Feb. 25, 2026

Trust Your Gut Or End Up on a Wild Story 😬

Trust Your Gut Or End Up on a Wild Story 😬
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Season 1

Dating never sends instructions; it just repeats the lesson louder until you finally get it. Em gets it 😅

She is a 31-year-old golfer, single mom of four, and back in the dating pool with sharp instincts, zero tolerance for nonsense, and a sense of humor that keeps things light even when dating gets weird.

We talk golf course meet-cutes, cart girl chaos, and why activity dates expose compatibility faster than dinner ever could. 

Em breaks down how banter reveals interest, why a well-timed phone call beats endless texting, and how situationships are just relationships refusing to be honest. 

We laugh through early red flags like tempers showing up by hole two, texting energy suddenly shifting, and Do Not Disturb triggering spirals. She shares how Stoic thinking shaped her confidence and why trusting your body saves time.

Expect laughs, real filters, and first date rules that actually work. 

Hit play, follow and subscribe, send this to a friend dating the same person in different outfits, and leave a review with the one boundary you are done bending.

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00:01 - Cold Open: Dating Disasters

00:15 - Meet The Hosts And Guest Em

00:25 - Golf Courses As Dating Grounds

01:31 - Cart Girl Stories And Red Flags

02:31 - Divorce, Faith, And Returning To LDS

03:44 - Reentering Apps And Situationship 101

05:18 - Boundaries, Phone Calls, And Vetting Dates

06:44 - Temper Tantrums, Power, And Social Media

08:13 - Listener Question: Mixed Signals And Anxiety

09:45 - Homeschooling, Sports, And Dating With Kids

11:20 - Trends: Groceries, Mocktails, And Sourdough

12:54 - First Date Rules And Rapid Fire

14:18 - Closing And Sponsor Shoutouts

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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.

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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

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So I found out the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.

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Welcome to the Meat Market.

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The single scene is a slaughterhouse, and we are here to devour it.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Lindsay.

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I'm Jess.

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And today, Sizzling Single is Em.

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Welcome.

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Hello, thank you.

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So we hear that the golf course is a fantastic place to meet successful single men as a golfer yourself.

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Is this true?

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It's very true.

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And we just happen to be filming this during the film or during the Waste Management Open.

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So this is like the real central of like everyone that has money and status comes to this party on grass.

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And so you're going after.

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Yeah, I'm actually going right after this.

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And so have you been before?

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Yeah.

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Do you meet a lot of men there?

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Oh my gosh.

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Well, everyone's sloshed by this time in the day.

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Everyone starts drinking like way early in the day.

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So yes, but usually they're not the type of men that I want to, you know.

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Not viable candy with.

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So when you go and play golf, do you meet a lot of single men?

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Because you're gorgeous.

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I can imagine you get hit on the golf course all the time.

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Well, men just love a girl that can swing a club.

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Like that's just a fact.

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So if you guys are looking for men, pick up golf for sure.

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But yeah, I've been married for a long time.

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And so most of the time I was golfing with my husband.

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And so men weren't like coming up to us because I was with him.

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But yeah, if I go by myself, I definitely get hit on every time.

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I can just imagine- I love to say that.

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Just imagine the men, the way they talk, like, oh, look at the way she's handling that club.

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She knows how to handle her balls.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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I had a friend.

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Well, I have a friend, and she worked as a bartender in a country club.

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And while she was doing that, she had, she was like, Oh yeah, I have clients, clients that bring me, she would have men bring her purses and bring her like gifts, like perfume and you know, different things.

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And she was like, I'm not even sleeping with them.

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She's like, they just come like to come sit at the bar, and you know, they bring in their little gifts.

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And so she's like, she would always tell me, she'd be like, Yeah, if you want to meet a guy, she's like, come and sit at my bar at the club, like, because they're there.

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Okay, that's so funny.

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Cause actually, how I got into golf, like, I didn't grow up playing golf, so the way that I got into it, I was like, I need a job.

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I was in college, and I was like, I just gotta like make a little bit of side money, right?

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And I had heard of being a cart girl.

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So those are the girls that are on the carts passing out drinks, and I was like, that's like a good place to meet a sophisticated guy, and you know, I think they make some good tips.

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I asked my brother-in-law who was in the golf industry, and I was like, What do you think?

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And he's like, Don't do it, don't do it.

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And I'm like, pfft, and I went and did it.

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And I actually went and got a job at TPC, which is where the waste management open is.

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And at the time I knew nothing about golf, okay?

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And I'm there and I realized very quickly these guys are just a bunch of degenerates.

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I mean, truly, truly, yes, like like how so, just douchebags?

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Oh my gosh, yeah.

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Well, especially at TPC.

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That's like spring training, like, oh, this is all the professional athletes.

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This is like really just men that are pretty not great men.

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So what they're probably like married and yeah, tons of married men, yeah.

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Sneezy, oh disappointing.

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I know, but you know, there's some good ones out there.

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Yeah, one in every 5,000.

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I feel like you, I feel like you meet a better man on the golf course on just like a regular Tuesday than you do during an event like what's going on right now.

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Oh, yeah.

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A lot of people go to this event not for the golf, but just for the drinking and the socializing.

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I don't even think most of them even realize there's a golf tournament happening.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I read that there's more people in attendance at this sporting event, the golf open, than any other sporting event, including Super Bowl.

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Yeah.

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That's crazy.

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That is crazy.

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It's a big party.

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But I am going to Switzerland on Monday, and that's kind of like my girls' trip.

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I'm talking one of my best friends, and so we're gonna go.

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What are you gonna do in Switzerland?

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Did you ski or?

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I actually am playing in a golf tournament.

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It's a golf tournament.

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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So a tournament on ice.

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I know, it's on a frozen lake.

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There's snow too, so like it shouldn't be super slick.

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But wow.

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So you are like serious about golf.

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So you must be really good.

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I'm okay now.

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I I'll be honest, my score isn't great, but I do have a lot of fun.

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And I did play two years of golf in college.

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So if you don't mind me asking, why did you end up getting divorced from your ex?

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Oh, you know, that's a loaded question.

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There's a lot to it.

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Um, but I do have four kids, so it was a very, very big decision.

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Very like thought about it for a very long time before I ended up pulling the trigger on it.

