June 10, 2026

SILVER FOX VS FRAT BOY: WHO'S BETTER?

SILVER FOX VS FRAT BOY: WHO'S BETTER?
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A guy shows up nothing like his photos, admits he catfished you, then tries to smooth it over with $100 under the table. That is where we start, because it perfectly sums up modern dating chaos and the weird things people think will still count as a win.

We sit down with Megan, a med spa owner and injector, to talk dating confessions she hears all day, Botox for men, and what “natural results” actually means in real life. We also get into where care turns into control when partners start paying for beauty treatments.

Then we go into dating strategy. Silver fox energy versus frat boy chaos, apps versus matchmakers, and why strict filters can backfire. Megan shares what actually worked after divorce, plus first-date disasters, getting stood up, and red flags people ignore way too long.

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00:00 - Catfish Cold Open And Welcome

00:24 - Should Men Get Botox

02:55 - Med Spa Confessions And Paid Self Care

05:44 - Natural Results And Saying No

07:29 - Matchmakers Versus Dating Apps

11:12 - Catfished Date That Came With Cash

13:25 - Non Negotiables And Divorce Reality

17:38 - Stood Up Excuses And First Date Standards

21:46 - Cheating Signs And Wild Deception Stories

25:48 - Celebrity Relationship Debate And Rapid Fire

Catfish Cold Open And Welcome

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, I just totally got catfished. He looks absolutely nothing like his picture. So I found out the guy that I've been dating is married with kids. His wife just reached out to me.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the meat market. The single scene is the slaughterhouse, and we are here to devour it. We are your hosts. I'm Lindsay. I'm Jess. And today's sizzling singer is Megan. Welcome. Thank you for

Should Men Get Botox

SPEAKER_00

having me. So you work in a med spa doing injectables and whatnot. Do you have any male clients? Because I see a lot of men are starting to do that now.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, it's definitely like still an untapped market. About 10% of the aesthetics market is men's, but it's growing. How do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_04

About men in Botox? I'm I I like it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I like it.

SPEAKER_00

I'm for it. I kind of like when a man looks manly and rugged and rough and like natural. I don't know. You can still look rugged and manly and rough and take care of the crow's feet just. Do I say I know that have Botox look like Burt Reynolds? Doesn't he have like a frozen face or like Kenny Rogers? I don't know. I don't know. For me, that's just kind of a turn off.

SPEAKER_04

Well, too much. I mean, uh, but too much Botox in a woman gives a turn off. I think too much, doing too much to your face in general, whether you're a man or a woman, is a turnoff.

SPEAKER_00

But and how do you feel about a man being so insecure that he needs to get Botox? Don't you like a man that's like confident, doesn't give a fuck what people think? I don't know. I'm just being devil's advocate here.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because you so you get Botox, right? Yeah. So you get Botox because you're insecure.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just thinking for a man. No, I'm just thinking from a man's perspective, you know? Why would it be different for a man than a woman? I guess that's true.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah, I think it can be really offensive if you say it to anybody, and I think men get really offended. I actually was kicked off a dating website because I told a guy he needed Botox.

SPEAKER_03

Really? You were kicked off the whole website?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. He reported you for like the bullying and harassment or something. That, or am I trying to solicit clients? But honestly, he had lied about his age, and I said, Hey, you could say you're this age if you come see me. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00

He did not like that and he reported me. But hey, he lied about his age. Yeah. A typical man turning it around, making you the villain. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know. I think I think men should embrace it. I think, I think a little, a little, you know.

SPEAKER_02

It is hard for me to date a guy who's not open to it. You know, if you haven't had it okay, we can work on it. But if you're not gonna be open to it, this is what I do. So it's really hard for me to look at somebody analyzing their face and I'm like, okay, I want to in my chair.

SPEAKER_04

Well, and it's like he clearly wants to be younger. That's the thing, is like, I don't think it necessarily should be something that all men subscribe to. Like, it's fine if not. But if you're gonna be that man who is lying about their age, who is trying to look younger, who is trying to act younger, if you're already doing those things, anyways, it's like, yeah, just do it.

