red dirt, uh Texas Country.

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It's very different from like Nashville country, so I'm not being a hater.

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The Nashville country is whatever, but I like bands like Eli Young Band, like Josh Abbott Band, Randy Rogers, like a very different sound.

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Like Zach Bryan is kind of like a red dirt sound.

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Um like Pat Green, like these are all like bands like back in the day, but it's very different from the country music out here, so it's like do you line dance?

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Do you country dance?

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Um so I two-step, I know some line dances, but I more so two-step, and what they do out here is really interesting because when I moved out here, I was like, what are they doing?

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It's I guess it's called a country swing.

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It's so different from like a Texas two-step or I mean we call it that in Oklahoma too.

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It's like just two-stepping or Texas two-step.

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And like Ella Langley sings about it in like her her new song, uh like he's from Texas, I can she's from Texas, I can tell.

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Um it's literally a different, we dance different than they do like out here and like West Coast and stuff.

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It's it's odd.

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So every time I'm like, I still haven't learned it.

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Do you like a country man, a country boy?

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I used to, and then I quit them for a long time, and now I'm circling back, and I still hate it.

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Um, but at least I'm giving another opportunity, so I'll probably quit them soon.

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I just always like to try to like recycle different types of men to see if maybe it'll work this time.

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Do you have a type?

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Pretty that's my downfall.

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I find like the most handsome man in the room, and I try to find like the tallest, most handsome.

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I don't really care about like money thing.

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Like I have three jobs, like I don't really care.

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I'm not looking for a man to like take care of me.

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It's more so that's my downfall.

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That's why I'm single.

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Um, so I know this.

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But so what are your other deal breakers?

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What else gives you the ick?

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Oh my gosh.

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I can't do dating apps.

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Like I've tried them before, but I have to see somebody in person, like mannerisms um and how like they were like treat somebody.

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Like, I get the ick really bad if a guy were to like treat like somebody working in a restaurant like disrespectfully or like treat like a woman disrespectfully.

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I don't know.

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Like I just have to like see them like out in the wild, which is hard because it's like where in the wild are we gonna meet them?

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That's one age appropriate for myself, um, be aligning with where I am in life.

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So I don't know, it's just like a roulette these days.

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But so where do you meet people if you're not on the apps?

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Um I'm pretty social.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I like to a lot of my friends are I thankfully in like similar situations.

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They're a little bit younger, um, but they're probably in like similar life situations, whether they're from the Midwest or they live out here, like we don't have kids yet, we don't have a husband, stuff like that.

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So concerts, sporting events, like I still go out.

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I still I'm probably still in all the places I shouldn't be.

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But I'm there.

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Have you been married before?

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No.

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No.

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Have you had long-term relationships though?

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Yeah.

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I had a we could call him like an ex-fiance.

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He had the ring, he was about to propose.

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It was right before I turned 30, and then I had like a pre pre-midlife crisis.

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And I'll So you ended it.

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I ended it, yeah, right.

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Like literally right before he proposed.

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Um But we're still great friends.

00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:14.559
Like it was just one of those things.

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It wasn't that the love wasn't there.

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It was a matter of he wanted to stay in Oklahoma and I wanted to like be out in the world, and he's already traveled the world.

00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.080
He's from San Diego, LA area.

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Like he's lived a wild life, and he's a little bit older, and so he likes the slower lifestyle of Oklahoma City.

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And I was like, I want to go out and do all the things.

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Like, just because I'm turning 30 doesn't mean like I'm ready to slow down.

00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:37.919
Are you from Oklahoma City?

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I'm from Tulsa.

00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:39.440
Okay.

00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:39.600
Yeah.

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I drove through Oklahoma City this summer and is a shithole.

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Hey, we've come a long way.

00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:46.639
Hey, we've come a long way.

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We have the thunder.

00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:53.360
Well, at least we're the whatever interstate champs, the thunder, whatever interstate it was that we drove.

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Is it 35?

00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:55.759
Um, we were going north or south?

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North or south, it's 35.

00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:59.679
Yes, going south from Iowa to Dallas.

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Yeah.

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And we're on the 35.

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Yeah, yeah.

00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:03.200
Okay.

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There's some highlights in there.

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There's like a ham sandwich you can get.

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Did you see the billboards for the ham sandwiches?

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It's famous.

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They're like red and white.

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It's famous.

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You'll have to go back.

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You'll have to go back for real.

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They're so um uneventful, too.

00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:24.399
It's like the most basic ham sandwich, but it's like a joke because there's a million of these billboards that say like ham sandwich.

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I think it's like Robertson's ham sandwiches.

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Oh, that's hilarious.

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It's so funny.

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It's very uneventful.

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That's so funny.

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Yeah, no, I just remember seeing like the OKC, um, the thunder.

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Yeah.

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Billboard Joy.

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And that's it.

