June 25, 2025

Love in the Age of Micro-Cheating and Major Red Flags 🚩

James is a real-deal cowboy who still writes his number on napkins and yes, it actually works. This Cave Creek heartthrob joins us to talk about dating in dusty boots, spotting fake cowboys (ahem, “drugstore cowboys”), and why he once got tangled up with a widow who slow-danced like a soulmate but had a boyfriend she couldn’t explain. We also get into the wild world of micro-cheating! Is following your ex on Instagram shady or chill? What about staying “single” on socials? Is watchi...

James is a real-deal cowboy who still writes his number on napkins and yes, it actually works.

This Cave Creek heartthrob joins us to talk about dating in dusty boots, spotting fake cowboys (ahem, “drugstore cowboys”), and why he once got tangled up with a widow who slow-danced like a soulmate but had a boyfriend she couldn’t explain.

We also get into the wild world of micro-cheating!

  • Is following your ex on Instagram shady or chill? 
  • What about staying “single” on socials? 
  • Is watching porn cheating? 


Let’s just say, this debate gets spicy 

From country dancing to painted toenails (big yes), James shares what turns him on, turns him off, and how he keeps it old-school romantic with a side of cowboy charm.

If your love life could use a little more lasso and a lot more honesty, this one’s for you. Yeehaw and press play.

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00:00 - Welcome to The Meat Market

08:09 - Cave Creek Country Life

19:28 - Dating Scene and Relationship History

30:58 - The Keep More Minute: Porn and Cheating

39:06 - Micro-Cheating Behaviors Explored

44:27 - First Date Spots and Fetishes

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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.

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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.

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Welcome to the Meat Market.

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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is James.

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Welcome, James.

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Hello, how are you?

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So we hear that your ex-girlfriend was a control freak.

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We just want to let you know that you are in our studio and you must obey by our rules, capisce?

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Sure.

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He's like I'm out of here.

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He's like I'm ready for divorce number two man so yeah, a controlling woman is not your cup of tea uh, no, absolutely not.

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No, no, what's there to control?

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I mean, I went to work every day, every single day.

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I went to work.

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Yeah, you know, I'm not a uh, stripper, strip club guy.

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I'm not a.

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This is a boy's trip.

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We can't know.

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Why would I want to go with a bunch of boys somewhere, dude, somewhere.

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Why would I want to do that?

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No, absolutely not.

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You seem super laid back and easy going up for a good time.

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Yeah, that's it, man, chill and just uh.

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Yeah, just go with it and try have fun all the time.

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And you know, you never know when you're gonna leave this earth.

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So why not?

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You know.

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So you live out in cave creek.

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I do cave creek it's beautiful.

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Yeah, that's where I grew up my entire life.

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Yep, out there 50, 53 years, I think.

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Yeah, 53 years.

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I grew up in the town at the behind the buffalo chip, where the bull riding is.

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Well, the former buffalo chip, the new one is, uh, wasn't my place, but I grew up out there, yeah, my entire life, yep did you ever ride the bulls there?

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no, no, hell.

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No, I'm not your cup of tea bull riders are uh, they're crazy.

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Yeah, they're crazy guys, they're.

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They're short little guys and they, you know, the shorter the better they're crazy guys.

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No, that's wasn't for me.

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Team roping was what I did, yeah it seems painful when you watch them.

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Oh, it's insane.

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It's got to be hard on your body.

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It's absolutely insane.

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Those guys.

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They're crazy, they really are crazy, yeah.

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Well, the ones that ride the real bulls.

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I always like.

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To watch the women who think they're so sexy right, yeah well, I've never been on a mechanical bowl.

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We're gonna have to go up there, so maybe not that bowl up there so maybe I won't talk about the mechanical I did go on the mechanical bowl at buffalo chips and someone took a video.

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It was not sexy, it was so unattractive.

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Yeah, I was like I'm never doing that again plus those, those bowls up there.

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They're not rank bulls, they're just like half pet, half wild.

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They're not really rank bulls, they're just kind of whatever.

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So it's just a show.

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So there's like there's levels to bulls oh my God, it's insane.

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There's levels to bulls.

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Yeah, the bulls at the NFR are the anifar, are insane, like they live and eat better than people.

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Oh wow, oh yeah, they are cared for.

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Like you wouldn't believe.

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They graze on just the plush filet mignon of alfalfa.

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Oh yeah.

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It's crazy man.

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That's funny.

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Yeah, peta's up there and they protest the anifar every year.

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But these bulls, they are massaged, they are taken care of, they're washed, they're cleaned, they're just.

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Pampered I mean these bulls are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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These stock contractors bring them in and they you know the cowboys know them, these pros, they know them and they see them all year long.

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But it's 10 rounds of insane madness with these bulls up there.

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It'd be kind of fun to come back as one of those bulls in the next life.

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You know, just getting pampered every day.

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Oh yeah.

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And then just being a.

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That's all you do Going after the riders?

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Yeah, so this is going to sound like a dumb question, but I'm blonde, so Are there female bull riders?

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There's got to be right, I wouldn't say at the NFR, at that level.

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No, I don't, I've never seen one.

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No, huh, interesting.

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Team Ropen, yes, barrels, yes.

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I was going to say, because they care more about looking sexy when they're riding the bulls versus actually riding on the bulls, that's for sure.

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Plus, there's a dress code with all that too.

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The PRCA's a dress code with all that too, the prca, because I was going to say if they're female bull riders, I bet they're in demand from the men.

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They know how to ride a bull.

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Good, you know they're in demand, but not riding in the arena.

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Yeah, right.

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So that's funny.

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What's the dating scene like in cave creek?

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How's it?

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How's it going?

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for you.

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It's uh, um, who knows man, I I know a lot of people up there.

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I grew up up there my entire life, so I don't.

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I mean, I don't know everybody, and it's just, uh, it's okay up there.

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Um, I'm not a local like the locals.

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Are they go there all every weekend?

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Like I don't go there every weekend, maybe, maybe twice a month, what?

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are the places Harold's?

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Harold's is good.

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Yeah, that's where.

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I met Jess.

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Yep, yep, that's where I met her.

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He started dancing with one of my friends and I was like I got to get you on the podcast.

