HE SAID “I LOVE YOU” IN WEEK 2. LOVE BOMBING OR THE ONE?

A Childhood Accident And TBI

SPEAKER_02 0:00

So your social media says you are a miracle child of God.

SPEAKER_01 0:03

What does that mean? I was in a car accident when I was five with my grandpa, and he was taking me to daycare. And my mom was telling him not to take me that day, that she would pick me up after work. And he because it was raining and he had a headache, and he drove me anyway. And he went to go cut someone off at a fork in the road. And then a car, his car hydroplaned, and then a car hit him. And then my head hit the window. So then I died at the scene. And yes, and then they revived me, took me to the hospital. I died again. And they revived me, and then I was in a coma for two weeks. And then I was five, five years old, and I had to learn to walk and talk all over again. And I had casts on my arms and legs, I remember, and going to physical therapy and all that. And um, I have a TBI, so I have um the memory part of my brain is damaged, so the short-term memory part. So then in school, I needed in-class support and all that, and just struggled a lot, like with memory, memory things and stuff, like tests were really hard for me. Yeah, and all that. So and I still struggle like now, which is really hard. And I wrote a book about it actually. Oh on Amazon. Yes. What is it called? Middle of Nowhere Thoughts by Camille Dentino.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

Oh, I'll have to get that. That sounds great. Yeah. And not to make light of your accident, um, but it's almost like the 51st date story. You know, I hear that all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

And my mom watches that movie and she goes, It might remind me of you. And I'm like, Okay, thanks.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

That is a miracle though. Like, wow, you died twice. And do you remember anything from that?

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Um I do remember like being in a wheelchair in the shower, um, which is weird. And then I remember being on a bed eating fruity pebbles, and I also was fed through a tube, right? When I was in the coma, and I kind of remember like that milk-like substance, and it was crazy, it's a weird memory. But those three things always like that's what I can pick out, you know. And I didn't see my family for two months in the hospital, so they sent me and my family when I got out to the White House. So I got to meet the president, I got a picture with the president. Who was the president at the time? Bush.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

And then I toured the White House and it was really fun. Oh, wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

How was did your grandfather was he okay? He was okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

He actually sprained his wrists, and that's about it. That's it. So yeah, he got lucky. Thank God.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

So it's crazy. Were you in a car seat? In a um, no, I was not. Just in the back seat. Were you buckled up? Actually, you know, I might have been in a car seat. But now that I think about it, you know. Yeah. And I was, yes, always buckled. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

Thank God you were buckled, you know. I know. It's scary. So now I'm very cautious on the roads, like super just aware of everything. So and you're from Jersey? New Jersey, yeah. Jersey. How long have you been

New Jersey To Arizona Through Dance

SPEAKER_01 3:00

here for? For five years. Yeah. I was I do, I love it. Yeah. I didn't try to go home for like a year um to see if that's where I was supposed to be after being out here for three years. And then I realized that's not really my life anymore. I just love hiking and camping and I just love it. What brought you here? I was just um bored pretty much, and I was going through like breakup after breakup and just like not like literally not knowing where I want to be and what I want to do and all that. So I just kind of took a whim and did a six-month lease. Uh rented a room in Scottsdale and just kind of made a home out of it and got into dance, country swing. Oh. Because I love country and I love dancing. I danced my whole life. And they put me in that after my accident um to kind of strengthen my memory. Um, so I just fell in love with dancing and stuff. So I met all my friends through dancing out here. How old are you? I'm 33. Okay. Have you dated much here? I did date a few guys out here. Um yeah, I mean, just like short things. Like when I first moved out, and then I dated a guy for three years, and we were on a professional dance team together and we traveled and just competed a lot. So you're good. Yeah, it's I mean, I'm experienced for sure. Yeah. I love dance though. It's like my favorite. So, long story short, that was a toxic relationship. And in order to get rid of that, I had to move back home to Jersey. It just had to like get away. And that's what brought me back to Jersey. And then once I cleared the air of that, I was able to come back and like start fresh, kind of without that.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

So you're from Jersey Shore. Did you ever see them filming or meet any of those Jersey Shore clubs? I did see them in some clubs, yes. Yeah, the on the seaside. You know what's funny? So my family and I were on Family Feud, and we were killing the rounds. And it all came down to this last, we were killing them, but they got the triple triple point round. So it came like neck to neck. And their question, the make or break question, make or break question was name four states that you think of when it comes to sun, sea, and surf. What would you think?