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And it was like, that's all they have here, literally.

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They have come a long way.

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It's near and dear to my heart.

00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:43.120
So I'm from Tulsa, and then I moved to Norman.

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I graduated from the University of Oklahoma.

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And then after that, I moved to Texas, lived in Texas for a little while, moved back to Oklahoma, lived in Oklahoma City like eight years.

00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:56.080
So I probably have more love for OKC because that's where I spent my adult life.

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And my childhood was Tulsa, so I don't really know it as well.

00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:01.679
But we've come a long way.

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Yeah.

00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.720
And I'm sure if you get off the small market stuff, that's what I think.

00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:07.279
I'm sure if you get off of the interstate, there are nice areas.

00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:09.600
But it was one of those things.

00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:10.960
Like I was driving with my mom.

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Yeah.

00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.360
And we were like, well, where should, you know, where should we stop?

00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:14.080
Where should we get out?

00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:14.720
Where should we do this?

00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:16.799
And we're like, oh well, Oklahoma City's on the way.

00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:17.519
Maybe we'll stop there.

00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.480
And we were kind of driving through, and my mom's like, let's just keep driving.

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Oh no.

00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:27.279
See, you do it's one of those cities you do kind of need to know somebody that lives there to show you around because there's some really cool stuff.

00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:28.000
It's a gym.

00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:39.919
Um so now that I've lived in Phoenix for like seven years, I'm like, I miss the quaintness and the cuteness of like a smaller, like in like the city and like the burbs, I think we have like a million there, which is pretty substantial.

00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.279
Um, definitely nothing compared to Phoenix, but it's cute, it's quaint.

00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:44.480
I miss it sometimes.

00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.519
But don't like a lot of cities from the freeway look crappy, like Phoenix comes out.

00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:48.000
For sure.

00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:52.879
If you're taking the 17, like if you're going south on the 17, like Phoenix seems like a shithole.

00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:53.919
It seems like a shithole.

00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:54.159
Yeah.

00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:54.559
Yeah.

00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:55.519
That's true.

00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:57.120
I will say okay, see Skyline.

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You like blink and you miss it.

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It's we have like one big tower.

00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:02.960
Do you want to get married enough kids?

00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:03.519
What do you do?

00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:05.599
I'm a lover girl at heart.

00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:08.960
Despite everything I've said today, I'm a lover girl.

00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:10.160
Um I do.

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I'm just, I live such a good life and I'm so happy.

00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:19.200
So it's like a weird dichotomy of I'm so happy single because I provide everything I want for myself.

00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:21.519
So I'm not looking to be fulfilled by a man.

00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:23.839
I want somebody to bring something to the table.

00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:27.759
Like, I'm not talking like financials, I'm talking just like add to my life.

00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:31.839
Like, whether it's sharing the joy and the passion of like traveling or wanting to have kids.

00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:33.920
I don't want to have kids with just anybody because I'm getting older.

00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:36.799
Like, I want you to be like a father, I want you to be present.

00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:39.119
Like, if I wanted to go have a kid, I could do it by myself.

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And I don't want to do that.

00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:41.279
Like, that's a lot of work.

00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.000
I'd rather continue living my life and have fun.

00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:46.319
Do you have any disaster date stories?

00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:48.640
Bad dates.

00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:50.319
Uh yeah, kind of.

00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.680
No, because I don't do enough um online dating to be catfish.

00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:54.240
That's true.

00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:55.440
Yeah, absolutely not.

00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:56.079
I could never.

00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:58.400
That freaks me out thinking about it.

00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:05.519
Um, I did, I went on a date with this sweet man, and he got, it was like a first date, and I don't even need I'm from Oklahoma.

00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:07.359
Girl, I could do In N Out Burger.

00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:08.559
I am not bougie.

00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:09.759
I'm so laid back.

00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.000
In fact, I love In and Out, I might go get it after this.

00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:13.839
Like, it's one of my favorite joys in life.

00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.920
I always say it's like my if I was going to the electric chair, like I'm gonna get in a bigger burger.

00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:18.640
That's my last meal.

00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.880
It was in an out burger animal style ad chopped chilies with a cherry coke.

00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:27.119
Um, I'm easy, and this guy takes me this steak steak dinner, which was really lovely.

00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:46.319
Like, I love steak, and and it was just he was like trying so hard, I think maybe to impress me that he was like like so nervous and like kind of got emotional and like one drink in, he's really emotional, and I was like, wow, like and I don't want him to see this and like know I'm talking about him.

00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:51.759
But it was just it was very like uncomfortable, and it's like, oh no, like I felt bad.

00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:53.279
Did he cry?

00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:54.000
Oh no.

00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:57.039
Oh, he's gonna know it's him for sure if he sees it.

00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:58.799
I'm gonna block him.

00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.799
Now I have to block him on every social media platform.

00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:03.759
Sorry guys.