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This guy Country dance.

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So why, wasn't that a match.

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She's married still.

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She's married and yeah.

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We'll leave it at that.

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We'll just leave it at that.

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But the dating scene up there is I don't know.

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I have to be careful with that because I know a lot of people up there.

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If I meet someone I don't know if I want to introduce them to all that, and everybody knows everybody and whatever word travels, you know.

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so We've run into that a little bit in the small towns in northern.

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Arizona.

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I feel like it's very common when we go to the cabin and we go out, and in Prescott it's the same thing, everybody knows everybody and people talk and they know when.

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When you're up from the valley you know, they know it's a whole deal up there, for sure, yeah.

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My sister and I were matching glitter tops one time in Prescott, and now we're forever known as the glitter gals.

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That's so funny.

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So you got roping.

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Excuse me, team roping riding, uh, some lived on a ranch for a while but most you know high school football and all that uh roping and just living kind of country life, old school country and just living up there and in the desert and whatnot.

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Of course we went to all the big hair band concerts.

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You know motley crew and oz and Poison and all those guys.

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Ozzy.

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Osbourne All the big hair.

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Yeah, do you find that women are?

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Do they take to your country lifestyle?

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I don't really.

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I live a country lifestyle like old school and kind of you know.

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I get dirty and I hunt and fish and do all that stuff.

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But I don't rope anymore, I don't own horses anymore because it got to be too expensive for one thing and I was wasn't winning any money and getting whiskey bent hell bound, you know you don't win any money.

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so, but uh, I would say more.

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Um, I kind of got away from wearing the hat for a little while, a few years, and I kind of started going back to who I you know where I came from, where I was raised and horses and riding and all that, and so it's gotten more popular, I would say.

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Yeah.

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The country music.

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Oh absolutely.

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The country lifestyle the whole.

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It's kind of trendy right now, kind of trendy whatever you want, the Yellowstone, oh, absolutely, the country lifestyle the whole.

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It's kind of trendy right now.

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Kind of trendy, whatever you want, especially after Yellowstone.

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Yes, yeah, that you know, and there's a lot of drugstore cowboys out there that just wear the.

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I'm going to buy me a hat because I got to look pretty cool.

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Well, with the girls too, they come with the little short shorts and the cowboy boots, that's okay.

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Oh Well, with the girls too, they come with the little short shorts and the cowboy boots.

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Oh, that's okay, we don't care, we're talking about double standards.

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Well, sure.

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It's okay for the girls to do it.

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That's funny.

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Some of them are, but you know, when you meet someone that's just dressing up for that and you meet a cowgirl that really rides and she's you know.

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Back in the day they wore jeans that were called rockies and they had no pockets on the back and they wore them tight and it was, it was tight and it was hot, you know.

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But nowadays they just wear the cutoff shorts and their boots and their hat and their little tank top and they want to dance around and they learn how to line dance on youtube and all that shit but yeah, yeah, it's funny I was.

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I was with some friends from so my sister lives in in texas and dallas so I have friends a lot of friends from texas and a group of friends from el paso, and we were out one night and, um, we saw this table of people sitting, you know, across the restaurant, sort of in the back of the restaurant, and one of the guys in the group was looking back there and he looked really disturbed and we're like what is going on?

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He's like he's not a real cowboy drugstore he's.

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He's wearing his cowboy hat inside.

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A real cowboy would never do that how many they're all judging you?

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Right, well, maybe yeah but it's like I mean, I guess, but that's an old school thing there.

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Yeah, texas Cowboy.

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You sit down to dinner, yep Supper.

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You take your hat off and you eat you know that's.

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yeah, that's old school there.

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Yeah so that's cool.

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Yeah, right on.

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I can just imagine what people say about me and my sister in Prescott when we show up in our sheen cowgirl hat, our sheen cowboy.

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They know you're a tourist for sure.

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So what kind of girl do you go for?

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Do you typically go for the country girl as well?

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Let's see, I like blondes.

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Of course I was married to a brunette, which that's okay.

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She's a Jess, you're a brunette.

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Look at you, beautiful smile.

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My ex-wife, beautiful smile.

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She had her shit together and she's a great mother and she's you know.

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But mostly I'm attracted to blondes.

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But uh, for me it's about um, are you gonna show up if I talk?

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We're gonna talk, we're gonna chat, we're gonna dance whatever.

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Uh, is this just beer talk, or I mean, I don't go through that whole rundown, but most of the time it's just beer talk and dance and da-da-da, da-da-da, we make out whatever and da-da-da.

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Okay, we'll see.

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If you call me next week.

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You take my number.

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I'm not taking your number.

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That's just me lately, do?

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you always write your number.

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So when we met at Harold's and I was like you need to come on the podcast.

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Oh yeah.

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You wrote your number down.

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You wrote your name and your number down on a napkin.

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Right.

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And I think that is a great move.

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I love that.

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Is that your move Is that, when you're giving a woman your number, do you always write it?

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on a napkin, not always, but lately, the past, maybe five women I've met, yeah, Okay, yeah, I.

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Yeah.

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I like that move there's.

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There's been one other guy in my past experiences.

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Realm of excursions yes, yes, that wrote his number on a napkin.

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You know it's memorable it is, and it's cute, it's so cute.

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And I think I still have his numbers, I still talk to him.

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Sometimes he does not, he doesn't live here, but I think it's a I think it's a good move.

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Yeah, no, I don't know.

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I think it's for me.

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I've kind of thought about it and done it.

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It's more personal, I don't know.

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I just I would rather show effort and show interest, like in that, in that little instant just writing it down.

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And I got to find a napkin, I got to find a pen where.

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But it's cool, I love doing that stuff, I love doing.

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It shows a little effort.

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If you have to go find a napkin and find a pen, yeah, that shows that you are willing to go the extra mile.

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Yes, instead of just whipping out your phone, correct?

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yeah, it's cute, yeah because if he's gonna whip out, his phone.

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Guess what else he's gonna all right, I'll drink to that lindsey so you were married, you have a daughter, and why did that?

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Marriage not work out?

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Was she the control she's?

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11, my daughter's 11, going on 30 uh yeah, I grew up so quick, then I'll be locking her up soon.