SPEAKER_03 5:18

We've uh you've asked.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

So what'd you say? So they got the top ones, which were Florida, California, and Hawaii. And then they said Nevada for the fourth, like sun, sea, and surf. So it came to our family. So we're looking for the last one. And we were choosing between Texas and Jersey Shore. And we couldn't decide. We're like, oh, we have no clue. But my husband was like, well, they made an entire show of Jersey Shore. So we're gonna go with Jersey Shore. Beat up the beat, Steve. We're gonna go with Jersey Shore. It was Texas. Who's this with Texas? What do you think of Switch and Serve? I would have said the Jersey Shore, but anyways, that's my Jersey Shore story.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

I

Roommate Turns Boyfriend Then Unravels

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love that.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

So do you do you have luck dating the guys here? How are the got men here? Um, terrible. That's what I've heard.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

They're just terrible. Cannot stick to one woman. And I found that out the hard way. Oh no. Yeah. So it's so funny that Tyler asked me to do this because I'm in a very like a raw situation that like kind of just happened and it's super fresh. And I was like, wow, what a way to like talk about it. Like podcasts on a podcast. Put it out there. I love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Therapy.

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I know literally.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

So how long were you with this person for?

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Um, it was short. I met him in July. Okay. And then um, I didn't want things to happen. And they like two months after meeting him and stuff. He lives with me. He's my roommate, actually. I met him on roomies.com because I desperately needed a roommate because mine had moved out months ago and left me with the rent. Some girl I moved here with that I met on Scottsdale roommates. And you can't trust anybody, right? So I whatever. She left me. I went on roomies.com and interviewed a ton of women and they bailed out, didn't want to do it. And I was like, let me just be open to a guy roommate because I was dating a guy for like two months and he had a girl roommate and I didn't like that. But then I became best friends with her. So I was like, this can work. I can be open to a guy. Long story short, was open to it. He came, moved in in three days after I met him, gave me his half, all that. And then yeah, he that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

He started dating a roommate.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Well, he was going through a divorce or a separation. So he left, and that's why he needed a place to stay. And I was like, oh, okay. Like, I didn't know if he was gonna file or whatever, but we became really good friends and just like really, you know, you live with him. So he was like, and I was always out dancing every night. Like, he's like, Maybe you should stay home more and like maybe we should connect more. He started talking my ear off about his situation, told me everything. He has his wife, his some girl at work, his work wife. And I was like, this guy's got a lot going on. Like, I will never, and he's very attractive. But I was like, I will never cross that. Like, I and then he told me one night that he liked me after we were connecting, and I was like, You don't like me, you don't even know me. He sounds like he likes everybody, yeah, anyone that gives him attention. So pretty much um told him nothing's happening until he files and gets rid of the work wife, all that stuff, and then told me a month later that everything, you know, was good, and he said he was my boyfriend, and I was like, okay, whatever, because we would go camping every weekend, just like spend a lot of time together, just friends, and just like really get along. And we like the same things. And then he just became obsessed with me, told me he was in love with me, all this crazy stuff, wants me to take me to Hawaii, Oregon, like Montana, like all these places, and like Texas, and I'll come home with me for Christmas, like all these things. And we were gonna buy a townhouse together in February when the lease ends, like all this stuff. Long story short, like his wife like found out that he was dating somebody, but then I thought he filed. So then he didn't um do that yet because he was stalling and doom scrolling instead of doing that. He said he got distracted. So then I'm like, and then two months stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_03 9:22

He he he didn't file for divorce because he was busy scrolling social media. Yeah, he said he was he got distracted. Okay, okay, okay. I just needed to write that up. Yeah, that's crazy. That's like, it's not like, oh, sorry, I haven't had time because I've been working so much, or there's a family emergency, or my grandmother passed away. Or really messed up from it. Yeah, yeah. Busy scrolling social medical media. Okay, yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