00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:04.400
But that's a good thing.

00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:09.279
Well, now that I'm gonna block him, so I agree to go to a second dinner with him.

00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:13.920
After he cries at the first dinner, I was like, okay, maybe he's got some childhood trauma, don't we all?

00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:14.160
Right?

00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:14.640
Whatever.

00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:15.599
I'm forgiving.

00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:16.880
He's tall and handsome.

00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:17.599
We'll give it a go.

00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:18.480
I met him in my neighborhood.

00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:19.519
I was walking my dog.

00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:20.400
Oh, it was crazy.

00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:21.359
That was a wild story.

00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.720
Um, he's very blue-collar, very tall, like country boy.

00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:26.319
And I was like, okay, cool.

00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.000
Um, so he cries the first dinner, and I was like, oh God.

00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:35.279
Uh so then he asked me to do a second dinner, and it we actually share, I have to block him now.

00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:36.880
Uh we share a birthday.

00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:37.759
Like, what are the odds?

00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.720
Like, actual same birthday but different year.

00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:42.160
I'm like 10 years older.

00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:47.200
Um, so we share a birthday, and he's like, let's go to dinner um for our birthdays.

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And I was like, ugh, okay.

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I was like, not on our birthdays though.

00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:51.680
It was like another day, like a week later.

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So we go to dinner, a steakhouse again.

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I was like, we don't have to do this.

00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:57.440
Like, we could go get tacos, like, this is too much.

00:19:57.680 --> 00:19:59.599
He had bought me diamond earrings.

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What?

00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.920
I was like, this feels like love bombing.

00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:05.200
This feels like a lot.

00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:06.640
On the second day?

00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:07.200
He did.

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Dang a line.

00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:08.640
Yeah.

00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:11.200
And I was like, well, I got you some shirts from Carhartt.

00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:17.839
And I wasn't even gonna get him a gift, but he had mentioned I have something for you for your birthday, and then I was like, well, I can't show up empty-handed.

00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.720
So I went to the Bass Pro shop and I got him some Carhartt shirts because I knew he'd appreciate it.

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Like it was a useful gift.

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And he had fucking diamond earrings.

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Diamond?

00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:28.480
What did you say?

00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:29.839
I was like, wow.

00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:31.039
Real diamonds?

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Real from the cage dueler.

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Oh my god.

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I called my friends and I was like, oh my God.

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I was like, do I keep these?

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And then like I don't want him to think, like lead them on and think that like that was a good idea, but then also don't want to hurt his feelings.

00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:49.759
And he ended up saying, like, I don't, he like kind of fixed it.

00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.720
He was just like, well, I don't want you to feel like weird or uncomfortable about it.

00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:53.599
It's a birthday gift.

00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:55.119
But I was like, oh, still kind of a lot.

00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:56.880
Like, this is like our second time like hanging out.

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Did you give him like any indication on the first day?

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Like was there there was no?

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I even told him, I was like, this listen, I am here for a good time.

00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:08.000
Not a long time.

00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:09.839
Maybe he wanted a kiss, isn't that their slogan?

00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:11.920
Every kiss begins okay.

00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:15.359
They're nice diamond earrings.

00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:16.799
So I went back and forth for a couple days.

00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:17.920
I was like, should I give them back?

00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:19.599
And then I was like, he's a really nice guy.

00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:22.480
I think he's very intentional, um, just because we don't align.

00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:23.839
And I had the conversation with him.

00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:27.279
I was like, hey, you know, I appreciate everything you've done.

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You're so sweet.

00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:31.759
Um, however, and then I X, Y, and Z.

00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:37.599
Um, and I ended up keeping him, and I was like, Oh gosh, I still even feel weird about it.

00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:39.359
And I we're fine now.

00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:40.319
He lives in my neighborhood.

00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:43.359
He's had like 12 girlfriends since, and this was like six months ago.

00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:44.160
So we're he's doing fine.

00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:48.240
But I do have to ask, what was he crying about like on the first day?

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Was it like it did what did his mother recently pass?

00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.319
Or so it was something like that.

00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:52.640
Okay.

00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:54.640
Yeah, it was like a horrible story.

00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.039
Like, not even like super recently, mid recently.

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It was something like super tragic, and then it like spiral into like.

00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:09.279
Like kind of like a tragic like childhood, and just like a lot of things I probably like not to like even be funny on this, but like things you probably wouldn't shouldn't dig into like on the first date.

00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:13.920
Like everybody has their childhood stuff, but first date, I just don't know.

00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.880
Like, I feel like that's just getting to know each other, like the light stuff.

00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.279
And then like later on, maybe you get into like the deeper stuff.

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Cause I for sure want someone to share those things with me.

00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.559
Like that's part of who we are and what makes us, you know.