SPEAKER_00

I agree. Yeah.

Med Spa Confessions And Paid Self Care

SPEAKER_00

So do you get a lot of people like you know how you go to the hairdresser and you just spill your drama and you they're kind of like your therapist, right? Do you get people doing the same thing in your expensive therapist?

SPEAKER_02

But yes, I mean, for whatever reason, I think I've always been that person that people feel really comfortable talking to. But in my chair, people tell me everything.

SPEAKER_00

Have you heard some crazy shit?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. You know, I do have like clients, you know, it can get expensive, but I have these ladies in their 50s and 60s, and they want to do everything because they're dating these guys in their 30s and they've got stories for sure.

SPEAKER_00

God, so we've got to keep up with the younger women and dang.

SPEAKER_04

Do you ever have women who come in and they're either like their boyfriends or their sugar daddies are paying for their injections?

SPEAKER_02

And vice versa. I have a client, she's older, and she's paying for her boyfriend's treatment. Right.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I've seen the TikTok videos, and I don't know if you've seen these, but they're they're satire, I think, but they're obviously everything is based off of real life, right? And it's like the girl and she's like, honey, I need $800 for my Botox injections. And so he sends it, and then she like looks at her injector, and it's like, all right, so that'll be $550. And she just asked for $800 for her injections. Have you ever had something crazy like that where it's like you're being put in a situation?

SPEAKER_02

Not exactly, but I mean, women appreciate having these treatments paid for so much. I had a client from Mother's Day that it got a thousand dollar gift certificate. She was booking the next day. I think guys don't understand, like, this is part of being taken care of. This is better than getting flowers or whatever else you can do. And I'm like, I'm surprised we don't get more guys like paying for these things. This is what women want.

SPEAKER_00

Flowers die within a week, but like a little bit of Botox will last, you know, make you feel it make it really makes you feel so much better about yourself, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, or even a facial, like it's self-care time. It's relaxed. That's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like it's a good, that's a good like dating hack. My sister, I was dating this guy in Dallas for my sister who lives in Dallas, and we went to get um manicures or pedicures. I was there's a nail salon, I can't remember what we were doing. Um, but the guy that I was dating had called the salon and paid for our services before we got there. I thought that was really sweet. He ended up being like a love bomber and not a great person in the end, but like the thought behind it was really cute.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, definitely. I've had guys that like are like, hey, do you do you need money for your nails? And Apple Payme or whatever. I think that goes a long way. All these treatments are really expensive. They want the woman that looks good, but they have to realize that it costs a lot to maintain that. And it's not just money, it's time too. So if we're putting our time into it and they can help out with the money aspect, that's amazing.

Natural Results And Saying No

SPEAKER_00

So now, uh do you think because I know a lot of people in England people say that like uh not necessarily Botox, but fillers or the work that people are getting done is going too far. People at such a young age are doing it too soon. Do you think it's going too far here? People are just getting too much work done too young.

SPEAKER_02

I think um years ago, yes, but we are seeing a return to natural. There are more regenerative treatments now. So thankfully, I think we're seeing that turn. You'll still get the people that are filler blind, we call it. They have no clue, they just keep getting more and more. I will turn people away. I actually have a whole body dysmorphia questionnaire. If they can't look in the mirror and we can't talk about it, I can't treat them. So I think more practitioners are aware of that now too. But um, so I think we're returning to that. So I think that's good, but you will see it out there still.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna ask you do you have people come in that just have too much done and you think it's too much, and uh they ask you to do something you don't feel comfortable doing, so you will turn them away.