No, keep going. Keep going. Um, so then I, you know, was questioning him after that to make sure like his the girl at work that he was hooking up with or whatever, like that was done. Cause I was like, I don't want to fall, because he's like, you need to be all in in this. Be all in, be all in or be all out. And I was like, Well, I like you and I really want to work on this. And then he he ended up filing. And then I said, okay, like I want to be all in. So I was making sure that she was gone. And every time I would bring her up, he'd be like, She doesn't work there anymore. I don't see her anymore. I don't have to deal with her. Stop bringing it up. And I was like, he blocked her and everything, and right in front of me to make sure like I feel satisfied. Thought that was very sweet and respectful. Two months go by and we're like best friends, best friends every single weekend we spent together, every night we spent together. Like I wasn't going out dancing anymore. And if I was, he was with me, like super loyal, super like cut off everybody for this guy to focus on him because I'm all in now, right? And when I'm all in, I'm such a lover that I'm just gonna be like in love with you. And like he became my life. And then this last weekend, Saturday night, we had a fire, and then 11 p.m., the work wife called him and her name was under Rabbit. I said, Who's Rabbit? And he told me the truth. He said that's her favorite animal, and that he always called her that. So I don't want to fight. And I just was like, we just had the best night ever. And he told me he was so in love with me an hour before that, and so obsessed with me. And then yeah, and then that happened. Get home. We had a whole day planned on Sunday, so I didn't want to ruin that. So we woke up at 5 a.m. Sunday, we listen to church on the way to the edge of the world in Sedona. We go up there and we camp, set a fire, all that hammocks. We hang out in our hammocks every Sunday. That was our thing. Hammock hangs and campfire convos, like such a thing, right? And then that happens, and then I find out Sunday night. Well, she messaged me on Instagram on Sunday night. I never even met this girl.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

And she goes, The wife or the work wife?

SPEAKER_01 11:58

The work wife. The work wife, okay. And she goes, Are you dating a guy named? Anyway, asked me if I was dating him, and I said, uh, I didn't answer. He said, block her and whatever. Block her and delete that. And I was like, Yeah, I'm not dealing with that. And then the next day I'm at work and I'm losing my mind, right? Because I'm like, I'm gonna find things out. So I messaged her back and I unblocked her and I messaged her. I didn't really say anything mean, I just told her that wasn't interested in her because he wasn't, right? Like the guy wasn't interested. So um I just kind of said, save your heart and like move on to anybody else. Anyway, he calls me. Uh the day was fine. He cooked me dinner that night. Everything was perfect, everything was great. Something in my gut told me something was wrong, something was off. Um, I find out that he never blocked her on his work phone because he has three phones. And then she was under the work phone as an exclamation exclamation point. Oh my god. So put those together. Um, yeah. And then Tuesday morning, because he goes to work at four in the morning. Um she was at his job at four in the morning and slapped him in the face and all that stuff. And because he she found out about me, you know, because like she obviously thought that they were dating this whole time. So then this is kind of what I was dealing with. So now I'm like, I cut it off because he's like, I tried to get rid of her. And I'm like, if you tried to get rid of her, you would have done that in order to date me. I said to get rid of her. So then he lied and he said, I don't know how she became unblocked, and I don't know how she's reaching out or why she has hope, but she wants me for sure. And I'm like, that doesn't make me feel good at all.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

No, and isn't your work wife aren't okay. So I thought the definition of work wife or work husband was like your bestie of the opposite sex at work. I didn't think it was actually someone that you're hooking up with.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Yeah. So is it? I don't know. I always thought it was I always thought it was someone that like you're working with like that's very closely that you're attracted. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Hookup, I guess, yeah. That hookup, I guess. I never thought that the hookup part, I never thought that it was an actual relationship. Yeah. The work wife, work husband.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

I thought it was just somebody that you were attracted to, to be honest. Kind of.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

I am saying, but now maybe somebody in the office that you like flirted with or worked closely with, but didn't actually have a physical relationship with.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

