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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.
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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.
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So I found out the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.
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His wife just reached out to me.
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Welcome to the meat market.
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The single scene is a slaughterhouse, and we are here to devour it.
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We are your hosts.
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I'm Lindsay.
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I'm Jess.
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And today's sizzling single is Dan.
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Dan the man.
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Welcome.
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Oh my gosh.
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Well, thank you.
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It's great to be on your show.
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I'm very surprised and uh it's a pleasure to be here.
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So you do very well for yourself.
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Have you ever been approached by a sugar baby?
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Have you ever been a sugar daddy?
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I have I been a su okay.
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So you asked me two questions.
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Have I been so a sugar baby has a sugar daddy.
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Have you ever been asked to be a sugar daddy?
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I have.
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Yes.
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Did you accept the proposition?
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Uh no.
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No.
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So how do women ask you?
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Because it's typically someone who's younger, and I am uh attracted to my age or even older.
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Wow, such a unicorn, such an anomaly.
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Most men we have on here, they want to go younger, way younger.
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So that's good to hear.
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I I liked, you know, I mean that you gotta be connected with the you know generation that you were you grew up in and you have commonalities.
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It's physical is great, but I think in the in the end, it's gonna be how you connect and uh your maturity levels and interests and intelligence.
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Not that younger is not intelligent, but I don't know.
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It's just um It's kind of true.
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What do you talk about?
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With if you're dating someone who's 20.
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Like, yeah, I have a friend who is a doctor, and I saw him at Dominic's steakhouse the night before I saw him at um another steakhouse.
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Different woman each time.
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Yeah.
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Um Ocean Ocean Club.
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And uh both nights he had blondes who were 20 years younger.
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And he called me up and said, Hey, could you come on over and say, Hey, I'm at the end of the evening, the dinner, and and meaning it wasn't quite he wasn't quite connecting.
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He needed an out.
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He needed an out, and it's kind of a pattern he's had, and and then uh you know, he'd walk her back to the valet and send her home or whatever to Uber, and and I'd like, how did it go?
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He's like, how like and he would tell me, and then he'd just uh I'm like, You're I think you're fishing in the wrong pond, my friend.
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You know, he's 64, he's dating like 40-ish and uh successful doc, but I don't I think he's in his mind has what is uh is is right for him, but it's not, right?
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Well if it hasn't been working in the past, if it has a pattern of not working, maybe he should try something different, try going a few years older.
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Well, but that's a tough question to ask in the opening question of our show here.
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I mean we want to start in the thick of it.
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Dirty.
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Exactly.
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Well, I mean, you know, so I mean, there is um another podcast.
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Have you heard uh the Tales of a Sugar Daddy from my studio?
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Yeah, and he's he's a sugar daddy guy, and he's uh talks about a lot of you know inter interesting stories on the show.
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It's uh but I I know I just find that it's kind of shallow if you're focused on that and they see you as just uh an out, you gotta make sure you you resonate with the right person at the right time.
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And so you want to be able to share experiences right with the person that you're with and rather than just be the cash cow, right?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So you have a successful podcast.
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What is your podcast called?
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My podcast is called Capital Fit.
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It's uh it deals with uh your wealth and your health and and innovation and collaboration.
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I've been in the startup world for the last seven years in private equity, mostly medical devices.
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So I've had a lot of experience now helping companies raise capital, raise money, uh find the right uh you know, C-suite folks, and and be an advisor and a consultant to that company.
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And uh in the in the um process of doing that, I've gotten really healthy.
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I've learned so much about myself, health, wealth.
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We're talking about sound baths and meditation, breath work, you know, learning Joe Dispenza and and uh so many of the great uh podcast hosts, and even sort of Instagram reels.
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I think once you're in like the mode of um of healing and and wellness and health, I think Instagram and Facebook send you reels that sort of resonate with you.
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Oh my gosh, they must know what we're talking about or even what we're saying.
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And so there's been this elevation of knowledge and just talking to practitioners, naturopath doctors, you know, cardiologists who used to be in big um like Mayo, and now they have their own practice as a concierge doc.
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And why did you do that?
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So there's a lot, there's a big move and a transformation, I think, and an awakening of knowledge of what's right our food, and of course, what's going on with metabolic health and glucose and their food system and all that.
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I think there's an awakening of all that.
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So I've been to this intersection of helping companies, but at the same time learning about what's right for Dan.
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I feel like I've never felt better and you know, been more grounded and articulate.
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Podcasts helped great too, by the way, to gotta stay sit there and stay focused for an hour.
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And it's really kind of a talent and that you have to, you know, work on.
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And um, so it's been a lot of fun to my to have all these guests, 92 guests, including my daughter, episode number 43.
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Uh she graduated um Magna Cumalaudi from ASU pre-med.
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But last year she was on my show to talk about balance, work life, fun, school.
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She was an intern at a at a at a uh uh physician's assistant's office, and she just is the most rounded 23-year-old you've ever met.
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How many kids do you have?
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Three kids.
