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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.
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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.
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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.
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His wife just reached out to me.
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Welcome to the Meat Market.
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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.
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We are your hosts.
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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is Allie from the Valley.
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Welcome, hey.
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Oh my God, I'm super excited to be here.
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So you had mentioned that you grew up for a part of your childhood in your car, but now you own four homes, so tell us about this transition.
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Yeah absolutely so.
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My sister and I my twin sister and I are super close.
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Her name is Taylor and you know it was.
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It was kind of unfortunate just being a child, you know, a product of domestic violence and you know, gosh, we're really getting in the thick of it right now.
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And she's someone.
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Better take a Xanax.
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Take a Xanax if you're listening to this like over here, morphine soup, you know, but um, no.
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So yeah, it was.
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It was very interesting at such a young age like just seeing the the iciness and the sharpness that life could be.
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Um, and it was.
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You know, there's funny things when you grow up like we were in a domestic violence shelter some days, and some days we couldn't be there because there's so many people that need help, and so it's like a reason why I hate peanut butter jelly sandwiches because it's like all you know we would eat some weeks like on and on and on, um and then um, yeah, just kind of saying like, oh, my god, like you know, there's no cell phones, there's no nothing, there's no call for help.
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And seeing how strong my mom was, that she was always just like, as long as I have my girls, you know I'm good, and that was so inspiring to me.
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But yeah, absolutely, my sister and I, when we finally got in school you know first grade it was pretty apparent that like we need to get the fuck up out of here.
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You know, we had traveled from Texas to Nogales, we had eventually settled in Tubac and Rio Rico.
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So I'm a true native here to Arizona.
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I love Arizona.
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I just I love that we're growing and all those amazing things, but it was definitely just challenging.
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It's something that I would never wish on.
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You know my worst enemy just making it through that.
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But no, you know, I realized I got to get an education, I got to better myself.
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No one's going to do it for you and if you want something done, you do it yourself.
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So I'm still the only college grad from my family.
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And yeah, but yeah, very hard.
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What was your college degree in?
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It was in secondary education.
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I have two minors in African American literatureAmerican literature and business administration.
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Oh wow.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so in high school I was a CB student.
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I had to like beg the teacher you know, can I be in National Honor Society?
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And she's like you got to pull your GPA up by like two points, and so it was just always like backwards planning, like I know where I want to get, how do I get there, how do I do it?
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Let's work smarter, not harder.
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But it was interesting.
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All throughout high school I cleaned homes for a lot of my teachers and I'm like, ooh, okay, here's the underwear drawer we're going to, or the, the, the couple, the teacher couple that were like the most gorgeous thing I've ever seen clean their house and I'm like, oh, they're in the bedroom.
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Okay, got here a little too early oh my gosh, what do we do?
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but um no, so it was like it just was survival mode, like up until I was pretty much 25, when I felt like I was really, you know, making money and living good so you're a hustler.
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You know the meaning of hard work and you worked hard to get to where you are now yeah, absolutely, and it's kind of one of the things of who you surround yourself with like a hundred percent, and you know, um, I know I'd mentioned a little bit of like my last relationship and you know the thing is is that, um, you know, when you surround yourself with people who are constantly like allowing you to be yourself, be creative, like all my friends are business owners or um, you know, they're, they're older and they offer something, you know, which I think is just so beautiful, and I was, um, yeah, that relationship was a little bit of a.
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It was a little bit of a, you know, of a, of a, of a mess.
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What did you learn from your last relationship?
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of a mess.
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What did you learn from your last relationship?
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Um, you know, I learned that, unfortunately, I was dating a shell of a person.
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And you know, toxicity can it's not just associated with females or it's not.
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You know, it's not your sex, your gender, however you identify with is not, you know, does not associate being toxic one more with the other.
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But you know, I had someone that was demanding space at my table and granted, none of my friends, you know, get to eat at my table for free, or people that are in my circle, but you don't have to.
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You know, you don't have to earn your spot.
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But you know, some of my friends, they either bring the people in my circle, they bring joy, or they bring mentorship, or they bring guidance, or they bring passion, or they're influential to me.
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You know, allie, you should go for that thing that you want to do.
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Or you know, hey, allie, you know I noticed that.
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You know you want to do more of this thing.
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Let's do it together, let's learn something together, and so I think what was difficult with that is that I had a group of people in my last relationship that really wanted me to provide for them as well, whether it be spiritual, physical, or hey, can we use your car, or hey, can you spot me at dinner?