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I bought several more guns so they don't got to worry about me, they got to worry about her mother.

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I'll just shoot them, her mother, her mother will mind, fuck them like big time she will.

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She will be the one.

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Okay, I'm gonna meet your parents, write your address down.

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You're taking my daughter where and what restaurant and you'll be paying.

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That's her, which is good, good that is good somebody.

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Somebody has no her mother is all about that, that, that, that.

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That that's fine.

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Like I said, I'll just shoot them, yeah, anyway.

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No, uh, but yeah, I was married for uh about three years and uh, she was just a, like I said, she is a great mother, uh, to our daughter.

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She uh has a great career, great life, she does well, she has zero debt.

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She's, you know, she's no drugs and no smoking.

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No, she drinks wine.

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She's a wine woman, which I like wine, uh, but she is just a uh, far left that, if that says anything uh, that whole mindset, plus I believe that at some point she was mentally and verbally abused by her stepdad, is what I believe.

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So she carries some of that trauma.

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She's a huge, that's tough.

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He was a huge control freak.

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That can mess you up.

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Full German, and he controlled her every move, basically.

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Yeah, that's tough.

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You know, elementary school and high school and college and they moved from a town, sunnyvale in California, up near NorCal or Sunnyvale, and so that you know they left whatever.

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That's their choice, whatever Politics was never a thing for me when I married her, or whatever, but her mindset is kind of like that.

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But I believe that she was controlled and manipulated by him because he controlled her every move.

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That's unfortunate and that's got to affect you moving forward.

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Do you agree that people on the far far left could never date someone that's on the far far right?

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That would be difficult.

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No, don't you think, because their values are so, especially if they're really outspoken about it.

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Right, I guess that's why the Love is Blind guy who's going to come on our podcast, he was left at the altar because of their differing opinions Because she was far left Her views on the vaccine and you know, you know gun control that kind of thing was very different than his, but he wasn't far right.

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He was very moderate, like he was in the middle.

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He didn't have.

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Yeah, see, I can't.

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He didn't have strong right at all.

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I'm not far right.

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I'm all about common sense, logical and principles.

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And just because it's the law doesn't mean it's right.

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Yeah, that is the law.

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Whatever, it doesn't mean that that's the right or that's the way it should be.

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There's got to be middle ground here.

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There's got to be a way to have communication, have dialogue, have, like I said, middle ground and meet in the middle and figure something out.

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We never got into really politics dialogue have, like I said middle ground and meet in the middle and figure something out.

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We never, we never, we never got into really politics and I never really knew she was that far over there till later on, after the divorce, and I was gone and whatever.

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But then I started seeing her coming out, or yeah, yeah, it's a whole, nother Oprah.

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So then you said you had a girlfriend after that that was constantly on her phone and that's why it ended.

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Oh my God, she was great, she was fun, we had a great time Constantly on her phone, all the time, all the time.

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Oh, how annoying Was she young.

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No same age as me.

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What was she doing on the phone?

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Same age as me On Instagram, all the time Instagram really.

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Instagram all the time Her little puppy she rescued.

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She had an Instagram page for her dog.

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Wow, she had an Instagram page for her dog the whole.

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Instagram is about her dog, but she's on there.

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I'm not going to say her name, but she's on there pictures of herself with the dog where they go places.

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they go to whatever, and the dog went everywhere with us, didn't matter where we went for me that's a red flag if someone has an instagram page for their pets or their children.

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I think that's kind of a little bit yeah, it was.

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It's a whole the very codependent on this dog.

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Very codependent which the dog was great six pounds, never barked, never.

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Very good little puppy.

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But if we were out somewhere two or three hours dancing, hanging out, whatever, oh, we got to go home.

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We got to get home.

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Well, why?

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Well, ava's there, we gotta, you know gotta get home.

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She could, you know we had to go, didn't matter, we had to go.

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We always had to leave somewhere, wherever we're at, whatever.

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But unless it was a nice dinner, someone couldn't take her.

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But if we were just like random, out hiking or by, you know, cycling or whatever, or out to lunch, the dog always came with us, no matter what.

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Always didn't matter where, grocery store, wherever, the dog always came with us you've mentioned dancing a couple of times have you ever had any drama on the dance floor, have you?

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ever, as far as what.

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Like, like you know how, when you're, I don't well, I don't country dance, so I'm like you know how?

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Like when you see in movies, like if you're dancing with somebody's girl and their boyfriend comes up.

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Have you ever have?

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you ever had to deal with any dance floor drama.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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Several times drama.

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Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, several times, yeah, it can get pretty wild.

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Yeah, is that like competing over the same girl?

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Or I wouldn't say that, uh, just um, I wouldn't.

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I wouldn't say so much anymore nowadays, but back, you know, 30 years ago, 25 years ago.

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Yeah, like if you dance with someone's girl that you didn't know maybe they broke up or whatever then that would be, you know, because we all grew up in cave creeks, everybody.

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Oh, they're over here, heralds are at the chip, we're all gonna go in there.

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No, there's there's.

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Uh, that guy danced with my girl cut right in and next thing, you know, it's it's a shootout.

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No, no shootout, it's just a melee just a bar fight you know pushing whatever.

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And next thing, you know, yeah, the band stops and everybody's, you know, and dragging out, picking up teeth and whatever.

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So yeah, that was old school, but not nowadays.

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It's uh, there's no more fighting anymore with.

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For me anyway, it hurts too much.

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Hurts too much, you know, but there's no more of that.

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When you dance, wherever you're at, the dance floor is usually always crowded, so you're bumping into people, you're always this and that.

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So if you're a good leader, you just kind of watch behind your partner and lead her in a different direction.

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You know You're going to bump into people and say sorry, man, whatever, and you already joke around and banter and just make it fun, make it where there's no confrontation, no BS, no rhetoric.

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There's no need to fight anymore.

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There's no need Just be cool and understand.

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There's 68,000 people on dance floor here.

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Right.

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Just bump into everybody.

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So yeah, but no more of that.

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We have a listener question this week.

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Oh, very good, dear Meat Market, mamacitas and James.

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I've been dating my girlfriend for about a year now and things have been great until recently.