00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:32.079
I mean, it makes you, I mean, it's courageous of him to cry on the first date to feel comfortable crying, but that makes you think if he's crying on the first date, is this is he gonna cry often?

00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.119
It was a whoop it and it turned yes, yes, it turned into that.

00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:37.759
I think it sounds like he needs like a therapist for sure.

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A girlfriend.

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Like, you know what I mean?

00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:45.920
Like I recommended it multiple times first and then start dating.

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He's got a now that he's blocked, he's gonna be blocked after this.

00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:56.480
Um, he's got like crazy baby mama drama with an ex-wife who's significantly younger than myself and even younger than him.

00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:00.880
There was like a lot of drama with that, and like he's telling me all about it, and this is all like trauma dump.

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And I was like, so I think you should seek therapy, like in the nicest way possible.

00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:06.720
Like, I seek therapy.

00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:07.519
I think we all do.

00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:09.200
Like, it's if we all should at least.

00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:14.720
Like, it's doesn't necessarily need to be a negative thing, like it's like powerful and helpful so that you don't trauma dump on a date.

00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:15.519
On a first date.

00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:16.400
On a first date, yeah.

00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:19.759
Well, even like the second date was like a birthday dinner, he got into like some deep shit again.

00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:22.400
And I was like, then should we be drinking on dates?

00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:22.720
Yeah.

00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:25.519
Um, are you on the Facebook groups?

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Are we dating the same?

00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:27.920
No, but I have friends that are.

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I wonder if he's on there.

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He almost if he dates around that much.

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I feel like he has to.

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I don't know.

00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:37.920
He's not, his social media presence is so, so small.

00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:44.000
He's not like super active um on like Instagram or like I don't even think he has a TikTok.

00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:46.319
Uh so I don't even know how he's meeting these women.

00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:49.519
I mean, I know actually, I got a lot of lore last night from my neighbor.

00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:50.880
It's like the neighborhood lore.

00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:52.559
I got a lot of lore about that.

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He's got like a move-in girlfriend now, and it's the the best friend of the ex-wife.

00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:57.920
And I was like, Oh my god.

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This'll go well.

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Right.

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That's crazy.

00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:03.599
I have to block everyone though.

00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:07.200
I have to move actually.

00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:12.960
I have to move back to like, what is it when you're in the witness program with the FDI?

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That's gonna be me.

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That's funny.

00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:15.920
And that's just one small story.

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I have so many.

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Are you ready for it?

00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:19.200
But I'm ready for it.

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Okay.

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What do you ladies think of a guy that I had to give a ride home after our first date?

00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:42.079
He ubered to the date spot, which is fine, and I completely expected him to Uber himself home at the end of the night.

00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.799
So I was completely caught off guard when he asked for a ride.

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I froze in the moment and just agreed, but it kind of gave me the ick.

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Am I overreacting?

00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:50.160
No.

00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:51.920
I think that's weird.

00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:53.759
And I also think it's dangerous.

00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:54.799
I agree.

00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:55.680
I don't like that at all.

00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:01.279
Getting in her car alone together on the first date, who knows if he's gonna pull out a gun or you know?

00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:01.680
Yeah.

00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:02.319
People are weird.

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It's a no for me, too.

00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:04.960
I agree.

00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:08.160
And the fact that he put her in that situation, just Uber her.

00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:08.960
That's uncomfortable.

00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:14.960
Yeah, he put her he had the capability to Uber home and he made a choice to make her uncomfortable and say, Can I get a ride?

00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:15.440
Oh no.

00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:15.759
Yeah.

00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:16.480
I agree.

00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:17.599
Inappropriate.

00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.039
So I saw this TikTok.

00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:23.359
Top states with the most attractive women.

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Did you see this?

00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:24.880
Yeah.

00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.440
What states do you think are voted southern?

00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:28.160
Oh, I've seen that.

00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:29.200
You've seen that.

00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.359
So number five is Georgia.

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:32.160
Kind of makes sense.

00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:33.839
Georgia Peaches, Southern Bells.

00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:34.480
Yeah, definitely.

00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:36.160
Then for Illinois.

00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:37.839
I do know Chicago girls, right?

00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:41.440
I know my husband likes Chicago girls because they're more natural, you know.

00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:43.200
Three was Pennsylvania.

00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.240
What's in Pennsylvania?

00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:44.960
The Amish.

00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:46.240
The Amish are there.

00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.119
The Amish are there, but I don't know if that's I don't think that's a no, yeah.

00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:52.079
I thought that was kind of weird.

00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:53.440
Two New York, I can see that.

00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:55.759
It's like fashion central of the US.

00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:57.039
And number one was guest.

00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:58.079
It's Arizona.

00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:59.200
Arizona, baby.

00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:00.160
Scottsdale, yeah.

00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:00.960
Sure, sure.

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:01.680
I've heard that.

00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.799
I do know that everyone thinks that Scottsdale has the most beautiful women.