SPEAKER_02

Years ago, lately, I think people find me because I really do focus on natural results, so usually they don't want that. But years ago, yeah, I had this um woman that was like, I want to look like a duck, you know, blow my lips up, like this is what I want. And we had to part ways. Like, I was like, I don't want my name on that. I don't want somebody saying, Who did your work? And they say Megan, and they're like, Well, I'm not going to her. So, yeah. That's actually smart. You do have to think of that. Yeah. Where do you work? What's the name of the salon? Um, it's called DHH Med Spa for Desert Holistic Health. It's in Scottsdale Ranch.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, because I like that whole natural where you do stuff, but it looks more natural. It doesn't look so forced and fake.

SPEAKER_02

The best injectable is undetectable.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

Matchmakers Versus Dating Apps

SPEAKER_02

So now, are you on the dating apps? So I was. I um seeing somebody now. She got kicked up. Yeah. I actually ended up finding a matchmaker. Really? Really? And um am seeing somebody now. And I think the first date I went on from the matchmaker, it was a match. So wow.

SPEAKER_00

I always wonder if these personal matchmakers work.

SPEAKER_02

Is it a local matchmaker? So she's not, but we had two different matchmakers. So his matchmaker was local. I had found her, I think, because I was downloading all the apps, then I got an Instagram ad for a matchmaker. So I signed up through there.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. And so the first date was success. Was it love at first sight?

SPEAKER_02

So first she calls me and she's like, Hey, he's not in your desired age range. She's like, he's older than me, he's 19 years older. So she's like, I know he's not in your age range, but like, why don't you just go on a date and see? And so I did. I kind of read his profile. So I'm like, okay, I'm I'm pretty open. Um, I always feel like you never know until you go talk with somebody. It could be a match, it might not. Um, so we went to dinner and we had like a four and a half hour dinner and it went really well. So then I was like, okay, it's okay that we have this age gap. And yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So happy for you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And he's local. Yeah. Nice.

SPEAKER_04

I can see how the matchmaker, because that's a lot of the complaint that we get, and that's the guys who have lied about their age, they say that that's why they do it. Cause when they set their filters on the dating apps, it's such a like black and white, like it won't send your profile to women who are looking within a certain age range. Yeah. And so that's interesting because did you have your age range when you were on the apps set like he would never have I would have filtered him out. Like he would have filtered out automatically on your dating app.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like they should get rid of the age. And because you're cutting yourself off from so many potential matches just because of stupid age. What if they're two years older than you, your filtered age? You're missing out.

SPEAKER_02

I know that's hard. So then it's like, okay, then one more year, and then it could be one more year. Yeah. Exactly. It's hard.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like it drives it drives people to lie about their age to same thing as height. And yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And like really, you're you set your height to six foot and above, but you're filtering out people that are like 5'11. What if the love of your life is 5'11? You'd still probably date him if every he checked every other box, but you're missing those opportunities because of that stupid filter.

SPEAKER_02

I know. I have a group of friends that are like tall girls and they're like so strict on it. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. I mean, one is shorter.

SPEAKER_00

Come on, guys, but they're so strict on that. But men lie so much. My sister recently went on a date with a guy that said he was six three, and she's like, he was probably like 5'10. What? It is like put six foot, so you come up in that filter, but to put six three, yeah, why? Just say six foot. I mean, you're still lying, but it's not this big of a difference. I was just expecting this like tall glass of water.

SPEAKER_04

Between 5'11 and 6', you could wear some like Doc Martens or something. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So is this a you're a medical director, trainer, expert, Kate Switness?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I do a lot of things. I own the med spa. Um, I do some consulting for law firms, I do some trainings for companies where I go to other med spas and train new injectors. Um, I'm medical director for a few other med spas. So if you're a nurse in Arizona, you can own your own business, but you still have to have somebody with prescriptive authority. So I'm able to help with that and help with their protocols. So I like having my hands in lots of things.

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Nice.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and let's see, what is the craziest fate that you've ever been on?

Catfished Date That Came With Cash

SPEAKER_00

Do you have any disaster date stories?