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And ultimately, like we, I mean, what's on paper is irreconcilable to the differences, but there was a lot that came out after I filed for a divorce that like you know, as a woman, like I feel like you guys will be able to relate to this.

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Like, sometimes you just like know things without knowing it, like your body knows.

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So, like all the facts were like okay, but like my body just like knew sometimes like you just know.

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So the things that came out after I filed for a divorce were like the moment of like peace where I'm like, okay, so I made the right decision, like this is good.

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Validation that you did the right thing, yeah.

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But um I probably won't share like any details about that just because you don't have to.

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He's the he's the father of my four kids.

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Like, that's probably the most important relationship still, even though I'm like not married to him anymore.

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But how long were you together for?

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We were together for eight years.

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How old were you when you met?

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You look so young.

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How old are you?

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I'm 31.

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Okay, you look so young.

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And so how old were you when you met him?

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I was 22.

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Okay.

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And then we we were really quick.

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We dated for three months, engaged for three months, and then married.

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Do you feel like you ignored red flags?

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Yeah.

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Once again, yeah, for sure.

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I mean, I don't want to call them red flags, but moments that like I knew this was like not it for me.

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Are you guys married?

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Yes, I am.

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I'm not yeah, there's like moments leading up to it that like I knew that probably I was like stepping out of alignment on some things that at the time, like I was so young, 22.

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And I was like, it'll be fine.

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I've got grit.

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I'm so tough.

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Like, marriage can't be that hard, you know.

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Are you Mormon?

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Yeah, I was raised Mormon.

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Are you still in the Mormon church?

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I actually just barely decided to come back six months ago.

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So you left and now you've returned.

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Yeah, for a lot of years I wasn't living anything in the gospel, and so now I'm back and I'm honestly really happy.

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Happy to be back.

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That's good.

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Was your husband?

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Did you guys was he Mormon also?

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So he was also raised Mormon, very similar growing up, and then we got married, we did get sealed in the temple, and then we both he kind of left before I did.

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I that was like a huge moment for me.

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I don't know if like you guys have been in relationships where like you guys believe in two different things, like one believes in God and one doesn't, or two different religions.

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But that was like a big moment for me when I was like, oh, we're gonna be that family, where like one of us believes and one of us doesn't.

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And so I ended up kind of leaving just to like keep the peace, and it kind of worked a little bit for a while, and like I didn't I was fine not living it for a while, but like I said, happy to be back, and he's still not in it, so now our kids, you know, will decide if they get to get baptized or whatever.

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Do you have an amical relationship now raising with kids?

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Yeah, we do.

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He's on he's honestly a really, really good dad.

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Oh, so is he remarried?

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He's not.

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No, okay.

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No, but yeah, we've both just been dating, and I don't know anything really about his dating life.

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How's your dating?

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Are you on the apps?

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I just barely got back on this week.

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Really?

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So I haven't been on the apps because I mean, first of all, my divorce wasn't all the way finalized, but we had been separated for so long and we'd been in the divorce process for so long that I was like, you know what?

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Like, he's already been dating, so like I will too.

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So I was on the apps a little bit, and then I have had a situationship and a boyfriend, and now a handful of a handful of first dates.

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It's very interesting.

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Um, are you looking for something serious now?

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Are you looking for to get married again?

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For sure.

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Yeah.

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Marriage is so cool.

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I mean, I still even being married to the wrong person, I'm like, marriage is the coolest thing ever.

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I want to get remarried, so I'm not really in a rush to, but I am looking for like I I feel like I'm just the type that's like made to be talking to one guy.

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I don't know.

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I don't like talking to multiple guys.

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So, how did that go with the situationship?

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How did you feel about that?

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Because that was that kind of your first time experiencing that.

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It was.

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I was like, this is what people have been talking about.

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Because when you're married, you're like kind of out of the loop.

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Yeah.

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And I had heard people say the word situationship, but I didn't really get get it.

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And it wasn't really a thing when you were single.

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Like before you met your husband, it wasn't a thing.

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It's sort of a new thing.

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Yeah, so what is it?

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Because I'm like, you were, I don't know exactly what it is.

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What is it?

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It's when you're it's when you're dating and you do things that are would be considered like what you would do if you were in a relationship.

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Like if you're the female, say, like you're cooking the guy dinner, like he's coming over to your house and you're cooking him dinner, or he's taking you on trips, or you know, staying overnight at each other's house overnight or whatever, having overnight dates.

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So it's like you're doing things that you would normally do if you were in a relationship, but you don't have a title.

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So you haven't had a conversation about whether you're exclusive or not.

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So you're just sort of in this situation ship.

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Is that how you would that is the most perfect description?

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Is that how you would guess?

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So basically one just doesn't like the other enough to commit.

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No, not necessarily.

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No, not necessarily.

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But what other reason wouldn't you would you be just in a situation ship?

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Just because you have not had that conversation?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, just because you haven't had the conversation yet.

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And I feel like a lot of the time you find out that one of them is still kind of like maybe it is that they don't really like him enough, but you're just not quite ready to cut everyone else off.

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But yeah.

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You're still dating.

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Like it's still allowed to still be talking to other people.

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Yeah, whatever.

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Yeah.

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Or you've talked about commitment and decided that neither one of you are ready yet to actually take the plunge into being in a fully committed relationship, but you still enjoy each other's time and company.

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So you want to stay dating each other and you want to stay doing these things, but you both have just sort of agreed that it's not the next level commitment.

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I can't do that.

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Because when I do situation stuff like having overnights or cooking someone dinner, it's because I like them.

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You know?

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So I don't know if I could do that knowing that he's just he's not looking at this the same way I am.

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Does that make sense?

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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But but if it's in if you've agreed to be in a situation ship, you can't look at it that way because you've agreed to that it's just a situationship, that it's not a good idea.

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So people have a conversation just to let you know this is a situationship.

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Nothing.

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No, I don't think so.

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No, I don't think so.

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No, and I think that's kind of the problem, is that typically women, right, feel like it's more like a relationship, and the men are more non-committal.

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And so they call it more of a situationship because I think a lot of times the women tend to catch feelings, and it's that's where it's weird.

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I guess that's where communication comes into play.