00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.839
But then so I was like questioning some of these, so I did my own research.

00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.720
I gone other websites, and it was slightly different.

00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:11.440
California.

00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.440
I expected California to be on there.

00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:14.000
Why?

00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.160
Fitness culture is huge there.

00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:21.519
Year on sound means constant glow season, beauty industry, proximity to Los Angeles.

00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:22.960
But is it natural beauty there?

00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:26.160
Aren't there a lot of is it natural beauty there in LA?

00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.079
I think it depends on like where you are.

00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:28.880
Yeah, that's true.

00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:30.400
This is like the same as Scottsdale.

00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:32.559
But I was gonna say you can say the same thing about Scottsdale.

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Oh, 100%.

00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:34.720
LA and Scottsdale are right here.

00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:40.240
But then if you go to like San Diego or something like that, I would say there's probably a lot more like natural beauty there.

00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.640
And then probably other parts of Arizona as well.

00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:43.920
For sure.

00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:50.880
Texas, big hair, big confidence effects, why it gets mentioned, because big pageant culture there apparently.

00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.640
Strong glam scene in Dallas and Houston and the Southern Charm effect.

00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:04.079
New York, the cool girl capital, why it ranks, style diversity, fast-paced lifestyle, and fashion forward influence.

00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.559
Florida, that makes sense, like Miami.

00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:13.440
Um the beach body blueprint, why it's always in the conversation because of the swimwear culture, Latin influence in Miami, party energy.

00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.279
And then this website also said Arizona, the sun kissed socialite.

00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.680
If you're on Scottsdale, this is your moment.

00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:24.400
Why it's rising, because fitness and filler culture influence a density.

00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:26.160
I know a lot of big influencers live here, huh?

00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:26.559
Yes.

00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.039
And polished desert glam in Scottsdale.

00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.359
But I why why do a lot of influencers live here?

00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.400
Is it the weather or like why do a lot of people move here?

00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:35.200
I don't know.

00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:36.400
I think the weather.

00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:36.960
Yeah.

00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:48.240
The weather, I think the proximity to California, Vegas, like it's like a good central hub to getting anywhere west coast, I think, very like quickly.

00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:49.440
Um that's true.

00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.440
We're close to LA, but without the California prices.

00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:52.240
Right, exactly.

00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:53.039
That makes sense.

00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:53.680
Exactly.

00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:58.319
And then the other was Colorado, the natural glow-up, why it surprises people.

00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:03.440
Outdoor lifestyle, athletic build, minimalist beauty vibe is effortless, the new hot.

00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.079
And then another one that kept popping up was Massachusetts.

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Classic and composed.

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Interesting.

00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:09.759
Okay.

00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:10.240
Interesting.

00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.160
Where is your favorite place to go on a first date?

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:13.279
Are you a dinner girl?

00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:14.319
Are you an activity girl?

00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:20.720
I don't love the dinner commitment, but I I guess it would depend like how well I know this person.

00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:28.160
Like if it's like if I were meeting them off of a dating app, I would probably opt for like maybe a drink to see like how it goes.

00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.759
I'm not even opposed to like a coffee.

00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.880
Like some girls are like, absolutely not, they gotta take me to dinner on the first date.

00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.079
Like, that's not me at all.

00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:35.359
I'd be fine to like coffee.

00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:36.559
Probably not a hike.

00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.000
I did that one time.

00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.119
Like back like four or five years ago, I tried Hinge one time.

00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:43.039
Probably gonna block this guy too.

00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:45.839
He still follows my socials.

00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:46.640
Nice guy.

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:48.240
I don't have any bad stories about him.

00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.119
But it was like too much of a commitment, and there's no escaping.

00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:52.000
Plus, it's a little dangerous.

00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:53.519
I was gonna say, isn't it kind of dangerous?

00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:54.559
Danger factor.

00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:59.279
And then it's like if you guys just don't like align or connect, then that's a long time to be out hiking.

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.200
So yeah, I did.

00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:02.640
I forgot I did that.

00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.440
It was like four or five years ago, and I was like, let's go on a hike.

00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:06.799
What could possibly go wrong?

00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.000
And he was fine, like he was a nice guy, we just didn't like connect.

00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.720
Did you go on a hike though that was like secluded?

00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:14.799
It was kind of far out west, yeah.

00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.599
It was like, but I brought friends, like it was like a friend group, so it wasn't just me and him.

00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.440
Like it was there was like a couple people.

00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.079
I brought my friend and then the guy she was seeing at the time.

00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:30.480
So it wasn't like 48 hours type Jill goes missing on a hike.

00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.640
That happens, it happens.

00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:33.680
You gotta be careful.

00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.839
Um, so no, I don't need like a bougie fancy dinner on like a first date.

00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.440
In fact, I get like weird and a little bit uncomfortable because then there's like expectations.