SPEAKER_02

I don't think it was a disaster. It actually turned out okay, but like initially, so I was totally catfished. Um, but this guy, he admitted to it. We're actually on the date. He had been drinking, and then he goes, you know what? I catfished you. Like he flat out said it. Like, and he he was like way heavier than his photos, way older. But he goes, I catfished you, and he's like, I'm thinking about it now. And he goes under the table with a hundred dollar bill and hands it to me. And I'm like, Okay. So then I was meeting my girlfriend afterwards. So I was like, drinks on me. Like I got catfished, but like at least he, you know, gave me some money for it. Also, what? What that is like the weirdest thing. Well, I told other people this story and they're like, I've heard of this. Like, I think this guy does this. Like, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

Like, like, thank you for your time. Here's a hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like that's like an S in a window. But like, is he trying to feel the vibe? If like somebody like is fine with it, then he does like he continues. But if he's like, oh, this is awkward, I'm gonna like not make it worse. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

Maybe like maybe like if they're down with it and they're down to stay for a hundred dollars, what would they do for five hundred dollars? Like, I just took it and left, so I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Trying to see if you didn't even say trying to see if you're gonna do the sugar baby thing. Like that's probably what or maybe he hopes that he he assumes that he would never get a date if he didn't catfish. So he's getting these dates, and maybe he's hoping that they'll fall in love with his personality. I don't know. He was money, he was like drunk.

SPEAKER_02

He had been there for a while, I think. So I don't even know if he was Did he look different? Did were his pictures completely someone else? Um no, I think I mean I think they were old, but also he had gained like a lot of weight and he was like balding. And so yeah, totally different. I think it was him, but it was a while ago.

SPEAKER_00

Well, at least he admits it and he feels bad, so offers money for your time, I guess. A lot of people just show up and like don't apologize. Don't that's true.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't leave Matt. I think I would have probably left Matt otherwise, but then I was like, hey, okay, like he compensated me for my time. So drinks all made.

SPEAKER_04

Was

Non Negotiables And Divorce Reality

SPEAKER_04

so your date with the matchmaker, was that the first date that you went on? That was the first match that was made. What are some of the things that you were looking for? Like, what were your non-negotiables?

SPEAKER_02

Um, so I so now I've been divorced and I've gone through it and I kind of I've made a list in my notes, like my must-haves, my like nice to have, and my red flags. And like number one for me is kindness. So that was really important to me. Um, I consider myself more of like a sapiosexual kind of person. So I am really into intellect. So they have to be really intelligent, they have to be really motivated. But I look more at that than I am like, okay, do they have a six-pack? Are they six foot tall? Like, that's really what's important to me. If they're not kind and we meet and they're well accomplished, but they're rude, it's not gonna go anywhere.

SPEAKER_00

Nice. And you're a dog mom, you adopt rescue dogs?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I'm huge into rescue, that's a big part of my business. And my dog is actually there to greet people when they come. I love that. Yeah, that's cute.

SPEAKER_00

Nice. Do you have a crazy unique talent that not many people know about? Something that not many people know about you, a fact.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. I I I'm really good at art too. So people know, you know, I'm good with faces, but um, I love doing art as well, like painting. And I was um really good at art growing up, like doing portraits. So I think that plays into what I do now working on people's faces. Nice.

SPEAKER_01

Have you ever walked out mid-date? Um besides the one where it was that one.

SPEAKER_02

Um no, you know, I did like I did have a guy that totally lied about his age, but he also looked really good. But I like really early on, I mentioned that I hated when somebody started the date off with a lie. And he's like, Okay, well, I'm 57, and I lied about it. And so I was like, okay, so we like continued on the date, but knew it wasn't going anywhere because he had lied about it, but I continued it because we were like going to a comedy club and had tickets, and I was like, whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I still have yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I was like, I'll have fun, but like this isn't going anywhere.

SPEAKER_00

I have a question. So a guy lies about his age. Yeah, you go on the date and you realize that you like this person and you want to get to know them and them to meet your family. How do you, you know, just be like, sorry, I lied? Like, that's gotta be cringe and awkward, right? Yeah, and I don't know if I'd want somebody that lied.