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It's important to be on the same page.

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Yeah, I don't mind the situation.

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So, how did your situationship end?

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Like who ended it?

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Was it you?

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Uh, kind of both of us.

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Honestly, my experience with men so far, phenomenal.

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I've seriously found some of the best guys that I'm like they each have left me better than they found me, and I hope that I've done the same there.

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Like, honestly, genuinely good dudes.

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And I don't know if it's because I'm a single mom.

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Like, I feel like maybe they like go easy on me and are extra nice because I have kids or something.

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I don't know.

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That's refreshing to hear because we always hear the opposite.

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Really?

00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.519
So that's nice to know there are some decent blokes still out there.

00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:50.639
Oh my gosh, yeah.

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So my first situationship, honestly, like a grand human being, and he was an interesting first one for me because I was like brand new to the dating scene, had been married and just living in my own four walls, had kids, like no career, no nothing outside the house, basically, aside from like golf with my husband, right?

00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:21.200
Um, and so I didn't know that situationships were like, I didn't know that I was in one when I was in your I call it a situation ship because I'm like, that's for sure what that was.

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You thought you were in a relationship.

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Kind of, like I knew that we didn't have a title, and I and I was still kind of talking to other people, but I didn't realize that, like, okay, so we were at dinner one of the nights, and he told me that he had like slept with someone else, and it literally made me cry.

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I'm sitting at dinner, I'm like, Wait, what?

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He's like, What do you like?

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What's wrong with you?

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Like, this is a like, you know, and he was a lot nicer than that.

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Like, he he was tender, but like in hindsight, he was kind of like, Oh, you know, and honestly, super, super good dude, very successful entrepreneur, and like honestly was the worst first person to be with because he was retired at 33 years old and just like living it out.

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Living his best life.

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Oh, so that's how that's how we ended was he was like, I'm gonna go travel the world for the next six months, and so like like we'll we'll touch base when I get back.

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And I was like, honestly, have fun, good for you.

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And it was, and he was like, Great, really, really a good guy.

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Oh that was my first moment when I was sitting at dinner.

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I was like, Oh, that's how this goes.

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Got it.

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Got it.

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Unless you have like the actual conversation, yeah.

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Unless you've sat down and said, I'm not sleeping with anybody else, are you sleeping with anybody else?

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And you both agree that no, yeah, you are not, you just assume that the other person is.

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Yeah, I feel like, yeah.

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I feel like it's kind of switched because now you assume that you both seeing other people, but back in the like back in the earlier days, I feel like it was more assumed if you're spending that much time together, you kind of assume that it's just the two of you, right?

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Like that's how I saw it.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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I was like, how do you even have time to talk to someone else?

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Yeah, he was great to me.

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I'm like, who are you talking to?

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When?

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Yeah, it's crazy.

00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.000
So you play pickable too, right?

00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:08.720
Yeah, I do.

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Are you pretty good at that as well?

00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:11.440
I'm pretty good.

00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:11.840
Wow.

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Not to brag.

00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:13.360
Wow.

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I hold my own on the court, you know.

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Do you meet a lot of men that way?

00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:18.960
I hear that's a great way to meet people.

00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:19.519
You know what?

00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:20.960
This is funny that you asked me this.

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I feel like this is just dogging on myself.

00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.039
I feel like I'm like the ultimate pick me.

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Like, and once I found out what a pick me was, I was like, wow, honestly, I feel like this is me.

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This is not good.

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But I was like, I just like like to play sports and like and I was always a tomboy growing up.

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And so I'm like, I just find myself in like all the places where like men hang out, and I don't do it on purpose.

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If I'm like in a serious relationship, I'm like, hey, I'm not going unless you're coming with me because it's like competitive and fun and you're high-fiving and you're like, you know, sweating, and it's like I don't know, it's just kind of a Yeah.

00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:58.720
So I bet you do get hit on a lot by the men.

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So I bet it would take a very secure man to be with you if you are gonna do these things without him.

00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:04.399
Right, right.

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Yeah, there was there was one debacle in my one serious relationship that I went and played pickleball without him, and he was like, You did what?

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I was like, sorry, I just wanted to play pickleball.

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So it was a problem.

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So I hear that people judge people by their rackets, pickleball rackets.

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Like if it's like one from Amazon, they're like, oh, she's gonna suck, she's gonna suck it from Amazon.

00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.679
Yeah, you gotta be strategic about it, like where you're gonna, like, who you're gonna be up against.

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You wanna play someone that's like around your same level.

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Yeah, my parents have been in town and there's pickleball courts, right?

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By where I live.

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That they've converted some of the tennis courts to pickleball courts or whatever.

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And so I was telling my mom when I was like, here's my paddles.

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I was like, I just I only have my one nice one, and then I have these other couple that are just sort of, you know, like practice one.

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She's like, oh, don't worry.

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She's like, I'll give one of those ones to your dad.

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I love it.

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So they do.

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Like, and my mom plays pickleball, like at home in Iowa.

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Like, she plays regularly.

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So when I was like, no, just take the bikes and ride, I told them where the courts were.

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Um, and they went, and it was so cute.

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They went on like a Tuesday afternoon or something, but it was funny because I then I asked my mom, I said, was there anybody else there?

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Because the these courts are fair, they can get really busy in like peak times.

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Um they went in the middle of the day, in the middle of the week.

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So I wasn't expecting it to be super busy.

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And she was like, No, there was just a guy there playing tennis.

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And she's like, actually, now that I think about it, he was really cute and he was practicing by myself.

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I should have asked him if he was single, and I was like, Yeah, thanks, Mom.

00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:41.360
Thank you.

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Like you're a terrible ring woman.

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And like, what?

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That's hilarious.

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So do you play then?

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You have your red.

00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:48.960
Okay, fine.

00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:50.000
Yeah, that's cool.

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I have, I don't have a ton of time, but I have I know how to play.

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That's okay.

00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:56.000
Yeah, it's fun.

00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:57.360
So, how old are your kids?

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Eight, six, five, and three.

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Oh, those are fun ages.

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It's very funny.

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Boys, girls?

00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:04.319
Yeah, mine goes boy, girl, boy, boy.

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Oh, boy, girl, boy.

00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:06.960
Wow, three boys, one girl.