00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.279
Well, I spent all this money, I did all this, so what are you you know, what's what are you gonna do?

00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.599
I'd much rather like let's get a coffee, like let's um, I don't know.

00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.079
So you mentioned you'd have to travel.

00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.319
Have you ever been newly dating a guy?

00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:58.400
You go on a trip, and that was the deal breaker because they had different travel styles.

00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:04.799
They say that traveling together can make or break a relationship, but like if you like to sleep in and he likes to wake up at 5 a.m.

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.440
to Yeah, that's actually so funny you said that.

00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:12.000
I'm not dating this man, he's a longtime friend, and we went on a trip together.

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:14.799
He knew that I had a very busy like work season.

00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:23.279
Like we've been friends for like 15 years, and he was like, Do you want to go um on a trip to Mexico and like just relax for a couple days?

00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.000
And I was like, Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.359
Um and I've never traveled with this person before.

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:35.039
We've been friends, but like never in the same city, so it's like kind of going with like a stranger-ish.

00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:36.559
Like I know him, but kind of a stranger.

00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.559
So I didn't know like his like wake-up routine.

00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.240
Like, what does he does he do anything like weird?

00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:41.119
Like, I didn't know anything.

00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.359
So we just we go on this trip and I had a great time.

00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:44.079
It was lovely.

00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.880
I yeah, so that's like my one and only positive experience.

00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.720
Like thinking it was gonna go the other way.

00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:49.839
No, it was great.

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:50.880
I was like a princess.

00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:58.480
He put me in my feminine, which I'm always in my masculine because I have 75 jobs, so I'm always like, I'll pay for it, I'll do this, because it's like I'm I'm just in my masculine.

00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:02.319
So it reminded me that I am looking for a man to put me back in my feminine.

00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:07.920
So it was nice to be like treated like a queen and like he was just doing all like the boyfriendy things, which I really liked.

00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.640
Um, but I've never actually gone on a trip besides this individual.

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.160
I've never gone on a trip with somebody I wasn't actually fully in a relationship with.

00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:20.000
So the last time was with an ex-boyfriend and we went snowboarding in Colorado.

00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:23.599
So other than that, is this friend not someone that you're interested in romantically?

00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:24.799
It's a great question.

00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:26.640
Um, my sister was asking me.

00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.599
He's got everything on paper, is I'm gonna have to block him too.

00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.799
We're gonna have to go through your whole following, your whole round of losses, too.

00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:35.920
No, he's great.

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:36.559
He's wonderful.

00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:37.359
Um, he's really great.

00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.559
We just live in very different worlds, so I think it goes back to would we align on the day-to-day.

00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:43.599
How so?

00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:45.519
He's a finance bro.

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:47.519
So what's wrong with that?

00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:49.599
I am not a finance bro.

00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.039
I feel like I'm in like the more like I mean, I I'm dumb.

00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.599
I have so many jobs, and I shouldn't, I should like work smarter, not harder.

00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:03.680
Um but he's just very in like, I feel like he needs like a golf course wifey.

00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:20.480
He can find like a little Scottsdale wifey, like little petite and cute, and I'm covered in tattoos, and I just don't know if I fit the aesthetic of his world, and this could just be me in my own head, but I just don't fit the finance bro world at all.

00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.720
Has he expressed interest in you?

00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:30.400
Yeah, but I don't know, like I so we haven't talked about the trip since we went on the trip, as far as like would we ever consider dating?

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.480
We've never He never made a move on you.

00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:36.640
Ooh, he did wait.

00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:41.440
Well, we were in Mexico for a couple of years.

00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:44.640
Okay, so okay, so it's I I see.

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.160
Did we get nude?

00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:53.200
That's a next so was that chemistry there when you guys like Yeah, he's handsome.

00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:53.920
He's a handsome guy.

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.200
He's handsome, he's tall.

00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.920
Um, I just think sounds like you're talking yourself out of it.

00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.720
A little bit because I just don't see how our day-to-day would like align.

00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.720
Because would you have to move to a city?

00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.720
Yes, he's in the like he was in Southern California, which would have been probably an easy sell for me.

00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.480
I've been like, okay, twist my arm.

00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.319
Um, but now he just moved to Chicago, which I actually love Chicago, great city.

00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:20.160
Um, it's just it's his world is like the the upper elite of like the private equities and the all the things.

00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:21.680
And I'm just I could see you fitting in.

00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:23.680
I mean, you're very well spoken, you're intelligent.

00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:25.759
I work with security guards all day.

00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.839
I am like, it's I just don't know.

00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:28.799
Yeah, I'm very intelligent.

00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:29.359
It's not that.

00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:30.640
Like, I feel like I'm very intelligent.

00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.640
I feel like I can be very classy.

00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:34.240
You seem very versatile.

00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:41.119
You can hang out with country people and go line dancing, but you can go snowboarding, you can travel to these exotics, you know, to these international places.