So she ended it with him. So I don't know if she ended it with him, but I like he was so mad at me because he didn't come home that day. And then he was mad at you.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Of course, he turned it around.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Yeah, and then he turned it around on me and he blamed me for just everything, pretty much. And I was like, and then he was screaming at me and telling, like, downplaying me and telling me, like, like cursing at me, telling me to shut the fuck up and telling me like I'm stupid and like all these things, like gaslighting you, mean, just really mean. And I sit there because I don't want to fight. And then he's yelling at me, and I'm like, what else do you have to say? Like, you know, because I'm like, go ahead. Like, I go, no way. Like, this is the guy that God has sent for me. So, like, no way. So I'm already checked out, and he's like, You're not even acting like you care. And I'm like, Do you want me to get on my hands and knees and cry and say, like, I'm sorry? Because I don't feel like I've done anything wrong. You're the one talking to two women while you're still legally married. This isn't okay, and this is not how I roll. Because he's like, you know, always telling me to tell him something sweet, be all in, like only him, block out all these other guys, and it just so like don't go out dancing, and like then he could do whatever he wants, you know? So controlling and narcissistic. He's like textbook. And I tried to bring him to Jesus and all that. We'd go to church, we'd watch church, and his dad was so proud of him because he finally is coming back to Jesus, and he was like, Yeah, dad, like she's great, like I'm in love with her, and like all this stuff, right? And it's just crazy that someone can be like, I'm so in love with you, and then be like, This is over, I'm done, all in like 24 hours. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

Do you still live with him?

SPEAKER_01 16:14

Um, I do, but I because I told him, I'm like, hey, are you gonna pay rent until February? And he's like, I'm paying rent until February, and then I'm done and I'm out. Sign these papers, and you better figure out what you're gonna do with your life. And I'm like, What? I gave you a place to live.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

I feel like I wonder if he uses the like roomies.com because he was roomies.com. You said you found him. Yeah, I wonder if he uses sites like that. I wonder if he'll go back on that site and find another single girl to live with for six months. Like, you can't move me. Because that's like his scam. Like, I wonder if this is his scam.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

No, I bet his work wife took him back. Some women can be stupid and be talked into. I guarantee he said what he needed to say to get her to open her arms again and open her legs again.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

I think she took him back. Do you know? I do feel because she's young, she's very young, and he's the young and dumb, 11 years older than me, and she's younger than me. Um, so she's a little immature, and I think she'll put up with him. She'll handle, she'll deal with that. I don't want to deal with that. I don't want to waste my time. I'm about to be 34. I want to get married, I want to be a mom, I want to have kids, I want to find a guy that like will just show me that I am the only girl and that he's loyal and respectful and um wouldn't make me feel this way and wouldn't go to sleep peacefully knowing that I feel this way and I'm having a panic attack on the ground, which he said was for attention. That's not my husband. Like, no way. And she she can waste all her time that she wants, but this guy, just because he looks good, but he's not nice, he's not a nice guy. He's rates his voice at me way too many times.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

You know what cracks me up is so he's 11 years older than you. So he's 45, almost 50 years old, still behaving like this. Like that is pathetic. Still treating women this way, almost 50 years old. I know.

SPEAKER_03 18:10

Have you looked him up on the Are We Dating the Same Guy page? No. I bet he's on that.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

Oh, I'm sure he is.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Wait, that's so funny. We'll look him up after we wrap. I love that. We should. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Oh, I'm sure he has a reputation for sure.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

I wonder if um So he had does he have kids? He does have uh one kid who's 22.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

I wonder if his if he's with his gonna get back with his ex-wife. Did you say he did file finally?

SPEAKER_01 18:34

He did, but she she got a restraining order, so we can't even go to the house and get all of his stuff without you know him getting a return.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Sounds like nobody got time for that. You can do so much better.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

So much less drama to save money, he's probably going back to her. He's over he's uh like this weekend, he texted me saying he was going on that side of town. It's like an hour away. So I and he hasn't come home in two nights. And I went camping last night, but I'm sure like when he first moved in, he was never home on the weekends. He's off Saturday, Sunday, Monday. He was never home. And I didn't care because at the time I was doing my own thing too. I had no feelings, I wasn't attached. And now, like, now since we got into this argument, he's like, I'm gonna go do whatever I want now.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

And I go, Okay. And I'm still trying to be like, hey, I'm still here for you as like a friend, I still care about you. Like, and he he goes back to what's familiar and easy and comfortable, and yeah, but knowing he's never shut that off in two months, as I'm just like, Wow, this is why you I don't trust people. Yeah, but he was saying, My man wouldn't do that, you know, don't worry about me on my phone, just be like, My man, my man wouldn't do that and act that way. And I'm like, I don't even know you, yeah, I just met you. Yeah, you're showing me this whole side.