00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:08.000
Yeah, it's wild.

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And I homeschool them, and so we just like what?

00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:11.279
I know.

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You are a freaking saint.

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You all of them.

00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.960
Well, I mean, one of them isn't in school yet.

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He's just my like psychotherapy.

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Stressful, no?

00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:21.200
No, I it's all I know.

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Lindsay's anxiety could never make it.

00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:39.759
And I so my stepson was, I think, I think in third grade when COVID hit, and I saw my husband like homeschool him, and it just looked exhausting and miserable and stressful.

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I can't imagine doing homeschooling multiple kids and having to coordinate the curriculums and and also when I help the girls with their homework, they get so stressed at me and they yell at me and we fight.

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Oh my gosh, how old are yours?

00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:53.920
Uh, seven and eight.

00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:54.799
No, eight and nine.

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Oh, so but they just get frustrated with me.

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I think because I'm their mom and they think I don't know what I'm talking about or what I'm doing, you know, so I can't imagine tea trying to teach them.

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I just feel like it would be stressful.

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Yeah.

00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:08.799
I mean, it's all we know, and because I never even sent them off to preschool.

00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:09.519
Oh, you didn't okay?

00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:11.759
So they've only ever learned from me.

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And so, I mean, from the letter A, we go from there.

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It's like it's fun.

00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:28.000
And honestly, my my kindergartner, which he's he's not even old enough to be in kindergarten, I'd call him my kindergartner because he was like begging to be homeschooled because he would see me just sitting with the older two.

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He's like, wait a minute, I want in on that.

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You know, it's like kind of just like a fun mom and kid time.

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Are they old enough or aware enough to like have any sort of say or opinion on your dating life?

00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:44.319
Have they made any comments?

00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:45.119
Yeah, you know what?

00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:50.160
That's so funny that you asked that because my son walked up when I was FaceTiming a guy one time.

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I'm kind of like trying to like angle the phone a little bit.

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I'm like, he's just a friend.

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It's like I'm allowed to have a social life, right?

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He's not like a boyfriend.

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I'm not like introducing him to people, right?

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But he kind of like got a look at it and he goes, Mom, he's like, no.

00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:07.680
He's like he's eight, and he can just like tell.

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He's like, that is not a guy you want to date.

00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:10.400
He's so funny.

00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:17.519
That's that's he's very mature for his age, like very opinionated, and just like he just gave me like a hard no.

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I'm like, you know what?

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I'm gonna trust you.

00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:20.079
Right?

00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:20.960
Kids and dogs.

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Yeah, kids and dogs.

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You gotta listen.

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If they the kids, if a kid doesn't like somebody, it's like strategy.

00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:27.839
Yeah, they know.

00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:29.839
So are you an influencer?

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Uh kind of.

00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:31.680
It's like a hobby.

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I don't do it.

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I don't do it for work.

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I just do it for work?

00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:34.720
No.

00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:42.480
I mean, there's some things that like I had some events for the waste management that I popped in on as an influencer, but I'm not like pursuing it.

00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:44.240
Because I feel like you have a lot of followers, no?

00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:45.680
Yeah, on Instagram I do.

00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:46.000
Yeah.

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Do you do you monetize any of that?

00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:48.799
Not really yet.

00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:53.039
Like, I mostly just get like this trip to Switzerland is through Instagram.

00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:59.599
So like there's fun things that I get to do, but I'm not, you know, taking brand deals or anything.

00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:02.240
Not yet.

00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:07.680
I think I'm getting there because like I feel like now I have, you know, a message that I actually want to share.

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Like before it's just like kind of sharing little snippets, the highlight reel of like my life as a mom and golf and like the fun things I'm up to.

00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.599
And now I'm like, oh, I actually have something that I want to say.

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Like what is your passion?

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What do you want to say?

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What do you primarily talk about?

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Yeah, I mean, I love philosophy, and so kind of like in the in the pits of my marriage when I was like, where do I even go from here?

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Like I I had no idea what was happening.

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I'd call my mom every day and be like, uh, can I just like tell you a story and just like get your feedback?

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I'm just like really confused.

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I don't get it.

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Like, I don't get what's happening here.

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And like I just always felt like that.

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And so, and at the time I had left my religion and wasn't really like praying to God or anything, and so I turned to books and philosophy and started studying Stoicism, and that like brought a lot of clarity for me.

00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:03.279
I read the book Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, like a half a dozen times in a row, just like over and over.

00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:05.599
Which that's do you guys know anything about stoicism?

00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:17.039
Yeah, so Marcus Aurelius was um like uh an ancient stoic, and he wrote this journal, and it was never meant to be published, but eventually it did get published.

00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:28.160
So it's written by this powerful man, and I mean he's an emperor of Rome, and in his journal, just over and over, he's going back to like he I lost my temper again.

00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:34.079
And it's like not organized at all, it's just a journal, and it's like back to these things that he struggles with over and over again.

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And that was like a moment for me where I was like, oh, like powerful people struggle, and I'm struggling, and like it was just like this flow from then on after reading that that I was like, okay, I'm just gonna keep reading these books.

00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:54.079
And so I seriously probably read 300 self help mindset growth books and and stoic philosophy.

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And now I'm like, you know what?

00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:59.839
Like, I I'm super messed up, like, I don't have anything figured out.

00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.440
Like I'm a mess.

00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:03.279
Like it really I am.

00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:13.599
And like I've learned so much and I'm so like happy in my day-to-day life, even with like on paper, it's like not it's not looking good.

00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:17.519
Like I'm a single mom of four, no clue what's next.

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And I'm like really genuinely happy.

00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:21.599
And I'm like, you know what?

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Like I wanna like I actually do want to talk about it.

00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:25.680
So that's awesome.

00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:27.279
That's kind of where I would go.

00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:31.680
I as you're talking about this, I um have just one thought in my head.

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Have you ever meditated, like truly meditated, Lindsay?

00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.079
I think I tried it right now.

00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:47.279
I think I tried one of those apps, and I think I laughed and like later and she's like, no.

00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:53.359
I think after my mom, she's like, it's hard for me just to sit and relax, you know.

00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:59.039
You're talking about like stoicism and meditating, and it's like I totally practice, like I meditate every day.