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She found out that I occasionally watch porn and she completely flipped out.

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She said it's cheating and that if I really loved her I wouldn't need or want to look at anyone else, even on a screen.

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I tried to explain that for me it's just something I've done long before we met and that it doesn't mean I'm any less attracted to her or dissatisfied with our relationship.

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It's honestly more of a habit than anything else and I've never thought of it as a betrayal.

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Now she says she's not sure she can trust me.

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I love her and I don't want to lose her, but I also feel like I'm being judged for something I didn't even know was a problem.

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Is watching porn really the same as cheating, and am I in the wrong here?

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What?

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What do you think, james?

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I think that if you're honest about it, if you're open about it, if you watch it together, if he watches it when he's away from her, it's not a problem.

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I think it's a problem when you start hiding it or when you start choosing the porn over your girlfriend, like if you're neglecting her sexually to watch the porn.

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But what if he watches really weird shit?

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Oh, then that's different, like crazy, like animal stuff or I don't know.

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That's a deal breaker, that's disgusting God.

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I can't even believe that's even out there.

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I know right, I've seen some of it so disturbing.

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You've seen some of it.

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Well, not because I chose to watch it.

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I was somewhere and it was.

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Somebody had it on.

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This was a VHS tape, I don't know just how long ago it was.

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It was a horse and a woman.

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Oh my God, oh my gosh.

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So speaking of Texas.

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So I was in El Paso with some of my El Paso friends and one of them told us that there are still donkey shows that go on in Juarez across the border.

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So my friend and I walked across and we went asking people we couldn't find.

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We couldn't find them anywhere.

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I don't think I think we got punked, I think they pranked us.

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I thought you were going to say you went to a donkey shop oh it's real, but we, but we tried, like we tried.

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Cause a miniature, a miniature.

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Donkey's dick is about that fucking long.

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I'm not kidding, really, donkey's dick is about that fucking long, I'm not kidding, really.

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Yeah, like the mini ponies.

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Oh my goodness, no miniature donkey.

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Oh, miniature donkey, I'm not kidding At least that long.

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I'm not kidding, it's disgusting Anywho.

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Okay, this took a weird turn.

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Let's go back to the question.

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Let's get off the animal porn.

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Jess, you're mine.

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I still can't stop thinking about donkey shows anyways yes, um is it cheating?

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no, I don't think it's cheating.

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So my question with the question was is this a man and a woman, or a girl and a?

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girl.

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It reads like a man.

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It reads like a man and a woman.

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Yeah, oh yeah, so oh yeah he said my girlfriend so she thinks it's cheating when he watches porn is do every guy watches porn.

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I don't care who you are, every dude out there watches porn, I think it's I've watched porn.

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Do I do it?

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No, I don't, it's not my thing I don't I think some guys are addicted to watch it with him.

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That's the problem when it becomes an addiction, when it becomes that they'd rather watch the porn than be with their partner.

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I agree, yeah, that's when.

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I would have an issue with it if you stop having sex with me and choose to watch the porn.

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That was my next question.

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How much is there, how much fornicating is going on between those two?

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We don't know, we don't know right, we don't know Anyway.

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But we don't know, we don't know right, we don't know Anyway.

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But Maybe just have a conversation.

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I would say it's a form of micro-cheating.

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I wouldn't say it's like cheating, 100% micro-cheating probably.

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But if he should invite her to watch.

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To watch.

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That's what I think, too, she should maybe want to be more open-minded to well, what do you like?

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Well, what are you watching?

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Whatever minded to what do you like?

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Well, what are you watching?

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Whatever you know.

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But I wouldn't say it's a habit, like how is a watching porn a habit?

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I'd say it's more of a.

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Well, maybe he's used to doing it.

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When he was single he did it so much that he's you know it's still still kind of.

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I have lots of habits, but I never watched porn as a habit.

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I would say yanking it's a habit.

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You know, rubbing one out might be a habit, but that's, that's for everybody man and women do it different, folks see right different strokes so you had mentioned micro cheating.

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Thank, you for the segue, because that's our article that we're going to talk about micro cheating is very common nowadays they say that a very, very high number of people engage in micro cheating so here.

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So here are 20 micro-cheating examples.

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Do we have a definition of micro-cheating?

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Yes, I am going to be there next.

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Micro-cheating is small acts that don't quite fall into the category of physically cheating, but they flirt with being an act of infidelity.

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Any behavior that represents a betrayal of trust is micro-cheating, especially if it's something you wouldn't want your partner to know about.

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So one claiming to be single, going out, acting single, claiming to be single on social media, like you're not necessarily hooking up with someone, but you're still sending the message that you're open to it yeah, exactly.

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So you secretly remain in contact with your ex?

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Yeah, I don't Definitely micro-treating.

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The woman that lived with me with the dog.

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I don't have any contact with her.

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No contact.

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I don't have contact with any of my exes Once.

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I found out that there was more going on other than Instagram and looking at dog videos.

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I knew there was something else going on.

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You're not on your fucking phone that much Right Now.

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I never looked at her phone and never questioned her.

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I was never like, hey, give me your phone, what are you looking at?

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I never did that.

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Not one time did I ever say give me your phone.

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That's controlling, that's jealousy, which is the ugliest emotion ever.

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But now I started to see a pattern of her on her phone all the time, all the time.

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Okay, now, now you're now, I'm starting to wonder what else are you looking at on here?

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all right, yeah, as easily accessible, as everything is, and she's a whiz on that motherfucking goddamn appendage.

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So it's like and I never found out anything 100, but I, I'm not stupid man, it's something else.

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What's going on?

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we've struck a chord with the micro cheating right and I feel like if you think your partner has an issue with what you're doing, then it's probably micro cheating, right and like if you wouldn't want, wouldn't want your partner doing that to you, then I feel like it's micro cheating and you're still on the dating apps.

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Definitely micro cheating because, you're keeping your options open.

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Yeah, what's funny is um, I started dating my husband and we moved in together about a month after we started dating oh same, that's who her and I moved in.

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Oh really, two months, oh wow yeah and we met on tinder, and what's funny is ivana.

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I was at a party and ivana came up to me I remember this she's from serbia.