SPEAKER_03 19:51

Yeah, you know, so what have you what have you learned from him? Or

Red Flags Love Bombing And Control

SPEAKER_03 19:55

like looking back, what did you ignore in the beginning? Because there had to have been some signs in the beginning, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:01

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. I mean, he was definitely moody, like I could see that in his face, and like I just kind of shut it off when I'm trying to be like happy and just kind of like myself. So um definitely that I think I think he hid it a lot. Yeah, he just was hiding a lot and trying to be like on his best behavior with me. Because he would always try to sway me and like I feel like love bombing too is a red flag when a guy comes onto you that strong, that quick, that fast. I did think I was like, is this a love bomb thing? He's like, I think this is a real connection, like this is super real, and I'm like obsessed with you, and I'm so lucky to be with you. And I'm like, This is a lot, yeah, especially when he told me he liked me, and I was like, You don't even know me. Like, I wasn't even home enough for you to know me.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

I feel like in my past, every guy that did that, it never worked out. They were players. I found out they had someone else 100% of the time.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Always freaking crazy. Yeah, there's always someone else.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

So your dancer, and you says you're a barber. Is that what you do by for work?

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Yes, at um Lifetime Fitness in North Scottsale.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

You do men's hair?

SPEAKER_01 21:10

I do men, and I do uh woman's color and cuts and all that too. Oh, which lifetime in North Scottsale, off Chauncey and uh Mayo.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Yeah. That's cool. Um yeah. Do you get a lot of male clients hitting on you? I bet you do.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Um, so I've been doing hair for like 15 years and strictly men for like seven years, and a lot of them have asked me on a date, especially out here. And yeah, I'll go, but um the main thing is kids. So like some of them are 48, already had their kids. You know, so I'm always dating older because like I don't know, I just my parents are like eleven and a half years apart. So I've always followed that. Um Yeah. Do you want kids? I do want kids. Do you want kids? Yeah. So that's the thing nowadays. Some guys are, you know, like Snipped or like they don't want kids or they already have you know they already have their kids. So it's hard to find that out here. But I don't what's your physical type? Is it the Guido? Is it the typical Jersey tall, dark, and handsome Italian? Yes. But um yeah, I love like I've always loved beards, tall, like a guy that goes to the gym, please. Like I'm at the gym every day. I work at a gym. So that's important to me. Um yeah, so pretty much like tall or because I'm five one and a half, so everyone's gonna be taller than me. But I've always liked six foot and up, yeah. So at least, you know.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

But do you have any disaster date

Dating Preferences Work And Awkward Endings

SPEAKER_02 22:40

stories or terrible date stories from Old Town, from Scottsdown?

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Um I don't think here that I have one, but I can think of one in Jersey. It was terrible. Tell us. Um, my dad tried to set me up with his friend's son, and it was a blind date. I had no idea what he looked like. And he showed up, and he's Italian, but he's also like five, four, maybe. Um, and he was like, like, no offense, but like that was like really short. And then he shows up with flowers, and I thought that was nice, but I don't like when guys do that because I'm like, okay, like I don't even know you yet. Like, let's wait a little bit, you know, because then I wanted to feel like special. So anyway, he we go on a date and it was okay, right? And then our second date, we went hiking, and he took me hiking, and it was kind of cold, right? Because it was the winter, and we ended up getting lost, and I was already like miserable because we had no connection and we weren't really getting along, and then we were stuck and lost in this these woods, and I'm like, and then I slipped on ice. Oh no, and I was like, is there even good hiking in Jersey? Like, no, um, I guess upstate if you could drive up there, yeah. Okay, but not much, not like here, yeah, you know, but yeah, I slipped on ice and I just like started crying because I'm like, I'm lost and I'm miserable and I'm cold and I'm wet and I'm hungry. And I was like, Oh, that sounds awful. This is terrible. And I came back and I mean we got food and it was super awkward after, and I never saw him again or talked to him again. And I was like, thanks, sad. Thanks so much for that. But have you ever walked out mid-date? Um, no, no, I've always felt bad for doing that. I've wanted to for sure, but then it just gets so awkward. That's why I don't like dating really nowadays. I'm like, take me camping or like take me camping?