00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:00.079
Yeah, that's amazing.

00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.279
Like last night, like Friday nights, usually my bit like long.

00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:05.440
I do a like a nidra meditation.

00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.400
It's like 40 minutes of guided, and it's it's really long.

00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:14.079
And I'm thinking of Lindsay right now, like could never like everybody.

00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:17.279
40 minutes 40 minutes is intense.

00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:18.319
That's good.

00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:19.599
Yeah, it's impressive.

00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:20.480
Yeah.

00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.079
Have you ever walked out mid-date?

00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:26.240
Oh no, I don't think I have.

00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:32.799
Like I said, okay, so here I've got some philosophies around dating that I like I vet out people so quick.

00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:34.799
I mean, like, I Like before you meet them in person.

00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:35.839
I don't text.

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And so like I'll get a like a message.

00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:44.000
Usually I meet guys through like Instagram, and then I'm back on Hinge and the league.

00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:47.599
And I hit them with, it's so funny, because they'll send a message.

00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:50.559
I'll send maybe one or two back, and then I hit them with, hey, just call me.

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Here's my number.

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And if they call right away, then I'm like, okay, you pass phase one.

00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:58.319
And if it's a good conversation, then okay, like you pass phase two.

00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:08.079
And so like I'll have like bare minimum hour-long conversation with you before I even consider going out with you.

00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.519
I've I've said yes to maybe four or five dates total.

00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:17.519
So, what happens if you send, hey, just call me and then send your phone number and they continue to message you?

00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:18.880
Do you just then not respond?

00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:27.279
You're not like you're not like, hey, that was actually like I was asking you to call me, and since you didn't, we can stop.

00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.759
Like, you don't have a this is done conversation.

00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:31.200
You just stop responding altogether.

00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.960
Do you send your number to that you never hear from again that don't call you?

00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:35.759
Does that happen often?

00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:37.039
No, not that often.

00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.839
I would say I don't send my number to a ton of people.

00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:43.839
Like you already have to like reach some requirements because I do get a lot of DMs.

00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:47.440
Like, that's pretty common just because like I'm bigger on Instagram.

00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:52.720
But um, once you hit a few requirements, then I'll hit you with my number.

00:24:52.960 --> 00:25:00.640
And I'm I'm sure there's been a few, I don't really notice because I don't really keep track, but I'm sure there's some that are like not everyone's gonna be into me.

00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:06.319
Like, there's plenty of people that are gonna find out I have four kids and be like done, you know, like I'm out.

00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:10.880
And I don't really hide it, but I'm also don't I also don't like advertise it all the time.

00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:22.400
So or they think it's fun just to message back and forth because they're bored and it's entertainment, and then it's like when you're like, okay, call me, and they're like, oh no, no, that I didn't I didn't mean it like that.

00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:24.000
Like I just wanted something to do.

00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:24.400
Right.

00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:29.119
So I've never had someone like be straight up like weird about it or say anything rude about it.

00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:39.839
But anyone, I'll I just know that if they do call, I'm like, you're cool, you have a personality, and you're not afraid to just like call someone random and like see if the banter is there.

00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:45.680
And if the banter is there, then like, okay, let's like talk on the phone one or two times, and then you know.

00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:47.200
You said the league?

00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:48.960
Have you had of that app?

00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:49.599
What is it?

00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.559
You have to like apply to be in a so is it kind of like Raya?

00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:53.200
Yeah.

00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:54.559
Kind of, yeah.

00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:59.519
It's uh it's supposed to be for like higher end goal, I guess.

00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:01.599
Yeah, but yeah, are you in the league?

00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:03.759
No, I'm I'm not on a snow.

00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:04.319
What do you do?

00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:06.079
I nothing, I just meet people.

00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.960
Out just out in the wild sometimes, yeah.

00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:10.559
Yeah, that's amazing.

00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:13.119
Yeah, or introduce I don't date a lot though.

00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:18.960
I'm not I'm not I'm not really actively uh pursuing dating at the moment.

00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:20.160
So fair enough.

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:20.720
I date.

00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:24.400
I date like if an opportunity comes, I will go on a date.

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.880
Yeah, but I'm not it's not something that I'm like.

00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.000
Have you had any disaster dates, crazy dates?

00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:30.960
Terrible dates.

00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:32.640
Let me think about it for a second.

00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.359
Like I said, I'm like so particularly who I say yes to.

00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.400
Because I already don't have a whole lot of time.

00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.599
But I don't think I've gone on any.

00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.480
Oh, actually, actually, I did.

00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.359
I went out with someone who cussed me out on the second date.

00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:50.079
I forgot about this.

00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.200
This actually kind of just happened.

00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:55.200
I just barely said I vet him out really good.

00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:59.119
But this guy had like a couple million followers, seemed like super legit.

00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.200
And I was I was like, you know what?

00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:02.960
He seems cool enough.

00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.599
And we and we did have good banter, good conversation.

00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:10.799
He had the depth was there, everything was there, but he had a flaming temper.

00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.759
Flaming, that was a weird word to use, but I mean like a fiery temper.

00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.079
And I was like, oh, okay.

00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:19.680
So I actually did walk out.

00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:20.160
Yeah.

00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.319
So wait, what how did you see his temper?

00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:23.839
What was he so up in arms about?

00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:32.640
Okay, this is a longer story, but basically I said yes to two people in the span of like four months, and they happened to be at like right the same time.

00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:40.480
And so I told I didn't I didn't really like tell them about each other because uh like neither of them were exclusive.

00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.440
Like, yeah, neither of them didn't need anything really about each other.

00:27:43.599 --> 00:28:01.039
Like honestly, like I hadn't even gone out with one of them at the time that he got really mad, but when he found out that I was even like on the phone with someone else, he was like, absolutely not, and drew a like a pretty firm rude boundary that I was like, oh, okay.

00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:02.880
On date number two, yeah.

00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:03.759
Wow.

00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:14.640
And someone with a large social media following, especially if he's good looking, you don't think that he's so fine, like, and you don't think that he's not entertaining other people, right?

00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:15.680
Like other women.

00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:16.319
Honestly.

00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:27.039
So for him to get so angry with you on a second date when it's it was probably deflection because it probably, you know, he knows what he knows what he's doing.