SPEAKER_04

Right, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_02

So why lie in the first place? Well, I was dating somebody, and I think I didn't find out till two months later that he had lied about his age, and that was like a big problem. And he like tried to say, Oh, like when I signed up, you know, it was wrong, and I've tried to change it, and I can't.

SPEAKER_04

And I'm like, I've heard that excuse like used as an excuse from multiple of my friends.

SPEAKER_02

No, you lied when you signed up and then you couldn't change it.

SPEAKER_04

Like, yeah, you decided to lie and then thought maybe I shouldn't have lied because now it's a problem, and now you can't change it. Yeah, yeah. How long were you single in between your divorce and now?

SPEAKER_02

So, not really that long. It was just finalized recently. Um, but I was in a situation where I had told my ex-husband I wanted a divorce, and two days later he ended up in the hospital and ended up with cancer. Oh, and so I ended up staying because I would look like a horrible person, obviously. That wasn't the time to leave. So I stayed for a lot longer than I wanted to. So then when I actually he recovered fully, and when he recovered, I was kind of like ready to move on because I had been planning on it. So pretty soon after I had started dating. Because you were already checked out mentally. I know.

SPEAKER_04

Did cancer change him at all? Like, did he try to save then the marriage?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he definitely did not want me to leave. Um, he asked me to stay, um, but I was definitely already checked out.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. How long ago were you introduced to this new guy from The Matchmaker?

SPEAKER_02

Um, in December.

SPEAKER_04

In December. Okay. Okay. So it's fairly real.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever been cheated on? Not that I'm aware of. Are you ready for it?

SPEAKER_04

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Stood Up Excuses And First Date Standards

SPEAKER_04

They help you keep more in your wallet. We help you keep more in your relationship. Okay, so we have a listener question. All right, so I got stood up on a first date, but but he had an excuse. Would you guys buy this? So I had a first date planned with this guy at 6 30 p.m. today. We agreed on it earlier in the day, but then I didn't hear from him at all after 1 p.m. 6 30 comes, no show, no message. I assume I've been stood up and move on. At 8 45 p.m., he finally texts me apologizing. His explanation. He was at his boss's house in the afternoon, got asked to go to another city with them, stayed there for hours, and forgot his phone at the house, so he couldn't contact me. He says he just got back and immediately texted me. I'm not sure if I'm being too harsh, but this feels off. Like even if the story is true, disappearing all day and missing a first date without any heads up doesn't scream reliability. Would you give him another chance or is this an obvious red flag? Red flag, run. Run, run, run. That is such an excuse.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_02

So I kind of had something similar happen. And he kept on wanting to call me. So I was like, well, so you want to call me and waste my time now, too, on top of all this. So I told him, I was like, so you wasted my time. If you're serious, I said, send me money. And I said, send me money for my treatments, my beauty treatments, whatever. It'll show you're serious. And he was done. So I was like, you're not, you're not serious. That's kind of what I've done. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, you would believe it? Oh my god, just no. No, I wouldn't believe it. I'm just saying, like, as a live-in-the-moment person, like I could see me doing that. Like, I could see me being somewhere.

SPEAKER_00

Like So if here's the thing. If I forgot my phone, if that was true, I would borrow my friend's phone and either try to remember your number or go on social media and message you somehow.

SPEAKER_04

I would try to find a way to not to no-show, like to not no-show for the date. But like the part where like you're at a friend's house or you're at your boss's house, and like, you know, you're in Phoenix and they want to go up to North Scottsdale, a different city. You know what I mean? So like you leave with them for the afternoon, forget your phone. I I could see myself doing that, just being sort of the in the moment type of person that I am. So, like, there's part of the story that I can see being true, but I also would be trying to get a hold of who I was supposed to meet at 6:30 to let them know. Like, because it's not rocket science.

SPEAKER_00

Borrow their phone, log into your dating app, log, download the dating app, log into it, and send them a message. Yes, exactly. There's no excuse in this day and age. Exactly. Yeah. There's a way.