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Would you go camping on a first date? Um that kind of creepy.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Well, not on like a first, like I would do coffee dating. You know what I mean? But don't I don't need to go to like a fancy restaurant, super, super fancy. Like, I don't need that. Like eventually, like, sure, treat me for my birthday. But um, I just think sometimes if there's no connection, it's very awkward.

SPEAKER_03 24:54

Yeah, I feel like it would be hard in your situation to date guys that ask you out at work because then if it doesn't go well, you have to see them again. Yeah, that's true. Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

That's happened though before many times, and like my guys, and I'm so professional, right? Because like I went on like a date, two dates with a guy, um, and then he just isn't really like my physical type, but he was really nice, you know, and like just was like a like bigger, and I'm like, okay, um, personality, right? Personality. And so then I tried, you know, but then I think the silence, I don't really I'm not comfortable and I'm weird about being like, hey, I'm not really interested in this. So I just I just allow the space and the silence for everyone to figure it out, which is like I that's not the way to do it. I don't think that's the way to do it. I think it's a very rude way, and like I kind of regret that. But they still come to me, yes, to get their haircut. Yeah, and they just keep it normal and they're like, how's your life? You know, it looks awesome. And I fill them in.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

Do you have to be a member at Lifetime to use the barber shop or no?

SPEAKER_01 26:01

You can sign in at the desk and then you're able to use like the whole facility for the day, which is because I was gonna say dating your clients, at least you know they have money, because isn't it like $400 a month at Lifetime? Yeah, it's well, it's like $250, and then it's like $350 in other locations too. So it's pretty pretty.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

You get free membership working there, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:18

I do. Oh, yeah. I get to work out, shower, go to work. I can do the cold plunge. It's a nice gym. It's so nice, and everyone's super cool there. I like it. Are you ready for it?

Would You Rather Food Or Sex

SPEAKER_03 26:28

Fun. I'm ready for it. The keep more minute brought to you by Tactical Tax Strategies. They help you keep more in your wallet. We help you keep more in your relationship. We have a listener question. And it's short and sweet. It's a would you rather? Would you rather have amazing sex for the rest of your life? But every time you eat food, it's nasty or have amazing food for the rest of your life, but every time you have sex, it's trash.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

I'm a foodie, so I gotta go with the food. I'd rather have amazing food. You know, that's a question, huh? Because I feel like does your sexual appetite change as you get older? Like, I think I'd rather have the sex.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

Really? Because because you can just eat chicken and rice and live a literally a long life.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

But you can like do things yourself. The sex with your partner is uh.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

So you I don't want to only be able to have sex with myself. And it says every time you have sex is trash. That's I don't know. I think I'm choosing the sex.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Yeah, I think me too. I mean, I can cook my own good food.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Like, oh, that's funny. So I want to talk about the 50-50 debate.

Who Pays On The First Date

SPEAKER_02 27:47

So, should men still pay on the first date? I guess this is like a huge controversy now because a lot of people are saying it's not like they shouldn't be like that anymore. Dating expectations have changed, but who pays can still carry meaning around manners, romance, gender roles, and money. Do you think the man should still pay?

SPEAKER_03 28:03

I do. If the man invited you out on the date, I think the man should pay.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

But if the woman initiates the date, do you think the woman should pay?

SPEAKER_03 28:10

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

You think so? Sure.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

So if you have you ever asked the guy? Never, and I never will. This will never be, this will never be a problem for me. But if if you are a woman who pursues men and or or pursues women, you know, I think if if as a woman whoever asks, yeah, I think whoever feels for the date.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

I do, I feel like the man should pay. If it's the beginning, absolutely, because that's just setting the you know the vibe.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

I I kind of agree with you. I do. Yeah. And like if I was a man, I'd be so mortified and embarrassed to let the woman pay. It's cringe, kind of, right? Yeah. Even if the woman did ask, I feel the first date. Like once you get into a relationship, okay, you know, it can change. But I think initially, if you're trying to impress the woman and land her, I think it's the gentlemanly thing to do, you know? Yeah. But yeah, said here it says, so if someone suggests spinning the bill, is that a red flag or perfectly reasonable? I think I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

Red flag. I think so. Yeah. I think if the man invited the date, if the man is the one that initiated the invite, and then he asks to split the bill at the end of the date, that's a red flag for sure. But if the woman initiates the date and the man is like, hey, I'll pick up the checker. Why don't why don't we split it? Like I appreciate you offering to take me out and pick up the check, but let's split it, then I don't think it's as big of a deal. But I think yeah.