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I have to tell you something, but I'm too scared to tell you.

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You're going to be so devastated I don't know how to tell you.

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But aaron, he is still on tinder, he's still on the dating apps and, because you know how to know, they keep your profile active even if you delete it.

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They still keep it on there to make it seem like they have more profiles.

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That that's why they want to attract more traffic to obviously.

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I'm surprised they can do that.

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I've never heard of that.

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Because we looked into it and we found out, I'm sure there's something in the user agreement that's that fucking long Probably.

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Nobody reads, yeah, we just click the box.

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Yeah.

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It says oh, we can keep your blah, blah, blah whatever.

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Yeah, probably Because they need good-looking people to attract more traffic.

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Oh, Aaron should feel honored.

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He should feel honored.

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Yeah, that they kept his profile.

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See right the next one is getting a little too close to a friend.

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Having a friend of the opposite sex isn't a problem, but if you're crossing the line and sharing intimate details, then that's micro-cheating.

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Texting someone you're attracted to, definitely even if you're not meeting in person, I feel like it's still micro cheating.

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Confiding in an ex about your relationship issues definitely like why would you do that unless you're still interested in your ex?

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Right trying to impress others?

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Like why would you feel the need to?

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impress others if you're happy in your relationship no need secret keeping talking about sex with someone other than your partner.

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I feel like you shouldn't be talking about sex with anyone of the opposite sex that you're attracted to, right, don't you?

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Agree yeah, yeah, yeah um not so much.

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Not so much intimate details.

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You don't want to have too many like, is it?

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is it like?

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Does it mean like talking about your sex life, or is it like I mean what if you're yeah, what if you're with like a group of friends and they're like jokes are made?

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That's different.

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I think they're referring to like if I was to talk to.

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You know, joe, about me and erin's sex life.

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It's kind of inappropriate, I feel yeah if you're meeting up with people behind your partner's back definitely wrong.

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Following ex-partners on social media.

00:28:41.034 --> 00:28:42.577
I don't know how I feel about this one.

00:28:42.577 --> 00:28:50.271
I'm I think I am friends with a couple of my exes on social media that you dated, though, for, like significant, significant amounts of time.

00:28:50.271 --> 00:28:54.000
Yeah, I mean, it was a long time ago, like in college, yeah.

00:28:54.421 --> 00:28:55.323
That wasn't that long ago.

00:28:56.070 --> 00:28:58.414
How do you feel about that If you're dating a girl and she?

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still follows her exes.

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Here's what's crazy, man.

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I'm friends with a woman that is my age and she's a beautiful woman.

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We've been friends for a few years now and she's a widow.

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They were married 30-some years.

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They had an amazing life.

00:29:15.855 --> 00:29:18.676
He was a great man, very successful.

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They had three children.

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Two of them are adult kids and one is, I think, a junior in high school.

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And she is just the most sweetest, modest, nicest woman I've ever met Sweet, very nice, funny, get along, hung out many times.

00:29:38.448 --> 00:29:41.895
She's called me many times hey, I got some single girls.

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Man, we're going dancing, we're going over here, we're going over there.

00:29:45.238 --> 00:29:46.794
Can you bring some of your friends?

00:29:46.794 --> 00:29:48.159
These girls want to dance, I'm like sure.

00:29:48.159 --> 00:29:50.636
So I brought a few cowboy guys.

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We'll go over there.

00:29:51.179 --> 00:29:59.637
We'll dance with these girls all night, hang out with them, drink banter, hang out.

00:29:59.637 --> 00:30:03.228
And she has a boyfriend huh, yeah, he's a homebody okay he doesn't really go out, he's really doing.

00:30:03.248 --> 00:30:04.712
He has no idea how to country dance.

00:30:04.712 --> 00:30:12.423
Whatever, that's fine, it's okay, it works for them in their relationship does she do more is she she a micro-cheater.

00:30:13.287 --> 00:30:14.088
Yeah, is she more than a?

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micro-cheater.

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Is she a macro-cheater?

00:30:16.898 --> 00:30:19.494
No Right, I've told her that.

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I recently just told her this I go and we have danced very close many times, Like really close, Like slow dancing with country music is can be very intimate it can be, yeah, country dancing drama like, and she, like I said she is the nicest, sweetest.

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She tells me on time you were such a nice guy, you're a catch and you know whatever, and she's always.

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I respect her very much.

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But I'm, I'm starting to.

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I told her, I said you know, we've danced a lot very close here, where your head is here on my shoulder and I'm, I've, I've, I've told you things, said things to you and I've said to her I go, look, I have to be careful what I say to you, cause there's some tension here between you and I that could go down a road here.

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And she goes oh, I know, I feel it, I know I go.

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But you have a boyfriend and I've asked her many, many times.

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So you got what's the attraction?

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What is the attraction to your guy?

00:31:24.928 --> 00:31:26.372
They've been dating for a year.

00:31:26.372 --> 00:31:27.977
What's the attraction?

00:31:27.977 --> 00:31:31.648
Her answer three words.

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I don't know Are you serious?

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I thought you were going to say a big one.

00:31:39.842 --> 00:31:42.150
I thought he was going to say lots of money.

00:31:42.903 --> 00:31:46.186
No, no, no, we never got into the whole financial shit.

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How long has she been with him?

00:31:47.210 --> 00:31:49.114
for Like a year, what?

00:31:49.114 --> 00:32:02.506
And we have talked many times about this guy, whatever in in some detail and their connection is uh, he's a widow as well and she's a widow.

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That's their connection.

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Okay, I understand that.

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That's fine.

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That's fine.

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Okay.