SPEAKER_04

There's a way. There's a way.

SPEAKER_00

And the fact that he did, even if it's true, the fact that he didn't go out of his way to like contact you to warn you, I think is a deal breaker.

SPEAKER_02

Or did he go on another date? It didn't work out. And so now he's going back to you.

SPEAKER_04

That's more likely what's happened. Is he had another date or had another date earlier in the afternoon, earlier in the evening, and it ran long. And he did and he didn't finish until 8 45. And that's when he texted.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So my sister was supposed to go on a first date, and she no showed, and he didn't call contact her. And finally, he texted her like 11 o'clock that night, and their date was supposed to be around happy hour. And he said, Oh, I got pulled over. And she's like, Okay. And it's like that was his excuse. And he never called her after. And it's like, so you couldn't call after you got pulled over. And he was just given a speeding ticket. That's what he claims. But it's like, why couldn't you call after? And it's not like you went to jail. Like these excuses. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I love it. I had a guy one time text me and he's like, Hey, I can't meet up. Um, I got like a flat tire, and I was like, we don't have a date tonight. So, oops, wrong girl.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, right? Seriously. Well,

Cheating Signs And Wild Deception Stories

SPEAKER_00

that's funny. So, one of the most Googled questions when it comes to dating and relationships is: how can you tell if your partner is cheating? What are the signs of a cheating partner? So I know you've been cheated on. What are your signs? How can you tell? Is there anything specific?

SPEAKER_04

Well, that was a very unique situation. That wasn't just like I had a partner that cheated on me. That was like a whole mental health. Like he was scamming. Like he was a scammer. He was pretending to be someone that he wasn't.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's true. Like that it So for me, like if they're like changes in mood, if they're easily irritable, if um change in schedule, if they're suddenly going to the gym a lot, or they're staying late at work, or they can't make plans with you. Like, oh, this weekend I'm gonna this a guy told me this. I can't hang out this weekend because I'm gonna spend all weekend with my nephews. It's like, okay, well, why don't you invite me along to hang out with your nephews, you know?

SPEAKER_04

I've never really been cheated on, like in that sense, like in the traditional sense of like my partner was having an affair with someone else or was sleeping with other people. But I feel like I'm like very in tune to like people's energy around me. And so I feel like I would be able to feel like a shift in energy, like a shift in their attention, like their attention isn't at home. Like I feel like that's how I would be able to tell, but I've never actually like gone through. I've never had that. I've never had ex I've never experienced it.

SPEAKER_00

Like they they're a bit more become more withdrawal.

SPEAKER_04

But I feel like I'd notice, I'd notice a difference in their like characteristics. And I'm sure like some secrecy with their phone, maybe. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you've you've never experienced that? No. Oh, lucky you. So now um we are going to this article that I read. Um, a man, I don't I'm sure you read this because it happened in Arizona. A man filed for divorce after discovering his wife of 10 years had been flying to Arizona every seven weeks since 2018 to care for a beloved aunt who didn't actually exist. So Megan 42 was confronted after her husband Bryce noticed 42 identical Airbnb bookings for a property called the Sawaro Rest, all reserved under her maiden name and paid from a credit card that he'd never seen. A review of the six-year deception revealed that there were 42 trips to the same Airbnb, zero hospital records under any name matching Aunt Deanna, a framed photo of Aunt Deanna traced to a 2014 LinkedIn profile of a Phoenix realtor, a birthday card signed Love Aunt D that matched her own handwriting, a funeral program Megan printed herself for a funeral that never existed. And then when confronted, Megan told Bryce that the aunt was a framing device, but the rest of the time was real. She claims that she needed a place that was only hers. She needed alone time. Turns out she was cheating the whole time.

SPEAKER_04

That's so much work. Right. How exhausting. I'm exhausted, Jerry. Just listening to that.