Celebrity Cut Cancellations And Bad Advice

SPEAKER_02 29:38

So now it's time for the celebrity cut where we marinate in the juices of the celebrities. Did you guys hear about the Kia Buckley? So Kia Buckley, she owns Kikiva. It's like an Australian, she's Australian. She's 24 years old. She started an activewear brand. It's kind of like the Australian Lululemon. Or what does Kim Kardashian own? Which one's her? Kim's. No, the other activewear that not Kim Kardashian, sorry, Chloe Kardashian. She's not American.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

She does jeans. Those are like jeans, though.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

No, or she's Fabletics. I think she does advertising for Fabletics. She's in advertising. Anyways, it's the Australian version of that, started by a 24-year-old Kia Buckley. She does lives. She was doing a live, putting her makeup on, and her sister walked in and says, What's up? N-word. Didn't know that her sister was doing a live. Came in, hey, what's up? N-word. And so this girl's like, Hey, I'm doing a live, I'm doing a live. She continues to do her makeup. And then she's seeing the comments just blow up. And she's like, no, she didn't say that word. She said, What's up, sissies? She said, What's up, sissies? Which is very different than the word. And I guess she's like canceled now. It like blew up. No way.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

And um, people are furious that she tried to cover it up, that she wasn't taking accountability, responsibility, was covering for her sister. But yeah, like everyone is like cut off all ties with her. Like freaking, what a like who does that? Like crazy to me. You didn't see that video.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Mm-mm. That's crazy.

unknown 31:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

No, but I think, I think, like, that's that's what happens.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

Yeah, but it's very, very wrong when it's for anyone to casually use that word, it's like unacceptable.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

I feel like that's the consequences to that.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

I I agree, completely agree, but like, how much would she hate her sister right now?

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

And her sister has cost her her entire company, I feel.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Yeah, very bad. Um, so I also wanted to discuss. Did you see um I read an article about Ben Affleck, um, how Bruce Willis and him starred in Armageddon? And how I guess Bruce Willis told him not to do Shakespeare and Love. Did you ever see Shakespeare and Love?

SPEAKER_03 31:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:42

I love that movie. Did you ever see it with Gwyn Paltrow?

SPEAKER_03 31:45

Anyways, he was like in like the early 2000s or late 90s, was it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

I enjoyed that movie, but I guess Bruce Willis advised him, you do not do this movie, it's gonna f up your career. But I guess it won a bunch of Academy Awards. And then Bruce Willis also told him to, he's like, Why do you speak so high? Why is your voice so high? You've got to work on your voice and make it not so high-pitched. Anywho, that's funny.

Apps Dancing Boundaries And Closing

SPEAKER_02 32:08

So what what is what you said your first date, you prefer to do coffee or something quick?

SPEAKER_01 32:13

Yeah, I think um like coffee or something, get to know them. Do you date on the apps? I do not. No. No, I don't like to do that. No, no. Because I'm always like, I can meet someone like at the gym, or I can I don't want to meet somebody at a bar. Although I am going on a date tonight and I met somebody at Denim and Diamonds. Oh, but he's a dancer, so like we just were dancing.

SPEAKER_03 32:35

Is that a red flag for you to date a dancer? Or do you like dating? Because because you had a yeah, I relationship.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Like coming back here, I was like, I'm not gonna date a dancer, but then immediately I'm like, those are my friends, you know? Like that's where you build connection. And I the last guy I was talking to for the last two months, um, he wasn't a dancer, so I was never going out dancing, you know, it's because he didn't want me to. So it's easier to have that in common because it's such a passion for me.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

Yeah, you know, so I think that's kind of a red flag that he didn't want you going out dancing. Why would you deprive your significant other of their passion, you know, and their hobby? That's crazy. He should have like and encouraged you, you know? It's just insecure, you know.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

I think that spoke that was so loud in our relationship, like insecurities. But now we know why, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Now we know why. Thank you so much for joining us this week at the meat market, and thank you so much, Camille. And thank you to our sponsor, Tactical Tax Strategies. If you want to preserve your wealth and keep more of your own money in your wallet where it belongs, you need to go to Tactical Tax Strategies. We'll see you next week at the Meat Market.