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Yeah, my daughter, my youngest Emma, was on my podcast, and then my oldest Lauren is uh and my son's in the middle, and they all live at downtown Phoenix in the high rises, and um my son is building tiny homes in Goodyear, and my oldest is helping people with their life insurance needs.
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Oh nice.
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She's the closer.
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Very nice.
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Listening to me talk to clients for for 28 years as a financial advisor, she picked up on it.
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So you were married before?
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I was married before, mm-hmm.
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Yes.
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And how long have you been divorced for?
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Has it been a while?
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It's been a while, yeah.
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Over uh over what 14 years or so.
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And how's dating been since?
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Are you on the dating apps?
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I I am not.
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I I wasn't I well, you know, I I uh ran into a relationship coach in 2010, 11, who just finished, you know, had my divorce finalized, and she shows up at an event and says, uh, you'd be great, uh a great client of mine because you really need to learn about the law of attraction.
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And she kind of sensed I was kind of down, right?
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And of course, 2008-9 wasn't really great for a lot of folks, and there was a transition in my financial planning business, and I just opened my new office, signed a five-year lease, and I hired two people right at the time.
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So I got through it, but uh she she kind of helped me change my mindset to to project attractiveness and and positivity to attract those kinds of people in your life, and she really kind of turned me on to that.
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And then Mark Hyman, Dr.
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Hyman, I was like 20 pounds overweight, depressed, and I found uh I don't know where he found him, but uh I followed his broth diet and for two weeks did that and lost weight and started, you know, um just just getting healthy again, right?
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And then it just kind of evolved from there, and then I met through her network of ladies that she had uh and uh candidates that she thought would be a good fit for me, and found one that was a great fit.
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And uh after dating probably 10, 12, and they were all curated and a great way to go for people, by the way.
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The dating apps I find, you know, you find you know, folks that are just kind of on the surface and they kind of pretend, and it's just you're trying to find them rather than the universe kind of sending them to you.
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I think there's really you gotta be patient, you gotta know what you want, and then kind of articulate.
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Um there's uh Mark Victor Hansen wrote a book.
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He's the guy that chicken soup with the soul here.
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His book uh talked about when he found his wife Crystal, uh very uh uh wise gentleman and articulate and speaker and book writer.
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And he says uh the book that was written by uh Mitzi Purdue wrote a book about him, the Purdue family, and um and wrote about his life.
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And in there was an article or a chapter about how he found Crystal.
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He was very intentional, wrote down 250 characteristics of what he's what his perfect match would be.
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He did.
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Two weeks later, he's speaking, he's out there, he sees a you know, beautiful looking woman out of the audience, and sure enough, uh a week he veteran of a VIP event, and then that's the rest of the story.
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And did she have all 250 things on his checklist?
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Like how what is on that list?
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Is that the same thing?
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It was a long list.
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So Do you have a list?
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Do you have a checklist?
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You know, I I do, and I it kinda it's in my head, but I've written it down.
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But you just kind of know right when you meet with people.
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And so what are you looking for?
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Describe an ideal part.
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Well, I think a someone you connect with, I think that you know instantly when you connect with somebody.
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It's just it's just it has to be it has to be forced, and you there's a a a resonance, there's a a you know, some some chemistry, of course, is attractiveness, and and then it kind of builds from there.
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And then and then you just you know, you try to you know present your authentic self and not pretend, and and uh but so many folks pretend and and so that's the hard part and of trying to find the right person because they have in their mind what they think is the right guy and and sometimes you don't check the boxes and and so deal breakers.
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Deal breakers is um oh I think deal breakers would be um in terms of smoking.
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Yeah, I say smoking for sure.
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Like smoking, um not having you know spiritual side of them or practice some kind of of um you know practice there.
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Like self self-improvement.
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Yes, yes.
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Yes, and that they're just kind of looking for someone to sort of fill their void.
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And you kind of get a sense of that when you first meet.
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But uh you know, yeah.
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So you have you don't want any more kids and you've been snipped, but you've had multiple women try to get you to reverse that, right?
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I've had uh a couple, yes.
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And were you like, hell no?
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Or were you slightly on the fence?
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No, there was one, um, yes.
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I I thought about it, and then my buddy had just gotten reversal and he had a baby boy, and this was twelve years ago.
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And I've always had lots of energy, so I thought, you know, what the heck?
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And um so I but I just didn't I just in the end didn't go there, and that really impacted the relationship because that's what she really wanted, and it just it didn't uh kind of survive that.
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Does she have kids now?
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She has she had one child has one child, yes.
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Uh-huh.
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I always see those funny videos of like it's like what it would be like having a kid at 40 or after 40, and it's like the grandpa walking up to high school graduation or kindergarten drop-off or whatever.
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It's just like, and then pretty soon you're the talk of the school, and all the other moms and dads are talking about you because you're the the old guy or the old lady.
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So a lot of people say, Oh, I'd never want to have kids older because I don't have the energy, but there's another side to that in that when you're young, you get to go out and have fun, and when you become 40, you want to stay in, right?