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And I will tell you, older is not always better.
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And I will tell you, older is not always better.
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You know, it's very difficult and challenging to get someone up to your level and it's go.
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It's always going to be easier for people to bring you down to their level.
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It's always going to be easier for you to downgrade yourself, you know, than to say hey, you know, let's, let's go up here together.
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And you know you're dating someone who's 54 years old and is judging you while they have $12 in the bank and their whole group of friends are saying you guys are messy, you guys are, you know, chaotic.
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Yeah, man, what the fuck Like.
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We're all business owners.
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We take care of each other's kids.
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You know, sometimes we wake up in the middle of the night with a great idea and we're calling each other, or some of my friends that are in their 60s.
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You know they're, they're, they offer that, you know, just guidance and mentorship, like I said, and so I, you know I wasn't really fitting in with this group of people who, you know they, they want to seek validation from 20 somethings.
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They want to still be out in old town.
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They want to wake up at 11 and, you know, grab the marijuana gummies.
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And that's not me.
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I'm waking up at seven saying let's go get this fucking bread and let's do it together.
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Because, you know, I very much practice the Michelangelo effect.
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I love being able to like okay, I'm going to reach this level.
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But then also I have friends that come to me and say, hey, Ali, I have this amazing idea, how do I monetize it?
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What do I do with it?
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And I say, oh, my God, you know, let me catch your blind spots for you.
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So it wasn't really working out, because if your lifestyles are different, it's never going to work out.
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And I had a person that was not only demanding a spot at my table but then wanted to bring their bottom feeder friends with them and I couldn't provide for them everything that they needed.
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And if someone can't even show up for themselves, you know, you don't have to be judgmental in a relationship, but being like, observant, like, okay, my partner said they're going to go to the gym this week, but they've never gone.
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Or my partner said he's going to start picking up my son from school.
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You know, I didn't even really ask him that, but it hasn't happened yet.
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He hasn't done it.
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So if you can't show up for yourself, there's no way you're going to show up for me or be able to lead a family or guide a family.
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Or, you know, you're in your beta stage of masculinity and now you're pulling me out of my feminine space, where I should never even be I'm.
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You know, you've gone from an asset to a liability, and because I'm so business oriented, that's what I think and um, so it's gonna be, that's gonna be challenging you would make the comment that Scottsdale is the absolute worst place that you've ever dated.
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So tell us about some of your bad dates that you've been on oh god, um, most of them are gonna end in me like fading into the bushes, like simpson style I had a guy years ago.
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You know, I had a guy years ago who was selling drugs on our date.
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Wait what?
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yeah, he said he was an entrepreneur and I was like oh okay, that type of entrepreneur okay cool so, just like, only fan models are entrepreneurs Right right, yeah, exactly.
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So I was like, okay, but he kept going to the bathroom and it was at Loco Patron in Scottsdale.
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So the thing is his friends are coming in the back to meet him in the bathroom to sell drugs and I'm thinking this guy must have IBS.
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What kind of drugs, though?
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The important question.
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What was?
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What kind of drugs, though?
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The important?
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question.
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I don't know.
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You know it was like I had no, you know it ended up being cocaine, but and I'm like you know I was a high school teacher at the time, so I'm like, oh my God, you know, freaked out like totally just the hair on the back of my neck stood up.
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And you know, my sister and I have held down like two to three jobs at a time.
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So you know, scottsdale is going to be an interesting place because my sister and I lived in Newport beach, we lived in Laguna beach, we lived in areas where people really have money.
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I mean, we worked Coachella like four to five times.
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And you come to Scottsdale and you're like this person really thinks they're something, like this person really thinks you care.
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This person really, you know, thinks that okay, when they walk in the room everyone's taking notice and um, that it's just it's a very weird place and so, and and it's funny, that's where, you know, my ex is now and, um, again, I don't need validation from young 20 somethings because that's, I'm past that.
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But yeah, you won't catch me in Scottsdale, I'll probably be like Arcadia or you know, just somewhere else, but yeah, so you made the comment that you you look like you're an untraditional woman in the sense that you ride motorcycles, you have tattoos, but you're actually traditional at heart.
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You're religious.
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You waited a very long time to have sex for the first time.
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Tell us about that yeah, oh God, and thank you for asking about that.
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Um, I just feel and I've noticed, and this kind of leads back to Scottsdale.