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.599
I do feel like I'm a chameleon in a lot of ways.

00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:44.559
I just don't know.

00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:45.839
I think of like the long term.

00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.039
I think he would be a great father.

00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:48.480
I think he'd be a great partner.

00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.079
Um, he values family.

00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.000
There's a lot of like really great things.

00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.079
I just don't know about like the day-to-day.

00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.599
I think we have a lot in common.

00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.400
Like we love talking about travels and all these things.

00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.000
It just would boil down to we've never even lived in the same city at one time.

00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:04.319
So I think it would, I would need to see like the day-to-day.

00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.640
Well, and finance bros get a bad rap too.

00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.880
Have you seen like the TikToks and stuff?

00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:10.960
They're a little bit known for beating fuckboys.

00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:12.800
Oh, they really are talking about that, huh?

00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.039
Yeah, it's just like it's yeah, it's a world of never dabbled in.

00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:29.679
Well, kind of, and I think that they they even if they don't have a lot of money, because they are around money, they feel like they're entitled to act like they have a lot of money.

00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:34.639
And because they probably look very dapper every day in the suit and the tie and hanging out at nice restaurants with clients.

00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:36.239
They like happy hours every day.

00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.400
I think it's easy for them to meet people and easy for them to meet girls.

00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:46.880
The like the reels and stuff are really they're like funny and cheeky and like meant to be satire.

00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:54.000
But I think that like everything, every every post, right, is like based off of reality.

00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.320
Like it might be exaggerated, but it's still based off of reality.

00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:10.320
I I will say in the scheme of things, like on the scale of a finance bro, like he's like on, he's like one of like probably the best one like ever met as far as like very well balanced, very um down-to-earth.

00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:17.679
Like, so he is around like a lot of people with like very great wealth and like very like a lot of power and really prominent positions.

00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:27.119
I will say he's very um he's still from the Midwest, and so he's very like those, you know, those values and like the morals, and he's he's pretty good in that sense.

00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.320
I don't know if I I don't I wouldn't call him, I know plenty of fuck boys.

00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.239
I don't I wouldn't put him in that category.

00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:38.400
Um just like I think the day-to-day life with him, like would would we align in that sense?

00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:40.400
Like I just don't know.

00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.239
Now it's time for the celebrity card where we marinate in the juices of the celebrities.

00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:51.440
Did you guys see that Tara Woodcox, that influencer that did that travel hack video that now she's being sued?

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:52.400
No, what was that?

00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.239
So she oh my god, guys.

00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:55.519
So she did this travel hack.

00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:06.079
If you're in a hotel and you don't have any clean underwear, use the coffee pots like a curriculum to put your dirty underwear in there, and then the steaming hot water will go through and clean it, and then you blow dry them, right?

00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.159
She posts this, and people are just disgusted and mortified.

00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.880
This is why I never use coffee pots in hotels.

00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:18.559
People recognize the hotel, so now when they're staying there, they're demanding new brand new coffee pots.

00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.639
So now the hotel is suing her for millions of dollars.

00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:23.599
I heard that.

00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.920
I heard that the hotel is suing her, I heard that.

00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:27.039
She deserves that.

00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:30.960
That's weird.

00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:31.760
Disgusting.

00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.679
And then she came up saying, Oh, I was just joking.

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:35.840
I didn't think people would, you know, take me serious.

00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:36.800
And she wasn't joking at all.

00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:37.519
Like if you watch it.

00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:38.000
Disgusting.

00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:38.880
Disgusting.

00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.440
Wash like if you're gonna do that, like I would not.

00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.960
Just like, why have why have you not packed 50 pairs of underwear like any normal person would?

00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.519
Like, we always pack like a ridiculous amount.

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:49.280
So why are you needing to wash them to begin with?

00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.239
And second, like do it in like the bathtub if you're gonna be weird like that.

00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.480
The sink of the sink before travel hack, sink suds, hello.

00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:56.800
Right.

00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:04.480
Like they literally make little packets of laundry detergent that you can buy for that exact purpose.

00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.840
Like they're travel sized, they're like this big.

00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.320
That is the travel hack.

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.719
And it's like order sink suds off of Amazon.

00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:18.559
And isn't it easier to get like a bar of soap with your underwear and do that rather than to like stuff it inside the like coffee pod?

00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:20.639
And that just sounds And I'm a coffee person.

00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:21.840
I was disgusted.

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:28.960
I was literally in this hotel like a week ago drinking coffee before this whole thing came out, and I was like, somebody's draw it's probably been in here.

00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:30.960
You know what's funny is I always make coffee in the hotel.

00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.679
And I called my sister and told her about this, and she's like, I never drink coffee in hotels for this reason.

00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:36.639
I've all heard horror stories.

00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:37.679
So many people say that now.