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Again, here you are calling your girls, I call some cowboys.00:32:13.226 --> 00:32:14.344


We go dance with you girls.00:32:14.344 --> 00:32:18.348


Many times over the last few years, many times hang out, dance with them.00:32:18.348 --> 00:32:19.231


I always dance with her.00:32:19.231 --> 00:32:23.950


She's a great dancer, she dances very good and I'm not crazy with it.00:32:24.029 --> 00:32:30.769


I don't do pretzel and all that I'm out there just to dance and kind of get close.00:32:30.769 --> 00:32:33.821


Let me ask you this if she broke up with her boyfriend, would you want to date her?00:32:34.202 --> 00:32:51.709


well, that's the thing is like if you're micro cheating with me I was gonna say that's true, right, and I and I and I've just kind of introduced her and told her about this micro cheating thing with her and I she's like what I go really you're not, I go.00:32:51.709 --> 00:32:52.490


Does he know you're here?00:32:52.490 --> 00:33:02.131


Well, no, well, that was like the first thing on the list does he know you're here, I go, so again, and I've told her what's the attraction.00:33:02.131 --> 00:33:08.087


I don't know, they're still together no, do they live together?00:33:08.308 --> 00:33:10.759


no, no, they don't, they don't it's easy to break off.00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.353


She has a 17 year old boy that's still in school, high school and, uh, they don't live together, so it's easy to break up.00:33:13.353 --> 00:33:17.186


She has a 17-year-old boy that's still in school, high school, and they don't live together.00:33:17.186 --> 00:33:20.565


No, how far away he lives, I don't know, I don't really get into that.00:33:20.585 --> 00:33:21.448


So why does she stay with him?00:33:21.448 --> 00:33:22.250


I don't understand.00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:23.925


See another question.00:33:23.925 --> 00:33:35.340


My question to her always is after she, after her and I chat about some things and this and that she'll tell me?00:33:35.442 --> 00:33:37.667


stuff about what they did and this and I go okay, what's the attraction?00:33:37.667 --> 00:33:38.691


I don't know interesting interesting.00:33:38.711 --> 00:33:46.188


I don't know that's her answer every fucking time, because it really frustrates me.00:33:46.188 --> 00:33:50.054


It's like oh so where'd you guys go this weekend?00:33:50.054 --> 00:33:53.244


Oh, I wanted to go up to uh sedona and hang out, whatever.00:33:53.244 --> 00:33:56.011


Then he just changed and wanted to go to Prescott for the day and come home.00:33:56.333 --> 00:34:06.087


See, and my fear with, if they did break up and then you're with someone like that because it seems like she's got one foot in the door and one foot out, right, then she's going to be that way with you too.00:34:06.087 --> 00:34:15.762


So it's like can with me, because I wouldn't put up with that.00:34:15.802 --> 00:34:16.224


For eight seconds.00:34:16.224 --> 00:34:18.266


Yeah you, you notice it right away hell.00:34:18.347 --> 00:34:19.369


No, I told you that.00:34:19.369 --> 00:34:24.623


I said, well, if you're my girlfriend, there's no way in hell I would put up with that.00:34:24.744 --> 00:34:30.922


Yeah, whatever so the next one, liking and commenting on someone else's photos, but it depends on who.00:34:30.922 --> 00:34:33.570


I guess it's some if it's someone you're attracted to and it depends.00:34:33.630 --> 00:34:39.588


If it's like heart eye emojis and fire emojis, that's true.00:34:39.608 --> 00:34:53.168


I think it depends on eggplant emoji with a water sushi emoji with a tongue after just the garden holes the cat yeah right emotional cheating via text.00:34:53.168 --> 00:35:05.769


Obviously, if you lie about who you talk to, definitely if you feel like you have to lie, then it's wrong hitting on other people there, sending photos to other other people, giving out your number.00:35:05.769 --> 00:35:12.601


There's no need if you're in a relationship, I feel, unless you're recruiting for the meat market then I'm giving everyone my business card.00:35:12.782 --> 00:35:15.307


See, I had her number before they met.00:35:15.527 --> 00:35:22.103


We were, we were already friends before that yeah uh, disrespecting your partner in any way.00:35:22.103 --> 00:35:29.246


This can involve talking to people your partner would not want you to talk to or engaging in any behavior behind their back that would.00:35:29.246 --> 00:35:30.628


They would find it hurtful.00:35:30.628 --> 00:35:36.789


Um, if you find yourself pursuing a crush, your social media profile is deceptive.00:35:36.789 --> 00:35:42.784


If you try to hide your significant other on social media, or if you appear to be single on social media, that's my pet peeve.00:35:43.523 --> 00:35:47.045


It's when people are in a relationship or married and they hide it on social media.00:35:47.045 --> 00:35:48.048


It happens all the time.00:35:48.048 --> 00:35:50.286


Oh yeah, I hear about it all the time.00:35:50.326 --> 00:35:53.922


Yeah, Verbal cheating, you know, flirty chatter.00:35:53.922 --> 00:36:00.090


I feel like this happens all the time too, right, Not physical cheating, but I feel like it's still cheating if you're sexting someone, you know.00:36:00.351 --> 00:36:00.711


Oh yeah.00:36:00.952 --> 00:36:01.552


There you have it.00:36:01.552 --> 00:36:02.034


That's it.00:36:02.034 --> 00:36:03.155


That's micro-cheating for you.00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.043


So yeah, it's a thing now, and it's very common To go back to this woman.00:36:07.043 --> 00:36:16.242


I know she let's see, they were hanging out a couple few weeks ago, whatever, and I was out ripping around and dancing whatever.00:36:16.242 --> 00:36:19.085


I said, hey, I'm going over here to dance, are you coming up?00:36:19.085 --> 00:36:21.025


And I just threw it at her because we're friends.00:36:21.025 --> 00:36:22.063


We're friends.00:36:22.063 --> 00:36:24.001


So I get a text from her.00:36:24.001 --> 00:36:26.650


She goes I told you I was going with my boyfriend.00:36:26.650 --> 00:36:28.885


I don't know why you're texting me, please stop.00:36:28.925 --> 00:36:34.630


And I already knew that was him he was texting you from her phone, for sure.00:36:34.690 --> 00:36:36.925


No no, no, he made her do it.00:36:37.590 --> 00:36:38.516


He made her do it First.00:36:38.577 --> 00:36:40.887


He called First she called me and I didn't answer.00:36:42.483 --> 00:36:44.469


I knew it was him, whatever.00:36:44.469 --> 00:36:52.393


So then a couple days goes by, she calls me and tells me that hey, how'd it go, how was your night?00:36:52.393 --> 00:36:55.380


What did I?00:36:55.380 --> 00:36:56.664


Uh, hey, uh, how'd it go, how was your night, what did I do?00:36:56.664 --> 00:36:57.465