00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:28.480
And that's not a good indicator.

00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:34.720
If he's getting that angry that early on, think of if you're in a relationship, how's he gonna react to other conflicts that arise?

00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:45.359
Yeah, I will say there's there are some like downfalls to my methods because when you hop on a phone call really quick and you're super open and like authentic, things move pretty quick.

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:50.799
It's like it almost comes off as like love bombing because it's like you just like let him in right away.

00:28:50.880 --> 00:29:00.000
Just because I don't really have time for like the BS of it, or I'm like, I don't really feel like texting back and forth, waiting a couple hours and like telling you how my day was.

00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.079
Like, we're not gonna get anywhere like that.

00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:06.559
And so there are some downfalls and I don't have it mastered, okay?

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:12.160
But like I do feel like I'm onto something where like I don't have terrible experiences often.

00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.240
That one, and it wasn't even that terrible.

00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:19.279
He was like pretty rude, and he dropped some F-bombs at me, but I was like, you know what?

00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:20.160
It's okay.

00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.920
Like, I got space for you to just like he was going through a lot, and I'm like, you know what?

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:24.880
That's okay.

00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:26.799
You just like to you.

00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:31.279
I still like think all the good things that I think about him, but like you know, just not for me.

00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:32.559
Yeah, it's not for me.

00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.839
Like, I'm not wasting any energy on that there, you know.

00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:37.359
It's just like you do you.

00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:39.759
Probably you're probably not for me.

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:40.319
That's all.

00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.839
Are you looking for someone that also is on social media?

00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.200
Like, do you want someone that has a big following?

00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.559
This might be a hot take.

00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.079
I don't think men can handle power.

00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.240
I just don't think they I don't think they can.

00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:53.519
I don't think they can.

00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:59.519
Anyone that honestly, if you're like over 1800 followers at this point, I'm like, I don't think you're for me.

00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:03.119
I think you gotta have a small, small following.

00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:04.880
Women can handle power, okay?

00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:07.680
We know how to like control ourselves.

00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:08.799
I don't think men can.

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:09.759
What do you guys think?

00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:10.960
I kind of agree.

00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:12.000
Yeah.

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:13.759
With it, especially on social media.

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:21.519
You mean control yourselves as control themselves with women, like being with women in the DMs, like in the social networking, and all of them.

00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:29.039
Especially if you're a man and you have women throwing themselves at you, it's hard for a man to not reciprocate, you know?

00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:30.160
I think.

00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.240
So no, I don't think so.

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:32.640
Yeah.

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:38.240
But I like but I like an ambitious guy, and so sometimes that like comes with some sort of a balling.

00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.240
Well, because that's where marketing is, right?

00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.440
Like, and so it's like you have to be on social media if you are trying to market.

00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:47.039
I'm torn on that one.

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:47.759
Yeah.

00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:50.880
Isn't that why maybe a lot of celebrities cheat?

00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:53.920
Because when they're out and about, they get women throwing themselves at them.

00:30:54.160 --> 00:31:00.000
And what man is able to say no to a beautiful, gorgeous woman that's like throwing themselves at them, you know?

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:00.640
Right.

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:05.599
You're I just imagine them being like in some sort of a little tiff with their wife or girlfriend.

00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:16.559
It's like at that moment you're weak, it's like these beautiful women are throwing themselves at you or sliding into your DMs every single day, and you're starting to feel like, hey, do you know how many people I'm rejecting for you?

00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:16.960
Right.

00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:18.079
And you're gonna act like that.

00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.119
You know, it's like two, like you just get pompous, you know.

00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.400
It's like good point.

00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:23.440
Are you ready for it?

00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:24.240
I'm ready for it.

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00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:33.920
All right, so we have a listener question.

00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.240
I think this one's another kind of long one.

00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:36.720
Okay.

00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:43.440
I'm traveling this weekend to meet a guy I've been talking to for the last three weeks.

00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.039
We both live in different states and are planning to meet in the middle.

00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.640
I suggested we try to meet last weekend, but he couldn't because he was going out of town.

00:31:53.119 --> 00:32:03.440
I saw that his dating profile changed locations, and then yesterday he stopped talking to me from 3 to 8 p.m., which is unusual as we text in FaceTime all day.

00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:09.200
Tonight he told me he was going to hang out with his friends, but he turned his phone on do not disturb.

00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.519
I know we're not exclusive, but I have an anxious attachment style.

00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.240
So I'm not sure if I'm just overthinking.

00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:24.240
We have often talked about the future and the things we're gonna do together, and I feel like he contributes just as much as I do to those conversations.

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:30.720
Now, as he's suddenly gone a little cold, I'm rethinking if it's worth even traveling to meet him.

00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:32.960
What do you think?

00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.440
I think she should still go meet him.

00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:39.359
I think communication, I mean, they haven't had a conversation about being exclusive.

00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:44.640
So, yes, he does have the right to see other people, but he's lying about it, which I don't like.

00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.119
You know, at least be upfront and honest about it.

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:48.480
So they're on the same page.

00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:49.599
But is he lying about it?

00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.880
Or turning his phone off, like saying he's meeting friends.

00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:53.920
I mean, maybe he is meeting friends.

00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:54.960
Maybe he did meet friends.

00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.400
I turn my phone on, do not disturb when I'm seeing an old friend and catching up.

00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.079
Like I do it all the time.

00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.079
Again, communication, she should just have a conversation.

00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:02.960
Just ask him.

00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:03.680
That's what I was gonna say.

00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:05.279
It's like you need to you gotta just ask the question.

00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:16.640
Well, and that's the thing is like when patterns start to change, like if it's like you're FaceTiming and texting all day, and then all of a sudden the person is unavailable with no, like, hey, I'm gonna be doing this or hey, I'm gonna be doing that.

00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.920
You do have to pay attention to when patterns change.

00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:20.640
Agreed.

00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:24.559
But also, you've only been talking to him for three weeks and you haven't met yet.

00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:25.920
So, like, chill.

00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:26.640
It's true.

00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:27.039
I agree.

00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:37.440
I think I think it's too early, I feel, to but patterns changing, routines changing does scream typically something's off.

00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:38.000
Something's off.