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I had a guy who sold drugs on a date, you know.
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I had a guy who, like, was texting two other girls and you know, one of them sent a picture of, like her breasts and I saw it, you know, and all that stuff you know I had.
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Oh my God, I had a guy who, like, didn't have a car and then, like, lied about it and it's weird, weird shit, man.
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So just don't date in Scottsdale, but anyways, so it was, yeah, like I just didn't find my identity in who I was with or who I was going to have sex with or who I was.
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It scared me.
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It has scared me growing up.
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Like how many people when they go out, they're not just out to have a good time with their friends?
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I had no idea.
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Like the ulterior motive is like who can I go home with?
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I've never been that person.
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I was engaged for a very long time when I was young and then when I came out after I lost my virginity to my fiance at the time I was 22 and I was celibate for two years.
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So I dated myself.
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I got.
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My parents would feel so bad.
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My dad thought I was a lesbian for like the longest time.
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You know, like Allie, can I ask you something?
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I'm like dad, I'm not gay.
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Like my God, he's like no, where's the remote?
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You know shit?
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Okay, but no, so it just to me.
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I really wanted to figure out who I am, and the more and more that you know who you are, the faster it is to identify red flags going into a relationship.
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Um, because you're not looking from validation, from from others and things of that.
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But I felt like God, just totally, just let me know, like you're beautiful, You're more than capable.
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And I think the good message for women these days even like you're beautiful, you're more than capable.
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And I think the good message for women these days, even though you're hurt, it's for men and women is you know there's a difference between being available and being accessible.
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You can look available and nice and laugh with some guys that buy you a drink at the bar and be nice and have really great bedside manner, but when you're bitter and you're negative, that's just not any.
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You know you don't want to be around a person like that.
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So what are you looking for?
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Are you looking to get married?
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Are you looking to have kids?
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So you have been married and you have kids, right I?
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was almost married and then I found out he cheated on me three weeks before our wedding.
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No three weeks before your wedding.
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Before your wedding.
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Yeah, yeah, and again, you know God, I just did it all wrong because I'm the one that put the fucking deposit down, you know, at 21.
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Like.
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Why am?
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I dating these broke men, like you know.
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So anyways, but yeah, I would love to get married.
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If I can stay looking like this, I'd love to have four more kids, three more kids.
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Really you want a big family.
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Yeah, like I love the noise in the house.
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My sister and I were the first homeowners out of our friends and so I just fit.
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I feel like when people come in, you know, like I tell them, like I'm not gonna offer twice, you know where the food is, you know where this, like I'm already just that true built-in best friend.
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So speaking of a lot of kids.
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Don't you have a cousin that's married or a baby mama?
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To Nick Cannon.
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I do, yeah, yeah, elisa, she's living in Long Beach.
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Nick bought her a beautiful home and you know she is just so beautiful.
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I mean, everyone in my family is pretty much modeled, so I'm like what the fuck happened to me?
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You're beautiful, what are you talking about?
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No, that's okay, but yeah, yeah, and so it was.
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It was sad learning about bb's in and um, just, that's my mom's side of the family and that side of the family is actually greek and irish, and so that's what elisa is.
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And then my uncle, scott is, is, uh, this like big, handsome black guy that used to be like, um, I think he was deputy of like fresno police or something.
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So yeah, so tell us what your ideal partner is.
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My ideal partner is someone who really knows who they are and loves themselves.
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Because when you go from someone who's looking to you to be able to provide that, that sense of identity for them, that is not only going to be challenging challenging but it's going to be very difficult because we're not made to provide that for another.
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Um, you know, I mean I, I want someone who, if they're 54, has friends that are around 50 and not 30 somethings, because it makes them feel younger.
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You know, those are things that I don't identify with, because I'm like the way that I feel about myself is totally just from my internal being, my connection with God and how I feel bold and loving and successful, and so, no matter how much rejection or abandonment you want to throw at me, I actually don't have to receive it.
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And.
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I think that's just so beautiful.
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So I would say for my ideal guy is them knowing who they are, and execution, you know, trust and faith.
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All those fucking things are amazing and great, but like sometimes when the bottom of the barrel is, like here, like okay, is he out of jail?
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Does he have a job?
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Does he have a job?
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Does he have more than $12 in his bank account?
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Thank you, yeah, exactly Does he have teeth.
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Oh exactly, does he have teeth?