Good, I go, yeah, how was your night?00:36:57.465 --> 00:36:57.987


She goes oh, he was pissed.00:36:57.987 --> 00:36:58.208


I go, why?00:36:58.208 --> 00:36:58.548


Well, you text.00:36:58.548 --> 00:36:59.672


I go, okay.00:36:59.692 --> 00:37:00.413


So how did he know?00:37:00.413 --> 00:37:03.380


Well, he he knows my code to my phone.00:37:03.380 --> 00:37:05.385


I go what the fuck are you talking about?00:37:05.385 --> 00:37:06.289


How does he know your code?00:37:06.289 --> 00:37:11.507


Well, he saw that you text and I went down to my bedroom to get something or do something.00:37:11.507 --> 00:37:23.121


I came back and just coincidentally you had texted that time he saw my phone, got into it and saw your message and and made me text you that and try to call you to tell you.00:37:23.121 --> 00:37:27.550


I go, okay, so you go down to your room to get stuff.00:37:27.550 --> 00:37:32.190


What right did he feel he had to go into your phone to look at anything?00:37:32.190 --> 00:37:34.860


No matter what, that's a form of disrespect.00:37:34.860 --> 00:37:37.364


Right there it really is.00:37:37.364 --> 00:37:38.909


I mean, do you go in his phone?00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:40.070


no I go.00:37:40.070 --> 00:37:41.342


Well then, why would he go on your phone?00:37:41.342 --> 00:37:43.913


Maybe he knows that she's being a little bit dodgy.00:37:43.913 --> 00:37:45.521


How the fuck does he know your code well?00:37:45.601 --> 00:37:52.606


and that's the thing if, if you're gonna be doing these micro cheating things, you probably shouldn't let your be smart about it, right?00:37:52.626 --> 00:38:03.248


don't leave your phone, don't let them get your code exactly you can leave your phone there, but you don't like rule number one of micro cheating is don't let your partner know your phone password.00:38:03.568 --> 00:38:06.280


It's so true like she's, I don't know.00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.393


Sometimes she's out there in morgue land, whatever.00:38:10.534 --> 00:38:15.342


But so now it's time, for the celebrity cut will be marinate in the juices of the celebrities.00:38:15.342 --> 00:38:26.079


So do you remember when travis kelsey unfollowed ryan reynolds and it was a huge deal, and you were like, how do people even notice that he unfollowed him anyhow, it's now come out.00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.947


Do you know the whole blake lively drama with taylor swift?00:38:28.987 --> 00:38:29.688


a little bit.00:38:29.688 --> 00:38:31.121


Yeah, something like that.00:38:31.141 --> 00:38:50.722


Yeah, a little bit, so it's now come out that Blake Lively's team sent a legal letter to Taylor Swift stating that Taylor Swift needs to publicly support Blake Lively and if Taylor Swift does not do this, blake Lively's going to release five years' worth of text messages between the two and that same day.00:38:50.722 --> 00:38:58.126


This letter was sent this when travis yeah, this is when travis kelsey unfollowed ryan reynolds, apparently.00:38:58.447 --> 00:39:00.873


Oh yeah, and so now um.00:39:01.114 --> 00:39:08.612


Justin baldoni's lawyer is releasing this, stating like look at the blackmail, look at the inappropriate behavior of this team.00:39:08.652 --> 00:39:10.001


Yeah, can you taylor.00:39:10.001 --> 00:39:11.943


Swift has more money than bl Lively.00:39:12.023 --> 00:39:14.606


Well, yeah, seriously, and more cars, yeah.00:39:15.188 --> 00:39:18.992


But can you imagine doing that to a friend, like they were best friends for how many years?00:39:19.032 --> 00:39:22.115


So of course they had intimate text messages yeah, a long time.00:39:22.501 --> 00:39:25.260


I'm sure they talk about inappropriate stuff, because we do that as friends.00:39:25.260 --> 00:39:28.925


We talk about you know our deep, dark secrets, or talking about other people.00:39:29.541 --> 00:39:35.313


Yeah, or if she ever texted her about issues she was having in her relationship or things like that that you don't want.00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.498


Sure, blake Lively knew about Diddy of course Right.00:39:38.681 --> 00:39:39.423


Yeah, Taylor knew.00:39:39.826 --> 00:39:40.708


She probably got invited.00:39:40.708 --> 00:39:41.664


She's like fuck no.00:39:43.181 --> 00:39:50.090


So, anyways, that's the new gossip, in that case, that Blake Lively was blackmailing one of her best friends.00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:52.405


I'm sure they're not best friends now Does Blake Lively need money?00:39:52.405 --> 00:39:55.630


No, apparently they're worth like $400 million, or something.00:39:55.710 --> 00:39:57.594


Well, she's worth like $2 billion.00:39:57.614 --> 00:39:57.914


That's true.00:39:57.980 --> 00:40:05.333


But I think Blake Lively is just trying to win this case against Justin Baldoni to make herself.00:40:06.340 --> 00:40:08.045


Taylor just righted her To fix her image.00:40:08.268 --> 00:40:09.826


I think she's just trying to fix her image.00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:22.088


I was going to say she's so into her image and repairing her image, and that's probably why she wanted the support of taylor swift.00:40:22.088 --> 00:40:22.489


Yeah, so badly, yeah.00:40:22.489 --> 00:40:23.731


And where is your favorite place to go on a first date?00:40:23.731 --> 00:40:24.492


My favorite place, man?00:40:24.492 --> 00:40:39.876


Uh, I would say somewhere like just a little tiny uh nothing too pretentious of course somewhere, you, somewhere, you know, just kind of cool, quiet, kind of just nothing too out there.00:40:39.876 --> 00:40:43.208


Maybe meet in the middle, whatever.00:40:43.769 --> 00:40:44.431


Handlebar J's.00:40:45.222 --> 00:40:50.605


Well, no, no, not first date, no, You'll wait until the third date.00:40:50.664 --> 00:40:51.487