00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.079
So many people say, and I'm like, I always do, I always do.

00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:40.559
Gross.

00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:42.400
I've never not drank coffee.

00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.199
I'm just saying, but now I don't think I will ever again.

00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:47.920
I'm only gonna think about somebody's dirty underwear.

00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:48.800
That's been in there.

00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:49.679
That's disgusting.

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:51.360
Freaking disgusting.

00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:55.440
So now we're gonna get to know you with Zoyo, sponsored by Zoya, your neighborhood yogurt.

00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:56.880
Rapid fire questions.

00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.280
What is your favorite body part on a guy?

00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:00.159
Face.

00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:00.880
Face.

00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:03.519
Craziest thing you've done to impress a date.

00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:05.360
Oh, rapid fire.

00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:05.840
Oh no.

00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.000
Um have you done anything extravagant or someone you were dating?

00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:11.519
Have you done anything romantic?

00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:16.719
I mean, I used to fly across the country once a month for my ex-boyfriend, and he did not shit really in return.

00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:18.000
But there's that.

00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.159
That's pretty extravagant and extreme.

00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.480
What should someone not do on a first date?

00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:23.519
Cry.

00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.800
Where should someone not take you on a first date?

00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:34.320
Um I don't know.

00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.079
Maybe maybe a movie, because I might fall asleep.

00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:39.440
I like movies, I do.

00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.519
I it's not that I'm against movies.

00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:45.760
It's just I go to bed kind of early because I'm a grandma and I'll probably fall asleep.

00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:48.159
This isn't a rapper fire question, but do you approach a guy?

00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:50.719
Like if you see someone that you think you do, what do you do you have a line?

00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:52.960
Nine times out of ten, I'll approach a guy.

00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:53.840
Not necessarily.

00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:55.039
What do you say?

00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:56.880
Hey.

00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.960
That's awesome that you have the confidence because I know a lot of women don't have that confidence.

00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:02.960
So yeah, I'll for sure approach a guy.

00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:05.760
Why let that opportunity pass you by and you regret it?

00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.079
Is watching porn considered cheating?

00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:09.760
Um, no, I don't think so.

00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.719
I don't think it's cheating.

00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.679
I think it just unlocks some unrealistic expectations.

00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:28.800
So I think if I guess if you I don't know if there's a healthy relationship with porn, but I think if you can separate reality from porn, like that's not realistic, and it's unfair if you're you know, fantasizing about somebody that your partner doesn't look like, it's like, I don't know.

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.000
I'm not saying that's cheating, but that's that's I think that's a really like great area.

00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.480
Before you're intimate, is it appropriate to ask your date how many people they've been with?

00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:36.960
No.

00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:39.519
Is it acceptable to have sex on a first date?

00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:40.320
Sure.

00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:44.559
Should you disclose mental health issues early on in a relationship?

00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:47.280
Probably.

00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:48.320
Probably.

00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.559
I would probably want to know if you're bipolar.

00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:51.840
I mean, I'll probably figure it out.

00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:52.960
Let's be honest.

00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:54.559
We'll probably figure it out real quick.

00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:58.159
Do you have any special or unique talents that not many people know about?

00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.480
Um things you don't tell many people?

00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:01.519
I don't think so.

00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:01.920
No.

00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.000
I mean, I'm pretty transparent.

00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:12.559
I don't really like if I have a private life, like I don't really post like I'll post like a lot of stuff, what I want people to see, but I don't really have like a private life that people don't know about.

00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:13.599
Like I'm pretty transparent.

00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:17.280
Like I have a rescue pit bull, like I love to travel, I love the snowboard.

00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:26.239
Um I love to go to the gym, I love to work out, so I I don't have like any like hidden Do you get hit on at the gym a lot?

00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.960
Um, no, because I don't really smile a lot at the gym.

00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:30.639
So everyone's like, mmm, grumpy.

00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:33.519
Like I feel like you should smile more, like whatever.

00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:35.199
Like people won't really approach me.

00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.360
One, I haven't worked out by myself in a while.

00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.239
I have like a little girl gang that I go work out with.

00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.840
Um, but I would say historically, no, because I don't give a very approachable like look.

00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:47.039
And that's not like intentional.

00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.599
I just I have one of those faces, like the whole resting bitch face.

00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:51.920
Like, if I'm not smiling, like people are like, what's wrong?

00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:52.800
Like, what's wrong with you?

00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:53.440
Are you grumpy?

00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:53.760
Are you mad?

00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:54.719
And I'm like, no.

00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:56.159
Just my face.

00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.199
Thank you so much for joining us this week at the meat market.

00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:00.239
And thank you so much, Jill.

00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.440
If you want to snag a date with Jill, go to any of our social media platforms at Meat Market Podcast and send us a DM.

00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.000
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00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.119
Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.

00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.280
He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:28.239
So I found out the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.880
His wife just reached out to me.