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So why not have kids when you're staying in, anyways?
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You know?
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Yeah.
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You can stay in with the kids, then you're not missing out on anything.
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That is true.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, uh good and bads to each one.
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Yeah, well, I've I've never wanted to be in anyway.
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I've just that's I guess another, you know, a lot of uh folks I've dated, like they see my social media and you're always out and you have a lot of friends, and you're very what do they say, uh, you're an extrovert.
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So a lot just want to be, you know, nesting and at home and and being together and cuddling.
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I'm like, I like that.
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Don't get me wrong.
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You always go in and blow in.
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You always do something.
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I I and I say that in the sense because it's um it's part of my business, it's part of networking and meeting people.
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And yeah, how do you you're so connected?
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Well, because I put myself out there, I make meaningful connections, and then I develop relationships.
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And then from there I'm able to pull and just you know, and activate people when when when this when the time is right.
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And I'm putting on a uh organizing a music uh a medical innovators mastermind.
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It'll be at the Schufeld Hangar up in Scale Air Park.
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I'm gonna launch it in October, I think second or third, I'll let you know.
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But it's uh medical innovators because I love medicine.
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I'm working with a company right now that'll that is in the process of developing the first non-invasive glucose monitor wearable.
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So, and uh if it's most folks don't know what their standing, you know, resting glucose levels are.
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So again, it all goes back to health, which goes back to mind health, which goes back to sexual health.
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It all derives from what's your glucose level.
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Is it affecting your microcirculation and affecting you know all the things that uh might uh you know either make uh your relationship better or worse?
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So if you get tuned into your health, it just drives so much more success uh when you're when you're there.
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So what have you been on many disaster dates?
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Do you have any terrible dating stories?
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Disaster dates, yeah.
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I mean uh catfished.
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Well, I think when they show up and they want to talk about prior relationships or you know, a date from last week, and you're like, oh, do we really have to do that?
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Like your current date won't be about your past date.
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You know what I think it is?
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It's they're operating on a level of unconsciousness, right?
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They're unconscious that they're even talking about it or bringing it in because they're not even aware of the whole law of attraction.
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And it's just I think people like to talk about misery sometimes and they get in that mindset, and you know within five, ten, two minutes if this is gonna go well.
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So he's like, oh my gosh, I gotta, you know, I'm gonna pay for the mail because I'm like typical, right?
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And I gotta get through this, this uh, and then you have to say politely and just not gonna work, right?
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So or they haven't gotten over it yet.
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They haven't gotten over it yet, correct.
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And they want somebody to be on their side and to validate their feelings and what don't do that with a date, do that with a friend, right?
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I know, but you know, but they were probably just talking about it on the phone before they walked up to the restaurant with their with their best friend or their therapist, and uh and I believe in all that and to get it off your chest and talk about it, it's very cathartic to do that, but don't bring it into the date.
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But a lot of times they do because and so when you know, there's so much advice I want to give.
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I mean, it's it's great to talk about what are the fun, you know, bad, funny dates or this date.
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And but for me, it's you know, to get on your show here.
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I I want to talk about what you know the kind of the foundation of a good of a good experience dating.
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And uh, you know, it's just you through you throw out boundaries, it's really important.
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Guys don't get boundaries at all.
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We go in with an intention of, you know, we're you know, they want sex, and and so many women just say, hey, we want to be friends first, I want to trust you.
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You know, and you should go in with some um just boundaries, but guys just don't think like that.
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And so when I approach so women have that preconceived notion when they walk into a date, he's gonna be like the last jerk I just dated from Bumble Match, or I got set up two weeks ago, right?
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And so pretty quickly I kind of kind of diffuse that and say, you know, I was you gotta show up with respect, boundaries, and then um, you know, you gotta know who who you are and what your attachment style is, right?
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And and then the you know, the five steps of a of a of a relationship are pretty important to know too.
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So anxious attachment styles.
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You're very anxious.
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What are the other attachment styles?
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Well, super.
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Anxious attachment styles.
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There's a anxious avoidant.
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There's there's anxious is avoidant.
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That's there's secure.
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Okay.
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What is the anxious attachment style?
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Because I'm a very anxious person.
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I know.
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Yes, avoidant and disorganized.
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Okay.
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I think the anxious is like you're all you're constantly worried about are they gonna text me?
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What's going on?
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Your mind is like, did I say something to messing?
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Did I say something to messing with?
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Yes, and then you're always psychoanalyzing your your what you've done, and they people pick up on that.
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And so, but you're gonna you're gonna attract that kind of person, by the way.
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And you spiral and you spiral.
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I was like that dating, but when I met my husband, it was completely different.
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Like I was not that way at all.
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I called him if I wanted to, I texted him, whatever.
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I didn't give a flying frick, you know?
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So and that's why I think it works.
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Yeah, because I wasn't stressing about it.
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You weren't like stressing it.
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But why was I I questioned why was I different with him?