Maybe third date.00:40:53.043 --> 00:40:57.356


Maybe somewhere like Trevor's?00:40:57.356 --> 00:40:58.018


Oh yeah.00:40:58.038 --> 00:40:58.619


Oh, I like Trevor's.00:40:58.619 --> 00:41:00.099


They have fun cocktails there.00:41:00.219 --> 00:41:02.469


They have a great little place there, you know not too many.00:41:02.469 --> 00:41:07.557


I mean, the new one by PV Mall is a little pretentious, not too bad, but you can still go in there.00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.244


I will say that place is expensive.00:41:09.244 --> 00:41:13.891


Oh, it ain't cheap oh my God, it's like more expensive than vegas prices I feel like the cocktails are like over 20 dollars.00:41:14.472 --> 00:41:16.474


Their martini is good though, is it yeah?00:41:17.074 --> 00:41:19.456


but I like, you know, I like little hole-in-the-wall places.00:41:19.456 --> 00:41:24.985


Larry's cocktails is good, marcell's is all right, but little, they'll just hold dive.00:41:24.985 --> 00:41:26.931


You know, I'm kind of a country boy, you know.00:41:26.931 --> 00:41:31.248


So whatever, I love that but, I do like to go to nice places.00:41:31.248 --> 00:41:39.918


Uh, you know, hannah bar jays, of course, is always my favorite, because the hernan brothers run it and it's awesome and it's been there forever and it's a good nightcap place.00:41:39.938 --> 00:41:42.349


Yeah, it's girl, it's awesome I love that place, man.00:41:42.369 --> 00:41:47.706


Yeah, plus I'm good friends with ron the, the keyboard player, okay good friends with him and they're just.00:41:47.706 --> 00:41:50.773


They're just artists and they play just.00:41:50.773 --> 00:41:51.521


They can play anything.00:41:51.521 --> 00:41:53.445


They're awesome, man, they're so.00:41:54.007 --> 00:42:02.469


Now it's time for the most delicious segment of the show Zo-Yo and Tell All right, Sponsored by Zo-Yo, your neighborhood yogurt.00:42:03.940 --> 00:42:04.242


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To pick a card.00:42:05.025 --> 00:42:06.284


I'm really excited for this.00:42:06.284 --> 00:42:08.027


I hope you get a dirty one.00:42:09.661 --> 00:42:11.324


I hope he gets a dirty one too Right.00:42:13.630 --> 00:42:19.927


Kingsters, woo-hoo, oh, I don't have my glasses on.00:42:21.221 --> 00:42:22.123


Do you want me to read it for you?00:42:22.846 --> 00:42:24.010


Yeah, that'd be great.00:42:24.010 --> 00:42:25.465


My glasses are in the truck.00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:26.965


Don't read it if it's a vanilla one.00:42:26.965 --> 00:42:32.514


My biggest fetish is Ooh, that's a good one Fetish.00:42:32.554 --> 00:42:32.916


Fetish.00:42:32.916 --> 00:42:34.485


That's a loaded question.00:42:34.505 --> 00:42:34.827


Uh-huh.00:42:34.827 --> 00:42:36.827


He's like where do I begin?00:42:36.827 --> 00:42:37.831


How is that loaded?00:42:37.851 --> 00:42:39.219


He's like, let me get the scroll out.00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:41.061


Fetish could be really anything Could be.00:42:41.061 --> 00:42:42.929


There's different levels of fetish.00:42:43.311 --> 00:42:43.833


Oh, okay.00:42:44.295 --> 00:42:44.476


Right.00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:45.525


Well, sexual fetish.00:42:45.525 --> 00:42:47.085


What is your biggest sexual fetish?00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.148


Jess would you expect anything less from Jess?00:42:52.289 --> 00:42:53.050


Absolutely not.00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:58.786


This is fantastic man Sexual fetish.00:42:58.786 --> 00:43:03.751


I'm a sucker for painted toenails man.00:43:03.751 --> 00:43:15.864


I'm not a foot fetish guy, but if a woman has manicured painted toenails I don't know what it is it turns just.00:43:15.864 --> 00:43:18.088


I don't know what it is, it just turns me on.00:43:18.088 --> 00:43:18.969


I don't know why.00:43:20.050 --> 00:43:22.355


Okay, that and Controlling women Dominate chickses.00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:23.021


No.00:43:23.523 --> 00:43:24.586


I ain't into that bullshit.00:43:24.586 --> 00:43:25.489


Who's been a nutty boy?00:43:25.980 --> 00:43:33.134


I'm into like, just like loving romantic stuff and soft stuff.00:43:33.134 --> 00:43:34.539


Oh, you're a mushy gushy one.00:43:34.539 --> 00:43:37.487


Softy stuff and lay on my shoulder.00:43:37.547 --> 00:43:38.992


So you like to cuddle?00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:39.782


Yo my.00:43:39.842 --> 00:43:42.405


God, who wouldn't you like to be the big spoon?00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:44.005


Yeah, of course.00:43:44.005 --> 00:43:46.907


Yeah, the ladle, the ladle.00:43:48.501 --> 00:43:50.146


That is hilarious.00:43:50.307 --> 00:43:50.608


Right.00:43:50.608 --> 00:44:23.771


But I would say sexual fetish would be a woman that obviously you know takes care of herself, that still has either some little bush down there landing strip patch, whatever you want to call it, something down there that is still there, that is, you know, trimmed, nice and you know, you know, might make me sneeze, tickle my nose, whatever you know.00:44:23.771 --> 00:44:33.775


But uh, I don't know that to me, that to me, that I'm just turned on by that, not this, not sasquatch, you know something that's just you know Something, that's just you know Something right in the middle, yeah.00:44:33.795 --> 00:44:42.789


Yeah, not fully involved, but Great I know, yeah, yeah, that's a whole other Oprah that called thing.00:44:42.829 --> 00:44:44.231


That's cool, that's great.00:44:44.291 --> 00:44:45.454


Whatever, but I don't know.00:44:46.262 --> 00:44:50.608


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Bye, all right.00:45:13.782 --> 00:45:16.407


Oh my God, I just totally got catfished.00:45:16.407 --> 00:45:18.447


He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.00:45:18.940 --> 00:45:23.548


So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.00:45:23.548 --> 00:45:25.704


His wife just reached out to me.