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Oh yeah, or like you know, my ex had two roommates and I'm just like why are we dealing with roommates right now, like you guys are in your 40s?
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and your 50s.
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And he was 50-something.
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Yeah, yeah exactly so.
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I would look for someone who's a homeowner credit score over 700.
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If you have a kid, great, whichever.
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Like you know, I'm totally not judgy and I just want someone who's committed to themselves, because when you observe and see someone doing so much for themselves and showing up, you know that that's a pretty good indication that they're going to be able to do that for you.
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So what are your hobbies?
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What do you do on the weekends?
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Oh, cry, have an existential crisis?
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Um, you know, ask, you know, increase credit line?
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No, I'm kidding.
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Um, no, I ride my motorcycle.
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I skateboard with my son.
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Um, you know, I, I, I paint.
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Um, I work a lot.
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So I'm a website developer and I love doing things for my clients, like, even when they don't ask, I'm like, oh, my God, you need to see this, like this is really cool.
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So everything I do, like I'm just so fucking passionate about it you seem very passionate about life and about everything Like.
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I'll get up out of bed if I'm like that's a fucking good idea and I'll write it down in my little black book and so.
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But it's spending a lot of time with good, good people and good friends.
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Like I said, my whole circle is creatives.
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They're here in Phoenix, they're good people, they're inclusive to everyone, which I just think is so beautiful.
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You know whether you're Republican black, blue, yellow so a lot of times it's, you know, spending time with my friends and their kids.
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So if you catch me on a Saturday, I'm probably at a park with a bunch of kids and we're playing and we're just, we're just hanging out out so is it true that you?
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pay child support.
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I do, yeah, um, so, please, please, wife me up someone who's rich someone who's?
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and has money and has some money.
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Um, yeah, it's.
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Uh, arizona is not a mother state and I just, you know, there's things that have happened in my life where I'm like, of, of course, that would fucking happen to me, you know.
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But this is, the thing is like there's every sugar baby under the sun in Scottsdale and I dress like this I wear $45 Vans, I wear $25 jeans.
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You know, this shirt is probably from T-Mu, it probably has some lead in it.
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Sponsored by Froyo.
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No, sponsored by fro-yo.
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No, like I, uh, yeah, like it's.
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It's unfortunate, but again, it was another partner that I was with that really looked to me to be the decision maker, to be the alpha, and that was exhausting because at our true core and femininity, we're looking for rest, we're looking to be enablers and influencers, but we, we do.
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You could be the most like you know feminine person out there, but when you get with a man, you're looking for there to be a man who can also take those burdens off of you when it comes to decision-making.
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Or what are we going to have for dinner?
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I don't want to think about what we're going to fucking have for dinner.
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I made 25 business decisions today.
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I talked to 10 people, one who was, like, kind of deaf and with a cockeyed, you know?
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are you looking at me or?
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the bitch behind me, like I want to get home and I want you to tell me be ready at seven, we're going to the Hillstone, or the kids are taken care of, or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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So it's not because, as women, we can't make those decisions for ourselves.
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It's because when we have a true partnership, we have a lot of burdens on us.
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Just from the workday, just from being like god, I can't even think about what's the next thing I need to do or what's the best move I should do.
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So, um, you know, that's kind of that's.
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You know, again with my son Wiley, who I love him.
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But you know I pay child support and I have no qualms about it because he's going to understand that when he's 18 or 19 or 20, that mom provided and she made it fucking happen, cause your kids are always going to be taken care of.
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Have you ever dated a man who's super masculine, who is able to sort of take you out of that space and put you back in your feminine?
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No, um, masculine, who is able to sort of take you out of that space and put you back in your feminine?
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No, I don't think I.
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You know I've also there's been long periods of time where I've been single because I have to go through a lot of self-reflection, you know, I would say it definitely takes two, and I have ownership for my last breakup.
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You know, what I did which I'm not proud about is I started a fight to get us to the finish line and I did that because you know he told me he had stage four cancer, you know and that, and he didn't.
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I don't know your guys' experience with cancer, but unfortunately I feel like when people have stage four cancer they have like a year or two to live, but you know he's still going to raves and hanging out with 20 year olds and hanging out with people that really don't have a pot to piss in, and I don't want it to become that totally like shitting on people, but to me it's just matter of fact.
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You know, the sky is blue or you have blonde hair, it's just those are the things that that are, that were going on, and so I've never dated a guy.