SPEAKER_00

Like you hear stories of these guys that have multiple women on the hop. Like, how exhausting and stressful. I don't understand. Nobody got time for that. And then oh my god, I saw this TikTok. This woman found out her husband was cheating because she got a notification. Have you heard of smart scales? I didn't know that smart scales existed. So she got a notification at two in the morning that someone stepped on her smart scale that was 130 pounds. That's how she found out he was cheating. There's like too much technology. I feel like nowadays you cannot get away with cheating.

SPEAKER_02

You can't, you can't. You really can't. I have a client with a good story that was telling me, like, with her cameras at her house. And so her husband was like, um, you have guys over. And she was like, No, it's actually our son. It's his friends. And she did have guys over, but he believed it. He believed it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's hilarious. Trusting little soul. So now it's time for the celebrity cut where we marinate in the juices of the celebrities.

Celebrity Relationship Debate And Rapid Fire

SPEAKER_00

So you know Lily Phillips, right? She's Bonnie Blue's competitor. She's known for sleeping with 1,113 men in 12 hours. So she's in a relationship now. She has a boyfriend. And she says she's allowed to get cracked by other men in her new relationship. That's the wording she uses. She's allowed to get cracked. So OnlyFan Star Lily Phillips is opening up about the dynamic of her new relationship. She says, I have a boyfriend, but I'm still allowed to get cracked by other men. Obviously, I'm a mattress actress in the adult industry, whatever you want to call it. So my job is to get cracked by other people. Phyllis explained that her boyfriend is super mature, understand that it's just a job, and that she doesn't have feelings for other people. And that, um, yeah, she's in a monogamous relationship. He doesn't, he's not with anyone else. She's offered for him to be with other people, but he says, no, I'm just here for you. Um, and then she says he's very supportive. The day I come came home from doing a gangbang, he bought me chocolates and wrote me a lovely, gorgeous card. And he just gets that this is my passion. I love my job so much. It's not something that I would quit for anyone. And he doesn't want me to quit. He enjoys me being myself and doing what makes me happy. And then she actually goes on to say that she's offered for him to be without anyone else and he doesn't want to. How do you feel about that? It's crazy to me. I guess different horses, different courses, right? Someone for everyone, right? And then it's funny, she ends with um, how do you someone asked her, How do you where do you see yourself when you're 50 years old? Hopefully retired, maybe still shooting content once a month, but not too often. I'd say married with kids is a nice in a nice big house in the countryside. But right now I'm very career focused.

SPEAKER_04

God, that's crazy to me. I don't know. I don't I couldn't do it. I couldn't. I just couldn't. No. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00

It's not for me.

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_00

But now it's time to get to know you with Zoey, sponsored by Zoeyo, your neighborhood. Yogurt rapid fire questions. So when you were single, would these be red flags or no? He makes you split the bill on a first date. Red flag. Still follows his ex on Instagram.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I guess it depends if they have kids. Um, but otherwise it would be That's actually a good point if they have kids together.

SPEAKER_00

Although my husband doesn't isn't friends with his ex on Facebook. So I don't know. But yeah, if you share kids, that might make a difference. A bad tipper? Red flag has no social media at all.

SPEAKER_02

Um actually my boyfriend now doesn't, so that wouldn't be a red flag.

SPEAKER_00

So where should someone not take you on a first date?

SPEAKER_02

Um I feel like a movie you can't really get to know somebody.

SPEAKER_00

Is watching porn considered cheating?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

Before you're intimate, is it appropriate to ask your date how many people they've been with?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

Is it appropriate is it acceptable to have sex on a first date?

SPEAKER_02

Um I wouldn't, but some people do.

SPEAKER_00

Do you have any other questions? Thank you so much for joining us this week at the meat market, and thank you so much, Megan, and thank you to our sponsor, Tactical Tax Strategies. If you want to preserve your wealth and keep more of your own money in your own wallet, you need to go to Tactical Tax Strategies. We'll see you next week at the Meat Market.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, I just totally got catfished. He looks absolutely nothing like his picture. So I found out the guy that I've been dating is married with kids. His wife just reached out to me.