00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:43.200
And women's intuition, like you were saying, like when something you feel something in your gut, like we we should always trust our gut.

00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:44.720
When something's off, it typically is off.

00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.400
That's a big one, honestly.

00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.000
That is like one of the biggest things that I've learned dating, because I've learned a lot dating.

00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:50.880
You learn so much.

00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.759
I'm like, wow, I was like sheltered inside my four walls for the past eight years.

00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.640
I learned a lot about like long-term relationships, right?

00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:05.359
But nothing about like internally me, what's happening in my like in the moment decision making.

00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:14.800
And every single time that I do, like when I went out with that guy that you know ended up not being very nice, I knew beforehand.

00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.960
Like I can say fullheartedly, like I was just like doing it for the plot.

00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:20.000
I'm like, you know what?

00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.800
We'll just go see, you know, but I knew beforehand, like it was never gonna work out long time.

00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:25.840
That's a no, yeah.

00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:28.400
And my body knows before anything else knows.

00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:28.559
Yeah.

00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:38.239
And so I think if women, like, if we just like listen a little bit closer and actually trust it and not just like toy with it in our brain and be like, oh no, like still just do it for the plot.

00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.880
We might all be a little more peaceful.

00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.360
What are you looking for in a partner?

00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:44.400
Oof, okay.

00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.559
I have to say my number one now is like a godly man, like a god-fearing man.

00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:50.960
And that is like hard to come by these days.

00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.440
I'm like, where do I find this guy?

00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:53.920
You know?

00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:59.280
Um at church, there's no guys at I'm at the Mormon church where I I go to the family ward.

00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.920
There's not even a single, there's not one single dude in that whole ward.

00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.360
Isn't there a I'm surprised there's not a Mormon dating app, right?

00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:07.840
You know what?

00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:08.480
I think there is.

00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:09.440
I haven't gotten on it.

00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:10.559
There might be.

00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:13.039
I know there's a Jewish one and there's a Christian one.

00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:14.079
Christian Mingle.

00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:15.119
I should look into that.

00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:20.559
But the problem is I feel a little bit displaced in the Mormon community because I'm now a single mom of four.

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:28.800
And so it's kind of like everyone in the Mormon community, and I I think they've like requested that we start calling it LDS, but either way, you guys know what I'm talking about.

00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:30.639
Yeah, everyone gets married so young.

00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.360
That's what I did.

00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:41.199
Like me and my ex-husband just followed like right on the track of like very typical timeline for like what Mormon youth and then young adults do.

00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:45.280
And they all that's like kind of just everyone's like path.

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:57.199
You get married young, you start having babies, you pop them out, and then you know, now here I am, a single mom of four kids, and I'm like, I love this, and like I don't actually have much of a place here.

00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:04.239
And and that's okay because like a lot of it is it's like still worth it, but I just don't know where to go from here.

00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:06.320
It's kind of an interesting spot to be.

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:06.559
Yeah.

00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:08.000
What's your physical type?

00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:09.440
Ooh, good question.

00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:10.719
I like really tall.

00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:14.000
Like 6'2, 6'3 is like super solid.

00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:19.920
You gotta be able to beat me in pickleball, you gotta be able to beat me in golf, you gotta be able to beat me in like a game of horse.

00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.599
Like, I do I don't wanna like run any of our sports.

00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.519
You gotta you gotta be athletic.

00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.400
Um, but that doesn't like as long as you're athletic, it doesn't need to be like big buff, bulky.

00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.159
Like, I'm okay with like skinny.

00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:33.360
Okay, you know.

00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:35.760
God, that's gotta be tough to find, I feel, right?

00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.360
Yeah, someone that's tall and a golf pro and good at pickable.

00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.880
Yeah, maybe I should like I should like let a few of those go.

00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:54.960
Maybe I'm being too picky, but I think that, and then like ambition-wise, I'm like, I don't really care where you're at right now, but you gotta have like big ambit, like lofty goals.

00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.679
Like, I'm a total dreamer, and so like I gotta be with someone that like matches that energy.

00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:01.519
I have an I have a neighbor.

00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:04.000
I have a neighbor that I think you would like.

00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.320
Uh oh, you're just gonna be a matchmaker right now?

00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.800
I've met it uh-huh with the hat.

00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:09.199
Yeah.

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.480
Is it a backward snapback?

00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:17.519
No, he's a little, I think he's a little bit of a hat fish.

00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:18.320
God, I shouldn't say that.

00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:20.239
I don't think he much is a hat fish.

00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:20.719
What is it?

00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.519
He's so much cuter with his hat on than without it.

00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:24.880
We call that a hat fish?

00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:25.360
I do.

00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:27.440
Oh my gosh, I love this term.

00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.159
This a hat fish, if it's true.

00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:31.679
He is cute without his hat.

00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:32.800
He is cute without his hat.

00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:34.320
I will give him magnesium.

00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:35.440
Um a little.

00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:36.320
A little.

00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:40.079
Um a little, but he is much cuter with his hat on.

00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:44.719
So he's a little bit he's a bit of a hat fish, but not too much because he is good, still good looking without the hat.

00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:46.480
That's so funny.

00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:47.039
Yeah.

00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:47.519
Okay.

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Solid.

00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:49.599
We're gonna discuss this article.

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It's not really dating related, but I heard it on the radio and I was I thought it was interesting, so I did some research.

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So trending items on grocery delivery platforms like Instacart and DoorDash, things that have just recently skyrocketed.

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So, can you guess certain items?

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Are they food items or are they Um Yeah, most of them are food items, yeah?

00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.119
Grocery delivery platforms, yeah.

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So protein-packed items, Greek and Icelandic yogurt, cottage cheese, protein drinks, and shakes are being ordered significantly more now as people lean into protein and snacks and meals.

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Protein shakes have doubled in orders.

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Matcha, tinned fish, canned mackerel and sardines.

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I didn't want to keep it.

00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:30.320
I thought you were going to need to do it.

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I thought people were ordering like sex.

00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:54.800
Oh my god, I should have looked that up.

00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:56.400
I bet those have increased too, though.

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Um Electrolyte and Hydration powders, functional mushrooms.

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Do you guys take functional mushrooms?

00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:02.639
I have to do that.

00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:15.039
Like lion's mane and raishi, rising interest for immune and cognitive benefits, Asian snacks and tastes, milk tea, kimchi, frozen buns, orders for Asian products are soaring.

00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:15.920
Isn't that random?

00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:16.719
Interesting.

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.320
Uh, non-alcoholic drinks, I guess, is skyrocketing, non-alcoholic beer, wine, spirits.

00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:24.159
Because there are a lot, a lot of people in that.

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Do you drink?

00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:25.519
I don't.

00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:26.239
Not anymore.

00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.880
I know that's trending, like the mocktails now are trending.

00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.360
Um, so what would you say just guess?

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Are the typical the items that are most ordered when it comes to grocery store items?

00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:38.400
They're kind of boring.

00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.800
I order all of my groceries on grocery delivery like Whole Foods.

00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.440
I am Whole Foods Delivery like a clockwork.

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Yeah.

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I guess the most ordered ones everything.

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Um delivery of bananas, berries, cucumbers, and cilantro.

00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.480
I order those things almost every week on my grocery delivery order.

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And then healthy bowl salads, acai bowls, grain balls are all skywalkening too.

00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.079
So that's kind of interesting, random.

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You can order acaibles from the store.

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Apart from the bottom.

00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:07.199
Well, probably like door to ash, and they'll stop at Nectar and pick you up an acai bowl.

00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:07.360
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So now we're gonna mar the celebrity cup will be marinate in the juices of the celebrities.

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Did you are you a fan of Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey?

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I've I followed a little bit, but not much.

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So did you see how she's like on this sourdough kick?

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Like she makes sourdough bread and she's like become obsessed with it.

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She's like, I think about it all the time, every second of the day, and I make all my friends it.

00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:31.840
So Travis Kelsey recently came out and said that he's gained so much weight from sourdough bread.

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Did you hear this?

00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:34.800
But I wasn't.

00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:36.480
That was funny on camera.

00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.119
That was really funny on the podcast he did that.

00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:46.239
No, but I believe it because I used to make sourdough when COVID hit and it was like trendy or whatever, that everyone started making sourdough.

00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:47.599
I started making sourdough.

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Um, and I had to stop because it was too much bread.

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Like my freezer was full.

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I had like frozen pizza crusts, I had frozen loaves of bread, I had like I couldn't eat it.

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So like I feel traveling.

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Is it hard to make?

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But no, it's not hard to make at all.

00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:04.559
So why is it trendy?

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Like, what's the obsession with the bigger?

00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.880
I think because it is easy and it's delicious.

00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:10.079
Wait, how's it easy?

00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:11.519
Doesn't it take like all day?

00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:12.559
I haven't made it before.

00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.559
It depends on what recipe you use.

00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:24.159
Sometimes you have to like mix and then you have to like stretch and fold, stretch and fold, stretch and fold, and then leave it sit to rise and then do more stretch and folds.

00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.880
Okay, and then do your baking with it.

00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:33.360
And you have to like you have to feed the sourdough starter every every week.

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And it's it's a bit of a time commitment.

00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:44.079
It is a time commitment in it, but it just it makes too much bread product for me, like for me as one individual person.

00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:44.880
Bread person, yeah.

00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.280
Doesn't eat a lot of carbs, anyways.

00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.079
Like it's just like it made too it made too much product.

00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.199
So I was reading the Taylor Swift apparently makes all different varieties.

00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.840
She makes like blueberry lemon, all my brother.

00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:56.159
Oh yeah.

00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:57.440
That actually sounds so good.

00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.880
Yeah, no, you can make so much things, you can put edible flowers on it.

00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.920
So you make really pretty loaves that are like floral.

00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.599
You can make my mom makes jalapeno cheddar still, like really, yeah.

00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:09.760
And isn't sourdough supposed to be better for the gut?

00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:11.199
Like a healthier bread.

00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:12.639
Yeah.

00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.840
So where is your preferred place for a first date?

00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.719
Do you have like a favorite restaurant or do you like an activity?

00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:20.320
Do you like to take someone to play pickleball?

00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:21.280
Yeah, activity.

00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:21.760
Really?

00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:23.360
I can't do a dinner date.

00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:24.480
It's so hard for me.

00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:28.239
Because I was married for eight years to someone that we didn't do any dinner dates, really.

00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:29.760
I can think of like a handful of them.

00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.000
We just played golf and pickleball together.

00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:37.519
Because what we were like parenting most of the time, and so then we'd be like, well, let's get out and like do something fun.

00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.119
We don't want to like sit down.

00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.760
And so I'm not really like a dinner date gal.

00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:44.400
Pickleball probably would be the first.

00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.599
Because four hours in a golf cart, because around takes four hours.

00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:49.119
So, like that for a first date.

00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:50.000
It's a big commitment.

00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:51.599
What if you don't like him?

00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:53.360
And in the first 20 minutes you've got the major ick.

00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.199
And I'm like sitting by him for you know the next four and a half hours.

00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:58.719
Yeah, can we go jump on the car?

00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:00.400
Yeah.

00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:02.559
See, I'm out of here.

00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.800
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00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:08.079
Rapid fire questions.

00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:09.840
What's your favorite body part on a man?

00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:10.880
Oh, biceps.

00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.440
Where should someone not take you on a first date?

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:15.199
Uh super fancy restaurant.

00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.360
What should someone not do on a first date?

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.039
Um talk about their ex.

00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.960
Is watching porn considered cheating?

00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:21.360
Yes.

00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.960
Before you're intimate, is it appropriate to ask your date how many people they've been with?

00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:25.599
No.

00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:25.840
Okay.

00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.000
Is it acceptable to have sex on a first date?

00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:28.960
No.

00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.079
Should you disclose mental health issues early on in a relationship?

00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:32.719
Yes.

00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:37.440
And you have a special hidden talent that not many people know about, or something that you don't tell too many people?

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.079
A secret that not many people know?

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:42.000
Oh, I don't think so.

00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:42.880
You seem pretty open.

00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.239
And I'm pretty open, but people know way too much about me.

00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:48.719
No.

00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.920
Thank you so much for joining us this week at the Meat Market, and thank you so much, Em.

00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:56.320
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00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.800
Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.

00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.039
He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:18.000
So I found out the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.